Starforce gets 0/10 rating

NecroNecro <insert non-birthday-related title here> Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
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"Angry Gamer has given Trackmania United a 0/10 for simply having StarForce copy protection. They say the game has good physics, track making and online play; however, the StarForce copy protection trumps all of that and causes the game to get an automatic nil."

<a href="http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/12/starforce-causes-0-10-review-for-game/" target="_blank">http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/12/starforc...eview-for-game/</a>
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  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Before people go on a tangent.. did the actual article review the game properly, completely, and then at the end ive it 0 because of the starforce? Or did it just say "Starforce is bad m'kay" and give it 0 without a proper review. If it's the latter, people can complain. If it's the former, that's fair enough in my books.
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  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    I would say it is the former based upon the quote from the article claiming that the reviewers said "the game has good physics, track making and online play".
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  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Yeah that's what I imagine too. I just wanted to point it out before the inevitable "OMG why dont they just review the game" backlash.
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  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588346:date=Dec 14 2006, 05:56 AM:name=emperor_awesome)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(emperor_awesome @ Dec 14 2006, 05:56 AM) [snapback]1588346[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Yeah that's what I imagine too. I just wanted to point it out before the inevitable "OMG why dont they just review the game" backlash.
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    It's a good thing we cleared it up then before it became an issue.
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  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    edited December 2006
    <!--coloro:orange--><span style="color:orange"><!--/coloro-->Be nice.<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    I don't see the problem with publishers wanting to protect their software although at the same time I've never seen an article about Starforce nor the malware links.
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  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588353:date=Dec 14 2006, 10:10 PM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thaldarin @ Dec 14 2006, 10:10 PM) [snapback]1588353[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I don't see the problem with publishers wanting to protect their software although at the same time I've never seen an article about Starforce nor the malware links.
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    It's like me wanting to protect my chickenshop business by hiring the mafia to go burn down everybody's houses who doesn't buy my chickens, and then the people who buy my chickens, and then burn my own house down because they got confused. That's starforce and how it protects software.
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  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    Actually it looks like Starforce that came with the game corrupted his PC to hell, hence 0/10.
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  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    edited December 2006
    <!--quoteo(post=1588350:date=Dec 14 2006, 06:00 AM:name=emperor_awesome)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(emperor_awesome @ Dec 14 2006, 06:00 AM) [snapback]1588350[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
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    That's not very nice. >:( Can't we get along? :(
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  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    edited December 2006
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    NO ONE GETS ALONG HERE !_!

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    n.n
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  • ExploderExploder Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58202Members
    That's stupid... I've never had an issue with SF. What a hypocrite.

    "Yeah damn good game, but still: 0/10."
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    The thing is, while you lucked out, others have not been so fortunate. I have never had an issue with the flu, but others have died of it. Starforce is a disaster, plain and simple. Just the fact that it's almost impossible to uninstall without third party software should be enough to make the sirens blare.
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Starforce is horrible, and this review, frankly, is entirely justified.
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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    /agree

    gg reviewers

    I've had at least one cd-rom drive become inoperable due to starforce.
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  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588353:date=Dec 14 2006, 11:10 AM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thaldarin @ Dec 14 2006, 11:10 AM) [snapback]1588353[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I don't see the problem with publishers wanting to protect their software although at the same time I've never seen an article about Starforce nor the malware links.
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    It's a free game. What's the point of having ANY copy protection no less starforce on something that's freely avaliable.
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  • TransmissionTransmission Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14456Members
    This Trackmania series is the same one that had a freeware version that included Starforce. Installing the demo would silently install the Starfore drivers, even though <i>one can't pirate a freeware game</i>. And of course, uninstalling the game does not uninstall the drivers.

    The Trackmania franchise completely deserves this score. They've seen the bad press it has netted them before, and they refuse to change.
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    I loveed the trackmania games until I was hit with some PC problems. Low and behold, it was starforce. I have a boxed copy of Trackmania Sunrise sitting right here, taunting me but I refuse to install it again.

    Good job on the reviewers behalf.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    The freeware game had Starforce so they couldn't use the unprotected version to crack the retail game. If you don't know what you're talking about, you have no right to be indignant.
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    What if you have copy protection that is difficult to remove ###### your computer up the ###### with a ten foot pole? do you have a right to be indignant then?
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  • TransmissionTransmission Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14456Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588428:date=Dec 14 2006, 11:39 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Dec 14 2006, 11:39 AM) [snapback]1588428[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    The freeware game had Starforce so they couldn't use the unprotected version to crack the retail game. If you don't know what you're talking about, you have no right to be indignant.
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    The fact that Starforce would be installed silently from installing a freeware version is reason enough to be indignant. I grant that they may have had cause to implement it in the freeware version now that I've looked into it, but it doesn't change the fact that the publishers mistreated their users.
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  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    So, anyone here actually wants the reviewer to say "Trackmania was nice. Though my computer ceased to function because of the malware attached to it, I'll give it a 10/10."
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  • DiscipleDisciple Join Date: 2003-10-28 Member: 22084Members, Constellation
    hahaha that's soo good! nice to see someone say no
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  • TheGuyTheGuy Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19295Members, Constellation
    edited December 2006
    The sad thing is that things like starforce do nothing to stop pirating. You can have all of the copy protection in the world and it's gonna be cracked by some group sooner or later. Why hurt the paying consumer in the process?
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  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    Starforce messed up my computer too. For me it was starforce in UFO aftershock. It managed to corrupt itself and then periodically slow down my entire computer because I put an old CD into my drive.
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    edited December 2006
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    That's stupid... I've never had an issue with SF. What a hypocrite.

    "Yeah damn good game, but still: 0/10."
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    How is that hypocritical? The only thing that would be hypocritical if it was you who would get the SF problems eventual, then begin to voice your disagreement.
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  • RevlicRevlic Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58367Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588501:date=Dec 14 2006, 07:46 PM:name=Epidemic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Epidemic @ Dec 14 2006, 07:46 PM) [snapback]1588501[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    How is that hypocritical?
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    It's like a horror story, like having a serial killer nursing home orderly They act all nice, then they are jacking you full of dioxin.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
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    The fact that Starforce would be installed silently from installing a freeware version is reason enough to be indignant. I grant that they may have had cause to implement it in the freeware version now that I've looked into it, but it doesn't change the fact that the publishers mistreated their users.
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    You kind of had to be willfully ignorant not to notice that Nations was gonna stick Starforce on your computer. It was abundantly clear to me when I downloaded and installed it.
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    What about the raping of your computer's posterior though? Is that acceptable?
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    It seems to me that, when games like Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory and other popular Ubisoft titles that sell thousands and thousands of copies include Starforce, and when a small percentage of people end up having problems, that I have little cause to be worried. Does this mean I like Starforce? No, and I never buy any games that have it (no qualms about downloading free ones like Trackmania: Nations though). I'm just not worried about it screwing up my PC any more than I'm worried about being one of the few people in a thosuand to get skin cancer from being in the sun.
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    What I don't get is that Trackmania Nations is FREE. Thus, it does not require COPY PROTECTION! They use the game as a medium to transport the virus.

    Errr... I mean StarForce.
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