locallyunsceneFeeder of TrollsJoin Date: 2002-12-25Member: 11528Members, Constellation
edited January 2008
From that ss it looks like a distinct artstyle. The outdoor leafy environments add a lot more than I would have thought. I guess it's just the concept art that looks like TF2 to me.
Looks like a really cool and fun game. I'd agree that they look as though they'd walk awkward - the stiff back with an upright posture gives that away. Hopefully they change it so that the motions look a bit more natural.
The art style seems blockier than TF2, which looks to focus more on fluidity and heavy caricature. They're both as different as two different cartoon styles can get in a video game.
<!--quoteo(post=1668659:date=Jan 28 2008, 08:13 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Jan 28 2008, 08:13 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1668659"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Unsubstantiated rumours are that EA closed their UK Chertsey office to outsource their QA to Romania where they'll only have to pay testers £1/hour instead of £7/hour. That's at least one reason from a moral standpoint to not play this game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey man, not cool. Some of my best friends are Romanian. What do you have against Romania? Are you saying they don't know how to work computers or something? Or that British people are better than Romanians? Does Britain deserve more money than Romania?
LikuI, am the Somberlain.Join Date: 2003-01-10Member: 12128Members
<!--quoteo(post=1669247:date=Feb 1 2008, 03:10 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 1 2008, 03:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669247"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Some of my best friends are Romanian.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thanks for the insight.
The characters seem dead, that doesn't go with the cartoon setting. It's still going to be free so it's all good.
<!--quoteo(post=1669247:date=Feb 1 2008, 09:10 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 1 2008, 09:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669247"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hey man, not cool. Some of my best friends are Romanian. What do you have against Romania? Are you saying they don't know how to work computers or something? Or that British people are better than Romanians? Does Britain deserve more money than Romania?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I'm sorry if that came across as bigoted, it's because I failed to include one important piece of information: that (allegedly, from the grapevine) the closure of EA was not announced in advance to the employees who lost their jobs, nor was the real reason (that they were outsourcing for cheaper labour costs) made clear.
I'm saying that closing an ENTIRE office of people without saying why, and then those employees later finding out why it was, is a horrible way to treat your employees. If a company really wanted to outsource, it could at least announce the timetable to the employees in advance so they have time to secure new employment in time for the closure, so they don't spend money that they don't know they don't have, so they don't make plans they later have to cancel... generally, so they're not treated like human beings, not like expendable business tools.
I don't have anything against Romanians, I have everything against how EA are rumoured to have dealt with the situation. If what I've heard is true, many dedicated employees -who had been given every reason to feel secure in their jobs following consecutive contract renewals and good performance reports- have simply been axed because labour is cheaper in Romania. This makes good business sense, especially when you consider the strength of the pound versus the Euro and the higher cost of living and property prices in the UK, but it doesn't do much in terms of damage limitation on the <a href="http://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/" target="_blank">already</a> <a href="http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48482" target="_blank">tarnished</a> name that is Electronic Arts.
<!--quoteo(post=1669257:date=Feb 1 2008, 05:03 PM:name=Haze)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Haze @ Feb 1 2008, 05:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669257"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yay, the spouse article gave me a super real reason to hate EA now. <3<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Except that they fixed all that stuff. Unless you think that they'd purposefully leave themselves open to another $14.9 million lawsuit.
<!--quoteo(post=1669370:date=Feb 2 2008, 05:54 PM:name=sherpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sherpa @ Feb 2 2008, 05:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669370"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ok so:
BF2 = BF1 with M4 carbines
BF2142 = BF2 with blue muzzle flash
BFH = BF2 with cell shading & simple textures
All these rehashed games getting announced, developed and released before we see any NS2 in-game media is an e-injustice.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I hope that was a joke.
BF1942: Revolutionary WW2 multiplayer game. BF: Vietnam: Quick, cheap sequel to BF1942 set in Vietnam. BF2: Revolutionary innovation for the franchise set slightly in the future, way different than BF1942 and BF:V. BF2142: Quick, cheap sequel to BF2 set in teh futoor. BFH: Completely new, different casual game with new graphics, gameplay, objectives, and price.
MonkfishSonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed!Join Date: 2003-06-03Member: 16972Members
I find 2142 more fun that BF2 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
2142 is alright.... the vehicles are are so dumbed down though. The airplane thing takes no skill to fly, it's worse then the banshee in halo. And who's idea was it to make the support machine-gun become MORE accurate as it fires?
Really, I basically quit playing the game normally and just used knife + cloaking device. Guns are for ######.
ShockehIf a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it...Join Date: 2002-11-19Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1669379:date=Feb 3 2008, 01:45 AM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Feb 3 2008, 01:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669379"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've played both to death and I must agree.
For all the crap that EA cop, they can churn out a decent game. 2142 was a lot of fun and balanced twitch and tactics very well.
--Scythe--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That's rather the basis of the problem. "By your third or fourth purchase from us, we'll have made this game actually good!"
BF2 basically became a giant beta on how to do BF2142.
<!--quoteo(post=1669372:date=Feb 3 2008, 12:08 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 3 2008, 12:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669372"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I hope that was a joke.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
LikuI, am the Somberlain.Join Date: 2003-01-10Member: 12128Members
<!--quoteo(post=1669372:date=Feb 2 2008, 06:08 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 2 2008, 06:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669372"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->BF: Vietnam: Quick, cheap sequel to BF1942 set in Vietnam.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> More like BF1942: Helicopters, amirite?
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited February 2008
<!--quoteo(post=1669454:date=Feb 4 2008, 02:09 AM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Feb 4 2008, 02:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669454"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->More like BF1942: Helicopters, amirite?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> pfft, FH had a kolibri and DC had a "few" choppers didn't it?
Anyway I just wanted an excuse to post this youtube <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
LikuI, am the Somberlain.Join Date: 2003-01-10Member: 12128Members
<!--quoteo(post=1669467:date=Feb 3 2008, 10:18 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kouji_San @ Feb 3 2008, 10:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669467"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->pfft, FH had a kolibri and DC had a "few" choppers didn't it?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> The last build of DC I played the helicopters were damn near impossible to pilot.
Never really liked the battlefield games. Or any "Realistic" Military shooter for that matter, so I doubt I'll bother with this conveniently-similar-to-TF2 game. Even if it is free, I'd rather play Warsow if I had to play a free game.
<!--quoteo(post=1669554:date=Feb 4 2008, 02:36 PM:name=Wexx)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wexx @ Feb 4 2008, 02:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669554"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Never really liked the battlefield games. Or any "Realistic" Military shooter for that matter, so I doubt I'll bother with this conveniently-similar-to-TF2 game. Even if it is free, I'd rather play Warsow if I had to play a free game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If the world you live in works anything like the Battlefield games, then I'd like to get some of whatever you're smoking.
<!--quoteo(post=1669557:date=Feb 4 2008, 04:46 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 4 2008, 04:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669557"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If the world you live in works anything like the Battlefield games, then I'd like to get some of whatever you're smoking.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
locallyunsceneFeeder of TrollsJoin Date: 2002-12-25Member: 11528Members, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1669560:date=Feb 4 2008, 04:11 PM:name=Haze)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Haze @ Feb 4 2008, 04:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669560"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Didn't he just say battlefield was unrealistic?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Tycho misses quotes ftw.
<!--quoteo(post=1669478:date=Feb 4 2008, 02:21 AM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Feb 4 2008, 02:21 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669478"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The last build of DC I played the helicopters were damn near impossible to pilot.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That's what made it so great. When somebody had mad 'copter skills it was evident and admirable.
<!--quoteo(post=1669560:date=Feb 4 2008, 03:11 PM:name=Haze)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Haze @ Feb 4 2008, 03:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669560"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Didn't he just say battlefield was unrealistic?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He said he never liked the Battlefield series, or, for that matter, <i>any</i> realistic military shooters. So no, he said it was a realistic military shooter.
<!--quoteo(post=1669567:date=Feb 4 2008, 05:46 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 4 2008, 05:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1669567"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->He said he never liked the Battlefield series, or, for that matter, <i>any</i> realistic military shooters. So no, he said it was a realistic military shooter.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I believe what he said was "realistic" rather than realistic - the quotation marks are a subtle difference, but they suggest he knows that, while the genre of games seeks to convey a sense of realism through historical battles and weaponry, it is also understood that these games are by no means accurate, true-to-life war simulators.
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The art style seems blockier than TF2, which looks to focus more on fluidity and heavy caricature. They're both as different as two different cartoon styles can get in a video game.
Hey man, not cool. Some of my best friends are Romanian. What do you have against Romania? Are you saying they don't know how to work computers or something? Or that British people are better than Romanians? Does Britain deserve more money than Romania?
Thanks for the insight.
The characters seem dead, that doesn't go with the cartoon setting. It's still going to be free so it's all good.
I'm saying that closing an ENTIRE office of people without saying why, and then those employees later finding out why it was, is a horrible way to treat your employees. If a company really wanted to outsource, it could at least announce the timetable to the employees in advance so they have time to secure new employment in time for the closure, so they don't spend money that they don't know they don't have, so they don't make plans they later have to cancel... generally, so they're not treated like human beings, not like expendable business tools.
I don't have anything against Romanians, I have everything against how EA are rumoured to have dealt with the situation. If what I've heard is true, many dedicated employees -who had been given every reason to feel secure in their jobs following consecutive contract renewals and good performance reports- have simply been axed because labour is cheaper in Romania. This makes good business sense, especially when you consider the strength of the pound versus the Euro and the higher cost of living and property prices in the UK, but it doesn't do much in terms of damage limitation on the <a href="http://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/" target="_blank">already</a> <a href="http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48482" target="_blank">tarnished</a> name that is Electronic Arts.
Except that they fixed all that stuff. Unless you think that they'd purposefully leave themselves open to another $14.9 million lawsuit.
BF2 = BF1 with M4 carbines
BF2142 = BF2 with blue muzzle flash
BFH = BF2 with cell shading & simple textures
All these rehashed games getting announced, developed and released before we see any NS2 in-game media is an e-injustice.
BF2 = BF1 with M4 carbines
BF2142 = BF2 with blue muzzle flash
BFH = BF2 with cell shading & simple textures
All these rehashed games getting announced, developed and released before we see any NS2 in-game media is an e-injustice.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I hope that was a joke.
BF1942: Revolutionary WW2 multiplayer game.
BF: Vietnam: Quick, cheap sequel to BF1942 set in Vietnam.
BF2: Revolutionary innovation for the franchise set slightly in the future, way different than BF1942 and BF:V.
BF2142: Quick, cheap sequel to BF2 set in teh futoor.
BFH: Completely new, different casual game with new graphics, gameplay, objectives, and price.
Quotethief Jimbo. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />
I've played both to death and I must agree.
For all the crap that EA cop, they can churn out a decent game. 2142 was a lot of fun and balanced twitch and tactics very well.
--Scythe--
Really, I basically quit playing the game normally and just used knife + cloaking device. Guns are for ######.
For all the crap that EA cop, they can churn out a decent game. 2142 was a lot of fun and balanced twitch and tactics very well.
--Scythe--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's rather the basis of the problem. "By your third or fourth purchase from us, we'll have made this game actually good!"
BF2 basically became a giant beta on how to do BF2142.
I think he got it spot on.
More like BF1942: Helicopters, amirite?
pfft, FH had a kolibri and DC had a "few" choppers didn't it?
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Anyway I just wanted an excuse to post this youtube <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
The last build of DC I played the helicopters were damn near impossible to pilot.
If the world you live in works anything like the Battlefield games, then I'd like to get some of whatever you're smoking.
Didn't he just say battlefield was unrealistic?
Tycho misses quotes ftw.
That's what made it so great. When somebody had mad 'copter skills it was evident and admirable.
He said he never liked the Battlefield series, or, for that matter, <i>any</i> realistic military shooters. So no, he said it was a realistic military shooter.
I believe what he said was "realistic" rather than realistic - the quotation marks are a subtle difference, but they suggest he knows that, while the genre of games seeks to convey a sense of realism through historical battles and weaponry, it is also understood that these games are by no means accurate, true-to-life war simulators.