<!--quoteo(post=1692389:date=Nov 4 2008, 09:59 PM:name=Retales)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Retales @ Nov 4 2008, 09:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692389"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also a question. Is there any sense in playing a stealth character? Like, are you actually able to sneak around effectively, gain advantage, get past enemies and such?
I'll get the game next week, and I'm planning a character beforehand. Although I play a sneak character whenever possible.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is stealthboys for ultra stealth or replacement for crappy sneak characters but otherwise I wouldn't rely on it much, maybe if you approach a area with obvious patrols or something you could sneak by and not waste as much ammo. IIRC, once you have been detected (long or short range) they pretty much have you in their sights til you kill em.
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<!--quoteo(post=1692394:date=Nov 4 2008, 08:53 PM:name=locallyunscene)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Nov 4 2008, 08:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692394"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've been sneaking with limited success. It's okay for pickpocketing frienedlies(at the cost of Karma), but you can't avoid something by sneaking around it generally like you could in Oblivion. However my sneak is only ~50 and I haven't figured out how to turn off my pipboy which supposedly makes sneaking less impossible.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1692400:date=Nov 4 2008, 11:31 PM:name=locallyunscene)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Nov 4 2008, 11:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692400"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Turn off the whole thing. I caught a glimpse of it in one of the loading screens.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Surely you mean flashlight, maybe even radio but that would be silly. Entire thing can't be shut off. The only tip I've seen pointed to the light.
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Secret to Having Fun: Don't be supremely evil.
When you go and decimate every quest hub you come across...well, its hard to have fun. I've now started anew, and am focusing on talkin' my way out of problems, being a good person, and when those 2 fail, pistol executions.
If you're playing the 360 version hold the b button to toggle the pipboy light.
Not to mention that when sneaking and first successful shot will always be a critical. Resulting in massive damage or possible instantaneous death for the target. On top of that even if discovered if you're in a ranged firefight crouching/sneaking helps improve your aim. Another thing about sneaking is your party members will always open fire on enemies that they deem too close for comfort.
I am like two seconds away from cranking the combat up to hard, since I got Clover and gave her an assualt rifle I haven't gotten into a tight spot yet. Not against the muties or the regulators.
I think my sneak is at 70 right now. I have twelve stealthboys that are not being used =P
You can avoid a firefight if detected. Just run like hell. Trust me, I've ran away from raiders and super muties the like. Eventually they run outta breath or get bored, whatever the reason they stop chasing.
On another note... I think I've found all the party characters or at least three of them so far. Clover at Paradise Falls, Jericho in Megaton and this ghoul dude who's name I forgot in the Underworld bar. It also seems that you don't have to give your party member any sort of medical aid. They tend to automatically heal.
I never bothered to before, but I just found out that it is impossible to target a child to kill. HOWEVER, I might just mini-nuke one of them to be sure.
Sadly I just found out that untreated radiation doesn't really have an impact outside of lowering your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. and possibly your skills. I was kinda hoping to grow a third arm like in the slide show.
Bug report!!!! While playing the quest Reilly's Rangers I had clover as a party member and while trying to enter the tunnels to get back to the ranger command center I found that the silly ###### won't follow me. I tried like four or five times going in and out of the area. She just won't follow. Which begs the question, if I go through the entire tunnel system will she magically pop up on the other side waiting? Will she stay where she is? Or will her ###### take the long way around and get shot to death by muties?
I use stealth mainly because it tells me when my ass is about to get shot off. And I was going to party with Jericho when I got back in town, only to find him dead and floating in the irradiated water that crazy Church of Atom guy raves in. Not sure what went down there...
<!--quoteo(post=1692499:date=Nov 5 2008, 04:03 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Align @ Nov 5 2008, 04:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692499"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sure you can. Press analog stick, don't remember if it was L or R. Useless ability anyway...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
After missing two function keys I feel I need to explore my xbox pad a tad better.
Kay, so 52 hours in and I've exhausted all quest options except the main quest. Being as I want to experience the full game and not just part of it I am avoiding it.
Luckily I just reached lvl 20 and got the explorer perk, so more than likely there are some quests I may find out in the wastes before I go back on the main campaign.
Clover, my party member, died and Jericho dissapeared from Megaton. I ran into a robot dealer who's robot didn't like the fact that I was evil incarnate and wouldn't sell me his Mr. Gusty. I did however pick up dogmeat.
BUG!!!!! Underworld, there's this guy who asks you to kill someone in order to get the contract of a ghoul merc. I did as he asked and what happens? I don't get crap! I don't even get the option to buy the contract anymore. So this party member is just sitting there forever...
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I was good incarnate and that stupid robot didn't like me either. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":angry:" border="0" alt="mad-fix.gif" />
<!--quoteo(post=1692917:date=Nov 8 2008, 08:36 PM:name=NeonSpyder)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NeonSpyder @ Nov 8 2008, 08:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692917"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I was good incarnate and that stupid robot didn't like me either. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":angry:" border="0" alt="mad-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> You have to maintain a neutral karma, or at least that's what this Wiki says: <a href="http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sergeant_RL-3" target="_blank">http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sergeant_RL-3</a>
Anyhoo, I just completed it now and the only thing I have to say is... what? <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Oh hi Falwkes, remember how you're completely immune to radiation and still owe me for rescuing you? yeah? well could you go press the button for me in that irradiated room for me because it'd kill me? "oh no, I wouldn't want to deny you your destiny."</span>
What were they smoking when they came up with that? o.O
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<!--quoteo(post=1694280:date=Nov 24 2008, 08:21 PM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Nov 24 2008, 08:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694280"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->WISE FWOM YOU GWAVE!!!!
Anyhoo, I just completed it now and the only thing I have to say is... what? <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Oh hi Falwkes, remember how you're completely immune to radiation and still owe me for rescuing you? yeah? well could you go press the button for me in that irradiated room for me because it'd kill me? "oh no, I wouldn't want to deny you your destiny."</span>
What were they smoking when they came up with that? o.O<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yup, that ticked me off to no end.
<!--quoteo(post=1692231:date=Nov 3 2008, 07:26 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Nov 3 2008, 07:26 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692231"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I updated my drivers and all it did was break Audiosurf. T_T<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> My driver update broke Audiosurf too! There's an unofficial fix though.
I just love Fallout 3. I have been playing somewhat much since I got it, but damn school stuff keeps getting in the way. [Insert all sorts of praise here].
Some odd stuff I've encountered, though: The Sheriff of Megaton disappeared <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I refused to blow the town up and went to warn the sheriff, who then went to confront mr Burke. I shot the weapon from his hand as he was going to shoot the sheriff in the back, confiscated the weapon and then yielded. Nobody died. Haven't seen the Sheriff since then, though. And mr Burke showed up in a completely random location (Andale I think it was) to threaten me.</span>
Also another side-quest character disappeared, or actually wasn't there in the first place: <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I found a recording that led me to recover The Naughty Nightwear and deliver it to some dude in some place. I got to the place and his house was empty. The other inhabitant of the place talked about and praised him, but he was nowhere to be found.</span> Maybe it's like in Oblivion, where an important character wanders off into the wilderness and gets killed by an evil mountain lion, or something?
Also, my stealth character works pretty much as well as I thought it would. I have my sneak at 100 (+ a little from equipment, if it's possible to raise it above 100) and it works very well during the night and indoors in dark places. Super Mutants seem to be blind as bats, anyway. Sneak attack with a sniper rifle outdoors or an altogether stealthy approach with a super sledge indoors gives an advantage. Also making piles of mines in good spots for when the ###### eventually hits the fan can save you from a lot of pain.
<!--quoteo(post=1694280:date=Nov 25 2008, 01:21 AM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Nov 25 2008, 01:21 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694280"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Anyhoo, I just completed it now and the only thing I have to say is... what? <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Oh hi Falwkes, remember how you're completely immune to radiation</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I thought it was <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>like super hot in there</span>.
Still running around doing side quests, not even touched tenpenny area yet. Who doesn't empty megaton of quests BEFORE detonation? I also hate long range combat against mutants, they are big, healthy and apparently perceptive as hell. Their miniguns and whatnot hurts me plenty at rather long distances, while I get a 25% chance on heads with snipers and scooped magnums. My primary skill is even small arms with aim enhancing perks. Torso shots are so dull and a ammo sinker. I'm also constantly encumbered, I have like 15 weapons in my inventory as using one constantly either makes it run out of ammo or wears it down to ######ty damage. It must suck to have a very bad repair skill.
Early in the game I saw a group of BoS with lazers and stuff get pwnd by a bunch of super muties (weak sort) with hunting rifles, wat. They really made powerarmor ######ty and forcing you to get "powerarmor training" before you can use one even.
<!--quoteo(post=1694345:date=Nov 25 2008, 09:17 AM:name=Retales)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Retales @ Nov 25 2008, 09:17 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694345"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Sheriff of Megaton disappeared <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I refused to blow the town up and went to warn the sheriff, who then went to confront mr Burke. I shot the weapon from his hand as he was going to shoot the sheriff in the back, confiscated the weapon and then yielded. Nobody died. Haven't seen the Sheriff since then, though. And mr Burke showed up in a completely random location (Andale I think it was) to threaten me.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think he's programmed to die no matter what if you take that route. I tried to stop it from happening too. Guess you just can't have it both ways, turning the guy in and disarming it yourself.
Anyone else noticed middle-distance shots missing when they shouldn't while not using VATS? I suspect there's a % chance to hit even in normal combat, affected by distance.
<!--quoteo(post=1694363:date=Nov 25 2008, 05:29 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Align @ Nov 25 2008, 05:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694363"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I thought it was <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>like super hot in there</span>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>It can't have been that hot. I was calmly punching the numbers into the console while slurping on Radaway and up to my eyeballs on Rad-X and I wasn't exactly in major rad trouble. Heck, to be honest, if it wasn't a cut scene I wouldn't have even actually been close to dying and could have calmly walked out withoout difficulty <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> </span>
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1694393:date=Nov 25 2008, 07:45 PM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Nov 25 2008, 07:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694393"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>It can't have been that hot. I was calmly punching the numbers into the console while slurping on Radaway and up to my eyeballs on Rad-X and I wasn't exactly in major rad trouble. Heck, to be honest, if it wasn't a cut scene I wouldn't have even actually been close to dying and could have calmly walked out withoout difficulty <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> </span>
rowr!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> yah. that got me also
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I had enough radawy and rad-x left for them to have EASILY cycled the door lock for me, and let me out with 0 radiation. The ending is a serious cop out in my mind, it is forcing your character into a stupid situation that there ARE solutions to.</span>
<!--quoteo(post=1694394:date=Nov 25 2008, 11:57 PM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Nov 25 2008, 11:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1694394"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->yah. that got me also
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I had enough radawy and rad-x left for them to have EASILY cycled the door lock for me, and let me out with 0 radiation. The ending is a serious cop out in my mind, it is forcing your character into a stupid situation that there ARE solutions to.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fable II spoiler in comment: <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>yeah but like Fable II did much the same. I mean, did the weird 'hero circle' (which didn't appear to do anything as far as I can tell) stop me moving? If so I still had my gun and stuff on me. I didn't get it. I don't get what the hero circle achieved apart from some pretty effects and I don't see why I stood by and let the bad guy shoot my dog and then me. I mean honestly! Why do so many of these 'choice' games always boil down to such 'handicapped' endings which don't make much sense in the context of the game?</span>
Also my choice <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>to use the FEV virus was apparently evil. I guess not all ghouls and one super mutant weren't evil. But all of the other super mutants I encountered wanted to kill me, cut me open, rape my organs, suck my eyes from my skull, decorate their abodes with my intestines, wear my skin and put all my severed limbs and torso in a gore bag. I could see how humanity could do without a group of people with a tendency to do that. But apparently it's racist to exterminate a whole "race", no matter what.</span>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Think about it. The anti-FEV kills anyone who isn't a 'pure' human. That basically means anyone who wasn't a vault dweller as everyone else has been exposed to radiation and possibly even small does of the FEV over generations :3 </span>
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I'll get the game next week, and I'm planning a character beforehand. Although I play a sneak character whenever possible.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is stealthboys for ultra stealth or replacement for crappy sneak characters but otherwise I wouldn't rely on it much, maybe if you approach a area with obvious patrols or something you could sneak by and not waste as much ammo. IIRC, once you have been detected (long or short range) they pretty much have you in their sights til you kill em.
Turn what off? Radio? Light?
Surely you mean flashlight, maybe even radio but that would be silly. Entire thing can't be shut off. The only tip I've seen pointed to the light.
When you go and decimate every quest hub you come across...well, its hard to have fun. I've now started anew, and am focusing on talkin' my way out of problems, being a good person, and when those 2 fail, pistol executions.
Not to mention that when sneaking and first successful shot will always be a critical. Resulting in massive damage or possible instantaneous death for the target. On top of that even if discovered if you're in a ranged firefight crouching/sneaking helps improve your aim. Another thing about sneaking is your party members will always open fire on enemies that they deem too close for comfort.
I am like two seconds away from cranking the combat up to hard, since I got Clover and gave her an assualt rifle I haven't gotten into a tight spot yet. Not against the muties or the regulators.
I think my sneak is at 70 right now. I have twelve stealthboys that are not being used =P
You can avoid a firefight if detected. Just run like hell. Trust me, I've ran away from raiders and super muties the like. Eventually they run outta breath or get bored, whatever the reason they stop chasing.
On another note... I think I've found all the party characters or at least three of them so far. Clover at Paradise Falls, Jericho in Megaton and this ghoul dude who's name I forgot in the Underworld bar. It also seems that you don't have to give your party member any sort of medical aid. They tend to automatically heal.
I never bothered to before, but I just found out that it is impossible to target a child to kill. HOWEVER, I might just mini-nuke one of them to be sure.
Sadly I just found out that untreated radiation doesn't really have an impact outside of lowering your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. and possibly your skills. I was kinda hoping to grow a third arm like in the slide show.
Bug report!!!! While playing the quest Reilly's Rangers I had clover as a party member and while trying to enter the tunnels to get back to the ranger command center I found that the silly ###### won't follow me. I tried like four or five times going in and out of the area. She just won't follow. Which begs the question, if I go through the entire tunnel system will she magically pop up on the other side waiting? Will she stay where she is? Or will her ###### take the long way around and get shot to death by muties?
This guy explained it quite nicely:
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Hacking spreadsheet that might help:
<a href="http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=82" target="_blank">http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=82</a>
Check out this user's other fallout 3 vids. They're just as awesome heh.
After missing two function keys I feel I need to explore my xbox pad a tad better.
Luckily I just reached lvl 20 and got the explorer perk, so more than likely there are some quests I may find out in the wastes before I go back on the main campaign.
Clover, my party member, died and Jericho dissapeared from Megaton. I ran into a robot dealer who's robot didn't like the fact that I was evil incarnate and wouldn't sell me his Mr. Gusty. I did however pick up dogmeat.
BUG!!!!! Underworld, there's this guy who asks you to kill someone in order to get the contract of a ghoul merc. I did as he asked and what happens? I don't get crap! I don't even get the option to buy the contract anymore. So this party member is just sitting there forever...
You have to maintain a neutral karma, or at least that's what this Wiki says:
<a href="http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sergeant_RL-3" target="_blank">http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sergeant_RL-3</a>
Anyhoo, I just completed it now and the only thing I have to say is... what?
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Oh hi Falwkes, remember how you're completely immune to radiation and still owe me for rescuing you? yeah? well could you go press the button for me in that irradiated room for me because it'd kill me?
"oh no, I wouldn't want to deny you your destiny."</span>
What were they smoking when they came up with that? o.O
Anyhoo, I just completed it now and the only thing I have to say is... what?
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Oh hi Falwkes, remember how you're completely immune to radiation and still owe me for rescuing you? yeah? well could you go press the button for me in that irradiated room for me because it'd kill me?
"oh no, I wouldn't want to deny you your destiny."</span>
What were they smoking when they came up with that? o.O<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yup, that ticked me off to no end.
My driver update broke Audiosurf too! There's an unofficial fix though.
[Insert all sorts of praise here].
Some odd stuff I've encountered, though:
The Sheriff of Megaton disappeared
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I refused to blow the town up and went to warn the sheriff, who then went to confront mr Burke. I shot the weapon from his hand as he was going to shoot the sheriff in the back, confiscated the weapon and then yielded. Nobody died. Haven't seen the Sheriff since then, though. And mr Burke showed up in a completely random location (Andale I think it was) to threaten me.</span>
Also another side-quest character disappeared, or actually wasn't there in the first place:
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I found a recording that led me to recover The Naughty Nightwear and deliver it to some dude in some place. I got to the place and his house was empty. The other inhabitant of the place talked about and praised him, but he was nowhere to be found.</span> Maybe it's like in Oblivion, where an important character wanders off into the wilderness and gets killed by an evil mountain lion, or something?
Also, my stealth character works pretty much as well as I thought it would. I have my sneak at 100 (+ a little from equipment, if it's possible to raise it above 100) and it works very well during the night and indoors in dark places. Super Mutants seem to be blind as bats, anyway. Sneak attack with a sniper rifle outdoors or an altogether stealthy approach with a super sledge indoors gives an advantage. Also making piles of mines in good spots for when the ###### eventually hits the fan can save you from a lot of pain.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Oh hi Falwkes, remember how you're completely immune to radiation</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I thought it was <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>like super hot in there</span>.
Early in the game I saw a group of BoS with lazers and stuff get pwnd by a bunch of super muties (weak sort) with hunting rifles, wat. They really made powerarmor ######ty and forcing you to get "powerarmor training" before you can use one even.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I refused to blow the town up and went to warn the sheriff, who then went to confront mr Burke. I shot the weapon from his hand as he was going to shoot the sheriff in the back, confiscated the weapon and then yielded. Nobody died. Haven't seen the Sheriff since then, though. And mr Burke showed up in a completely random location (Andale I think it was) to threaten me.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think he's programmed to die no matter what if you take that route. I tried to stop it from happening too. Guess you just can't have it both ways, turning the guy in and disarming it yourself.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>It can't have been that hot. I was calmly punching the numbers into the console while slurping on Radaway and up to my eyeballs on Rad-X and I wasn't exactly in major rad trouble. Heck, to be honest, if it wasn't a cut scene I wouldn't have even actually been close to dying and could have calmly walked out withoout difficulty <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> </span>
rowr!
rowr!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yah. that got me also
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I had enough radawy and rad-x left for them to have EASILY cycled the door lock for me, and let me out with 0 radiation. The ending is a serious cop out in my mind, it is forcing your character into a stupid situation that there ARE solutions to.</span>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I had enough radawy and rad-x left for them to have EASILY cycled the door lock for me, and let me out with 0 radiation. The ending is a serious cop out in my mind, it is forcing your character into a stupid situation that there ARE solutions to.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fable II spoiler in comment: <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>yeah but like Fable II did much the same. I mean, did the weird 'hero circle' (which didn't appear to do anything as far as I can tell) stop me moving? If so I still had my gun and stuff on me. I didn't get it. I don't get what the hero circle achieved apart from some pretty effects and I don't see why I stood by and let the bad guy shoot my dog and then me. I mean honestly! Why do so many of these 'choice' games always boil down to such 'handicapped' endings which don't make much sense in the context of the game?</span>
:/
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Stupid Fawkes.</span>
Also my choice <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>to use the FEV virus was apparently evil. I guess not all ghouls and one super mutant weren't evil. But all of the other super mutants I encountered wanted to kill me, cut me open, rape my organs, suck my eyes from my skull, decorate their abodes with my intestines, wear my skin and put all my severed limbs and torso in a gore bag. I could see how humanity could do without a group of people with a tendency to do that. But apparently it's racist to exterminate a whole "race", no matter what.</span>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Think about it. The anti-FEV kills anyone who isn't a 'pure' human. That basically means anyone who wasn't a vault dweller as everyone else has been exposed to radiation and possibly even small does of the FEV over generations :3 </span>