Starforce gets 0/10 rating

Necro

"Angry Gamer has given Trackmania United a 0/10 for simply having StarForce copy protection. They say the game has good physics, track making and online play; however, the StarForce copy protection trumps all of that and causes the game to get an automatic nil."

<a href="http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/12/starforce-causes-0-10-review-for-game/" target="_blank">http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/12/starforc...eview-for-game/</a>

eediot

Before people go on a tangent.. did the actual article review the game properly, completely, and then at the end ive it 0 because of the starforce? Or did it just say "Starforce is bad m'kay" and give it 0 without a proper review. If it's the latter, people can complain. If it's the former, that's fair enough in my books.

Private_Coleman

I would say it is the former based upon the quote from the article claiming that the reviewers said "the game has good physics, track making and online play".

eediot

Yeah that's what I imagine too. I just wanted to point it out before the inevitable "OMG why dont they just review the game" backlash.

Private_Coleman

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Yeah that's what I imagine too. I just wanted to point it out before the inevitable "OMG why dont they just review the game" backlash.
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It's a good thing we cleared it up then before it became an issue.

eediot

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Thaldarin

I don't see the problem with publishers wanting to protect their software although at the same time I've never seen an article about Starforce nor the malware links.

eediot

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I don't see the problem with publishers wanting to protect their software although at the same time I've never seen an article about Starforce nor the malware links.
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It's like me wanting to protect my chickenshop business by hiring the mafia to go burn down everybody's houses who doesn't buy my chickens, and then the people who buy my chickens, and then burn my own house down because they got confused. That's starforce and how it protects software.

DrSuredeath

Actually it looks like Starforce that came with the game corrupted his PC to hell, hence 0/10.

Private_Coleman

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That's not very nice. >:( Can't we get along? :(

SloppyKisses

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NO ONE GETS ALONG HERE !_!

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Exploder

That's stupid... I've never had an issue with SF. What a hypocrite.

"Yeah damn good game, but still: 0/10."

lolfighter

The thing is, while you lucked out, others have not been so fortunate. I have never had an issue with the flu, but others have died of it. Starforce is a disaster, plain and simple. Just the fact that it's almost impossible to uninstall without third party software should be enough to make the sirens blare.

coil

Starforce is horrible, and this review, frankly, is entirely justified.

DiscoZombie

/agree

gg reviewers

I've had at least one cd-rom drive become inoperable due to starforce.

Monkfish

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I don't see the problem with publishers wanting to protect their software although at the same time I've never seen an article about Starforce nor the malware links.
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It's a free game. What's the point of having ANY copy protection no less starforce on something that's freely avaliable.

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This Trackmania series is the same one that had a freeware version that included Starforce. Installing the demo would silently install the Starfore drivers, even though <i>one can't pirate a freeware game</i>. And of course, uninstalling the game does not uninstall the drivers.

The Trackmania franchise completely deserves this score. They've seen the bad press it has netted them before, and they refuse to change.

Comprox

I loveed the trackmania games until I was hit with some PC problems. Low and behold, it was starforce. I have a boxed copy of Trackmania Sunrise sitting right here, taunting me but I refuse to install it again.

Good job on the reviewers behalf.

TychoCelchuuu

The freeware game had Starforce so they couldn't use the unprotected version to crack the retail game. If you don't know what you're talking about, you have no right to be indignant.

lolfighter

What if you have copy protection that is difficult to remove ###### your computer up the ###### with a ten foot pole? do you have a right to be indignant then?

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The freeware game had Starforce so they couldn't use the unprotected version to crack the retail game. If you don't know what you're talking about, you have no right to be indignant.
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The fact that Starforce would be installed silently from installing a freeware version is reason enough to be indignant. I grant that they may have had cause to implement it in the freeware version now that I've looked into it, but it doesn't change the fact that the publishers mistreated their users.

DrSuredeath

So, anyone here actually wants the reviewer to say "Trackmania was nice. Though my computer ceased to function because of the malware attached to it, I'll give it a 10/10."

Disciple

hahaha that's soo good! nice to see someone say no

TheGuy

The sad thing is that things like starforce do nothing to stop pirating. You can have all of the copy protection in the world and it's gonna be cracked by some group sooner or later. Why hurt the paying consumer in the process?

Redford

Starforce messed up my computer too. For me it was starforce in UFO aftershock. It managed to corrupt itself and then periodically slow down my entire computer because I put an old CD into my drive.

Epidemic

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That's stupid... I've never had an issue with SF. What a hypocrite.

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How is that hypocritical? The only thing that would be hypocritical if it was you who would get the SF problems eventual, then begin to voice your disagreement.

Revlic

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How is that hypocritical?
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It's like a horror story, like having a serial killer nursing home orderly They act all nice, then they are jacking you full of dioxin.

TychoCelchuuu

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The fact that Starforce would be installed silently from installing a freeware version is reason enough to be indignant. I grant that they may have had cause to implement it in the freeware version now that I've looked into it, but it doesn't change the fact that the publishers mistreated their users.
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You kind of had to be willfully ignorant not to notice that Nations was gonna stick Starforce on your computer. It was abundantly clear to me when I downloaded and installed it.

lolfighter

What about the raping of your computer's posterior though? Is that acceptable?

TychoCelchuuu

It seems to me that, when games like Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory and other popular Ubisoft titles that sell thousands and thousands of copies include Starforce, and when a small percentage of people end up having problems, that I have little cause to be worried. Does this mean I like Starforce? No, and I never buy any games that have it (no qualms about downloading free ones like Trackmania: Nations though). I'm just not worried about it screwing up my PC any more than I'm worried about being one of the few people in a thosuand to get skin cancer from being in the sun.

Sid

What I don't get is that Trackmania Nations is FREE. Thus, it does not require COPY PROTECTION! They use the game as a medium to transport the virus.

Errr... I mean StarForce.