Any new alien would have to have a new role. Currently we have Light attack/Grunt alien ~ Skulk <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skulk.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::skulk::" border="0" alt="skulk.gif" /> Building/healing alien ~ Gorge <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pudgy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::gorge::" border="0" alt="pudgy.gif" /> Arial combat alien ~ Lerk <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/lerk.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::lerk::" border="0" alt="lerk.gif" /> Swift attack alien ~ Fade <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/fade.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::fade::" border="0" alt="fade.gif" /> Tank Alien ~ Onos <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tiny.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::onos::" border="0" alt="tiny.gif" />
What role would the new ones play. In addition if suggesting something, details are whats needed beyond what you have written. What use would they be? E.g. Tec alien that could jam the motion tracker? Turrents to miss fire?
What about alternative alienforms to evolve to? Like instead of skulk a cockroach thingy, or a big, tough man eating plant instead onos? Like Misere's system, but two of each kind!
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Man eating plants and cockroaches don't seem to really fit in either.
EDIT: Although, the armor cracker isn't such a bad idea...but an onos can just eat a heavy, so I think that's armor cracking enough.
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Yeah, but...New races are just....not really fitting. There's enough variety in the current aliens as is, really.
the idea wass new races.... new looking.. its bit boring playing always with just 2 races... any way this new races.. should be a mix within melee and ranged... or other styles like psykik attacks... mind control... other robot race or cyborgs... u know more cool stuff.. i think ns source diserves more than just be more of the same with better graphics ( like cs source and dod source )
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maybe in the new version of Jayken Bacon mod for hl1 lol <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
But hey, I for my side would be open for any new stuff nonetheless <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
I would love a new alien life form... ok like some ideas:
1. A spider like life form. A cheap early upgrade, 10 res or 1 lvl. Basicaly a powered up sculk, a smaller hit box, slightly slower so easier to control, although a faster walk than the sculk. A very quite attack. 1st attack could be standard bite idea, 2nd could be somthing so it moves on a web. (would be very cool in tall rooms where you slide down on the web silently and in a controled way. Hit them once the move back up the web to the roof again) 3rd attack; a life drain idea. The spider bites, and like a mosquito sucks blood till it has had its fill. 4th; could be the poison, a bite that stuns the marine for a very short time, then causes some form of dizzyness and poison damage.
2. Say a 2 marines go into battle and one dies. Suddenly the dead marine wakes up again as some parasite controls it, and the first marine has to start shooting his friend to save himself. To do this you would want a really small life form (i guess) one that could hitch lifts with other lifeforms so ride on the back of a fade. In truth a copy of headcrabs from hl could work and would be cool and it just has this messed up feel to it which is so perfect. In my mind i wouldnt care if it was a headcrab model that was player controled and the attacks could be 1; bite jump. 2; zombie transform, 3; live victim zombie transform 4; ghoul transform (i cant rember what they are called in hl2 but the fast zombies which can climb walls)
Having these sorta thing well they could muck up game play, but they could also be so so so cool!!!
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1. A spider like life form. A cheap early upgrade, 10 res or 1 lvl. Basicaly a powered up sculk, a smaller hit box, slightly slower so easier to control, although a faster walk than the sculk. A very quite attack. 1st attack could be standard bite idea, 2nd could be somthing so it moves on a web. (would be very cool in tall rooms where you slide down on the web silently and in a controled way. Hit them once the move back up the web to the roof again) 3rd attack; a life drain idea. The spider bites, and like a mosquito sucks blood till it has had its fill. 4th; could be the poison, a bite that stuns the marine for a very short time, then causes some form of dizzyness and poison damage.
2. Say a 2 marines go into battle and one dies. Suddenly the dead marine wakes up again as some parasite controls it, and the first marine has to start shooting his friend to save himself. To do this you would want a really small life form (i guess) one that could hitch lifts with other lifeforms so ride on the back of a fade. In truth a copy of headcrabs from hl could work and would be cool and it just has this messed up feel to it which is so perfect. In my mind i wouldnt care if it was a headcrab model that was player controled and the attacks could be 1; bite jump. 2; zombie transform, 3; live victim zombie transform 4; ghoul transform (i cant rember what they are called in hl2 but the fast zombies which can climb walls)
Having these sorta thing well they could muck up game play, but they could also be so so so cool!!! <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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edited April 2007
<!--quoteo(post=1618284:date=Apr 2 2007, 12:38 AM:name=UU1nTer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(UU1nTer @ Apr 2 2007, 12:38 AM) [snapback]1618284[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> I would love a new alien life form... ok like some ideas:
1. A spider like life form. A cheap early upgrade, 10 res or 1 lvl. Basicaly a powered up sculk, a smaller hit box, slightly slower so easier to control, although a faster walk than the sculk. A very quite attack. 1st attack could be standard bite idea, 2nd could be somthing so it moves on a web. (would be very cool in tall rooms where you slide down on the web silently and in a controled way. Hit them once the move back up the web to the roof again) 3rd attack; a life drain idea. The spider bites, and like a mosquito sucks blood till it has had its fill. 4th; could be the poison, a bite that stuns the marine for a very short time, then causes some form of dizzyness and poison damage.
2. Say a 2 marines go into battle and one dies. Suddenly the dead marine wakes up again as some parasite controls it, and the first marine has to start shooting his friend to save himself. To do this you would want a really small life form (i guess) one that could hitch lifts with other lifeforms so ride on the back of a fade. In truth a copy of headcrabs from hl could work and would be cool and it just has this messed up feel to it which is so perfect. In my mind i wouldnt care if it was a headcrab model that was player controled and the attacks could be 1; bite jump. 2; zombie transform, 3; live victim zombie transform 4; ghoul transform (i cant rember what they are called in hl2 but the fast zombies which can climb walls)
Having these sorta thing well they could muck up game play, but they could also be so so so cool!!! <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Like the idea's, I didnt read both fully but I read the first few lines. Heres what I think:
1. Its quite similar to the skulk, but it would be cool.
2. I would be scared to play this game after seeing a thing take over my friend and control him <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />. I think it would encourage teamwork because rambo would mean mindcontrol.
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Light attack/Grunt alien ~ Skulk <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skulk.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::skulk::" border="0" alt="skulk.gif" />
Building/healing alien ~ Gorge <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pudgy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::gorge::" border="0" alt="pudgy.gif" />
Arial combat alien ~ Lerk <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/lerk.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::lerk::" border="0" alt="lerk.gif" />
Swift attack alien ~ Fade <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/fade.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::fade::" border="0" alt="fade.gif" />
Tank Alien ~ Onos <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tiny.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::onos::" border="0" alt="tiny.gif" />
What role would the new ones play. In addition if suggesting something, details are whats needed beyond what you have written. What use would they be? E.g. Tec alien that could jam the motion tracker? Turrents to miss fire?
How would it work?
Aside from being cool Why do we need this?
Interested to see what you come up with.
-Sheepe
"some, ranged technological aliens".......
-Sheepe
What about alternative alienforms to evolve to? Like instead of skulk a cockroach thingy, or a big, tough man eating plant instead onos? Like Misere's system, but two of each kind!
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Man eating plants and cockroaches don't seem to really fit in either.
EDIT: Although, the armor cracker isn't such a bad idea...but an onos can just eat a heavy, so I think that's armor cracking enough.
-Sheepe
that you can choose ,ala TFC.
suggestion is about adding a new race not new alien classes ^^
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Yeah, but...New races are just....not really fitting. There's enough variety in the current aliens as is, really.
or cyborgs... u know more cool stuff.. i think ns source diserves more than just be more of the same with better graphics ( like cs source and dod source )
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<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?s=3279256281428854784&showtopic=739" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....p;showtopic=739</a>
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that link/quote relates to natural selection, not natural selection 2.....
having said that, i i dont think we need a new race in NS2, as its already going to be "a million times better" than NS, as flayra put it.
maybe if eventually we all get bored of the same races in NS2, they could add a new one in NS3.
But hey, I for my side would be open for any new stuff nonetheless <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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1. A spider like life form. A cheap early upgrade, 10 res or 1 lvl. Basicaly a powered up sculk, a smaller hit box, slightly slower so easier to control, although a faster walk than the sculk. A very quite attack. 1st attack could be standard bite idea, 2nd could be somthing so it moves on a web. (would be very cool in tall rooms where you slide down on the web silently and in a controled way. Hit them once the move back up the web to the roof again) 3rd attack; a life drain idea. The spider bites, and like a mosquito sucks blood till it has had its fill. 4th; could be the poison, a bite that stuns the marine for a very short time, then causes some form of dizzyness and poison damage.
2. Say a 2 marines go into battle and one dies. Suddenly the dead marine wakes up again as some parasite controls it, and the first marine has to start shooting his friend to save himself.
To do this you would want a really small life form (i guess) one that could hitch lifts with other lifeforms so ride on the back of a fade. In truth a copy of headcrabs from hl could work and would be cool and it just has this messed up feel to it which is so perfect. In my mind i wouldnt care if it was a headcrab model that was player controled and the attacks could be 1; bite jump. 2; zombie transform, 3; live victim zombie transform 4; ghoul transform (i cant rember what they are called in hl2 but the fast zombies which can climb walls)
Having these sorta thing well they could muck up game play, but they could also be so so so cool!!!
I would love a new alien life form... ok like some ideas:
1. A spider like life form. A cheap early upgrade, 10 res or 1 lvl. Basicaly a powered up sculk, a smaller hit box, slightly slower so easier to control, although a faster walk than the sculk. A very quite attack. 1st attack could be standard bite idea, 2nd could be somthing so it moves on a web. (would be very cool in tall rooms where you slide down on the web silently and in a controled way. Hit them once the move back up the web to the roof again) 3rd attack; a life drain idea. The spider bites, and like a mosquito sucks blood till it has had its fill. 4th; could be the poison, a bite that stuns the marine for a very short time, then causes some form of dizzyness and poison damage.
2. Say a 2 marines go into battle and one dies. Suddenly the dead marine wakes up again as some parasite controls it, and the first marine has to start shooting his friend to save himself.
To do this you would want a really small life form (i guess) one that could hitch lifts with other lifeforms so ride on the back of a fade. In truth a copy of headcrabs from hl could work and would be cool and it just has this messed up feel to it which is so perfect. In my mind i wouldnt care if it was a headcrab model that was player controled and the attacks could be 1; bite jump. 2; zombie transform, 3; live victim zombie transform 4; ghoul transform (i cant rember what they are called in hl2 but the fast zombies which can climb walls)
Having these sorta thing well they could muck up game play, but they could also be so so so cool!!!
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1. A spider like life form. A cheap early upgrade, 10 res or 1 lvl. Basicaly a powered up sculk, a smaller hit box, slightly slower so easier to control, although a faster walk than the sculk. A very quite attack. 1st attack could be standard bite idea, 2nd could be somthing so it moves on a web. (would be very cool in tall rooms where you slide down on the web silently and in a controled way. Hit them once the move back up the web to the roof again) 3rd attack; a life drain idea. The spider bites, and like a mosquito sucks blood till it has had its fill. 4th; could be the poison, a bite that stuns the marine for a very short time, then causes some form of dizzyness and poison damage.
2. Say a 2 marines go into battle and one dies. Suddenly the dead marine wakes up again as some parasite controls it, and the first marine has to start shooting his friend to save himself.
To do this you would want a really small life form (i guess) one that could hitch lifts with other lifeforms so ride on the back of a fade. In truth a copy of headcrabs from hl could work and would be cool and it just has this messed up feel to it which is so perfect. In my mind i wouldnt care if it was a headcrab model that was player controled and the attacks could be 1; bite jump. 2; zombie transform, 3; live victim zombie transform 4; ghoul transform (i cant rember what they are called in hl2 but the fast zombies which can climb walls)
Having these sorta thing well they could muck up game play, but they could also be so so so cool!!! <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like the idea's, I didnt read both fully but I read the first few lines. Heres what I think:
1. Its quite similar to the skulk, but it would be cool.
2. I would be scared to play this game after seeing a thing take over my friend and control him <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />. I think it would encourage teamwork because rambo would mean mindcontrol.