Spider Alien idea!
The_Disposed
Join Date: 2007-05-29 Member: 61052Members
Join Date: 2007-05-29 Member: 61052Members
i thought of a spider sort of alien that uses web to swing around the map sort of like the hook they have in cs. but the alien woudnt just fly along the web to the place it was shot, you will swing forward too, then when u press jump it will cancel that web and u can shoot a new one to keep swinging along. you can also shoot the web at marines to stop them running away, like your sneaking behind a group of marines and you shoot the one at the back of the group to hold him in place, he can still run towards you but not away, if you hold backwards you can drag him into a group of aliens to kill him <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
another skill is a virus that does not hurt the marine, but if other marines get too close to him they will start taking damage every second, that will make them spread out giving you a change to kill them off one at a time <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
i havnt thought of the other skills for it, come tell me you ideas for skills.
another skill is a virus that does not hurt the marine, but if other marines get too close to him they will start taking damage every second, that will make them spread out giving you a change to kill them off one at a time <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
i havnt thought of the other skills for it, come tell me you ideas for skills.
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It could actually be quite a nice skill based movement technique.
spiders not so keen on - unless the hive turns into one <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
i just thought it might be cool if you could hit other aliens with your web to drag or give them a speed boost somehow, mayby if you where on a roof and u saw a gorge in trouble down below you could web him and drag him to safety quickly <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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Eats little children and kittens?
One thing though about trailing webs... if the gorge is doing that... um don't you think that would be a little gross to have stringy, sticky webs comming out of its posterior...? <img src="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/style_images/trans_system_authority/folder_post_icons/icon8.gif" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />
the pics show how the alien can hold a marine to stop him running away, how it swings and how it can grab items laying around the map.
u know that thread about the marines welding things together to make a baricade, well mayby this alien can pull it apart from far away. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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the pics show how the alien can hold a marine to stop him running away, how it swings and how it can grab items laying around the map.
u know that thread about the marines welding things together to make a baricade, well mayby this alien can pull it apart from far away. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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i really liek how it says gun.
Im honestly not too sure how well source can make players realistically react to ropes.
youd have to get the swinging dynmaics perfect for it to work.
i know from playing garrys mod it can do it with basic objects easily.
on a down side, some maps would just be ridiculous for it.
also, whats its maximum range?
and what happens if it doesnt hit anything?
will it have range fall?
how fast does he retract it?
can he pull it into himself to pull himself in towards the shot location? which would invariably speed him up.
SO MANY QUESTIONS SO LITTLE TIME
and what happens if it doesnt hit anything? - it could just fly back towards you, sort of like a ball on elastic rope.
will it have range fall? - it might have a bit.
how fast does he retract it? - very fast so it wont have much fall range.
can he pull it into himself to pull himself in towards the shot location? - mayby if you press forward you can pull yourself in and if you hold backward you can drag things.
Maybe remove gorges web - and have this as a function instead?
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It'd be ridiculous to make the gorge able to scale walls, Lerk Lifting and Skulk boosting is a (somewhat) balanced way of getting gorges around, because it introduces the reliance on a team mate (taking him out of the offense-rush) to aid.
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thats the problem.. since when is a gorge super powerful with its structures..
the offence chambers usually miss hits, then they have low health that when being fired upon or grenaded loses health faster than a defence chamber can heal.. which in turn usually makes them just meat shields than a defensive position...
marine turrets can keep aliens away for a long time, especially if you have limited resources, no bile bomb etc... while alien turrets because of their lack of aim compared to the turrets, can be killed in the next room with a grenade launcher or grenades, and marines can just hide behind a wall and shoot it...
gorges are always vulnerable because of this problem with the alien offence chambers, they add barely any protection to a gorge and most times marines jump over them to attack the gorge..
the offence chambers usually miss hits, then they have low health that when being fired upon or grenaded loses health faster than a defence chamber can heal.. which in turn usually makes them just meat shields than a defensive position...
marine turrets can keep aliens away for a long time, especially if you have limited resources, no bile bomb etc... while alien turrets because of their lack of aim compared to the turrets, can be killed in the next room with a grenade launcher or grenades, and marines can just hide behind a wall and shoot it...
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PLz... answer one question for me... have you ever played competitively?? you see... the balance of the motion deficient gorgey allows for a balanced game play. The mere fact, for a gore to be moved.. to a vent, it requires aid from a team mate.... which in turn takes a teammate from the attacking position.... which results in the loss of an ambusher ... I mean think about it.. why do you think the gorgey can build and spit.. and little else? Because he is a builder.... if you give it movement then you would in turn give it the power to build and move to a speed comparable to that of a skulk... if the web does not make it faster. .depending on air strafing techniques and end web b-hopping, then what is stopping you from making a skulk a builder as well.. because he can bite?? The gorge would be-able to fly in and out of rooms spamming spit, evading poor aim... i mean.. it could ruin a game.. plus.. y put it in the game other then to pub... and if that is you're intended goal... then plz make it a server side mod to the new game... the way gorge web is now... on NS3.2. btw.. offense* not offence.. as well as defense.. no c mang.... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" />
here in australia and in england its spelt with a <b>c</b>. not an <b>s</b>. same way we say <b>aluminium</b> you say <b>aluminum</b> or <b>mum </b>and <b>mom</b>...
and yes i used to play competitive but since all servers except customs are shut down in aus i now play a custom. and from what i seen on custom servers, marines have no problem shooting a gorge moving in the sky, because you move slower than a lerk without celerity, and it gives you more indipendance so players dont have to fly out of battle and help you.
spit does less damage than healspray overall because you can spit only 7 or 8 times before your out of energy. And believe me, spitting and moving doesnt work because of the speed in which spit goes, you would need to calculate the moving speed of yourself, then the moving speed of your target, aim in the guessed area so spit will hit them, and hope that it hits or that they dont stop or change direction..
dont rate someone on their competitivness. Thats just discrimination and if youve been playing this game long enough you should show a bit more respect to other gamers, no matter what server or how they play, for all you know a custom player will join your server and you will think he is cheating just because hes had every possible modified subject attack him and improve his aim and abilities beyond what your capable because you havent played in his type of scenario.
i still think hook would be vital for competitive and pubs. which is what im more concerned about is pubs because in pubs theres little teamwork. And we should be compensating for that lack of teamwork with more options to increase teamwork via other approaches than just plain asking players and hoping someone will say yes.
i said that in my last post..
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compensation for teamwork, to encourage teamwork. ie, players will have larger opportunities to defend the hive and not have to worry about a gorge capping res nodes.
Regarding the spider alien: I wiuld still like to see an alien that grows bigger with every devoured marine. It would have to be weak at the beginnig and its team mates have to support it. But after killing 3 marines it grows in size and strengh. There would obviously have to be a limit to its growth. The spider would be a fitting lifeform for this cycle of life.
Rope swinging gorges sounds uber cool n funny.
Maybe the gorge should be able to opt maybe at a mid point in the game to focus on being a battle gorge. the gorge would have to scarific some if not all of its building ability to instead become an afordable light infantry class to bridge the gap between the skulk and the more powerful aliens.
The ability to swing down the corridor, spit slime, some other cool attack (that i havnt thought of yet but im sure many will) plus some defence abilities.
This kind of development would forward the chance of that ancient and seldom used tactic of the gorge rush, and if they were swinging in it would be even cooler. like being assulted by green swinging pandas
ps the pic of the swinging gorges is mint