ok so I just dont get it

ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
<div class="IPBDescription">so frikken tell me yo!</div>why do people still insist on playing 3.1 over 3.2? :o Cause like the only 3.2 server I ever see in the <150ping slot is usually an american server half full of euros :/
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  • pSyk0mAnpSyk0mAn Nerdish by Nature Germany Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19166Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    Bots invaded euro 3.2 servers and noone wanna play them.
    At least there are 1-2 good euro servers, you just have to play at the right time.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    not for me Im banned from yo clan for reasons unspecified (not in the banlist) and no cheesey peetza about to bail me out this time ; ; but yeah the point is if you look at servers there are people playing 3.1 still... why!? :O
  • pSyk0mAnpSyk0mAn Nerdish by Nature Germany Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19166Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    edited December 2006
    There are some players that don't visit a mod's forum/page or fan pages, thus won't receive any update info until most servers changed to it and force them to update. Servers sorrowly don't change because it is a beta and because there are still enough players filling them.
    I'd love to see more 3.2 servers, too, maybe they should forget the label "beta" with the next patch, make it more public and just pretend to release more updates in a shorter amount of time.

    Although you could argue, that players visiting the forum and getting the update, care more about the game anyway and thus help to improve the beta and give feedback without just playing it once in while.
  • DRagonDRagon Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18833Members, Constellation
    fix the forced mouse accel for 3.2 ROTFL
  • vmsvms Join Date: 2005-06-15 Member: 53927Members
    what forced mouseaccel, you havent just forgoten to copy the launch options in steam like i did <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />?
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited December 2006
    3.2 servers, in order of popularity.

    <a href="http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?game=nsp&order=grank" target="_blank">http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?gam...amp;order=grank</a>


    And there is no change to mouse accel in ns ( it's not even possible to force it from within the client.dll afaik ).

    Everyone who has complained about this simply forgot, as vms suggests, to copy their NS launch parameters to 3.2.
  • DoloresHazeDoloresHaze Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58342Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    maybe we will get more 3.2 servers when the 'beta' word will be gone <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
  • PriestlyPriestly Join Date: 2006-10-30 Member: 58098Members
    General consensus I've seen is that people think 3.2 is broken currently, they're waiting for it to stop being in beta, have the broken aspects fixed, and then try it out once it's finalized and rebalanced so aliens dont get completely raped in end game. It's just not very fun, especially in the bigger servers.
  • DRagonDRagon Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18833Members, Constellation
    edited December 2006
    <!--quoteo(post=1587437:date=Dec 12 2006, 09:45 AM:name=vms)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vms @ Dec 12 2006, 09:45 AM) [snapback]1587437[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    what forced mouseaccel, you havent just forgoten to copy the launch options in steam like i did <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />?
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    nope, that's not it.
    I did all the commands toremove it but i still got a feeling that's it's on, when i'm playing 3.1 it feels diffrent.
  • Zor2Zor2 Join Date: 2005-01-13 Member: 35341Members, Constellation
    edited December 2006
    A partial reason why there are still so many 3.2 servers is that (I heard anyway) there are many plug-ins don't work with 3.2.

    So many players who lose their precious 50 levels + structure-building + JPHA mutated CO nightmare may revert back to 3.1. This also affects NS to a lesser extent.

    It's great to see so few seige map servers on 3.2.
  • TalTal Join Date: 2005-02-23 Member: 42223Members
    i just downloaded it yesterday, i thought it was only released for consti testing
  • TerRaKanETerRaKanE Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16292Members, Constellation
    there was a big news/announcement at the mainpage? Oo
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    edited December 2006
    I noticed a difference with my mouse too, but I use mouse accel. 3.2 seems more accurate for me.

    I would play 3.2 but I'm banned from every ns server in existance so yeah.
  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1587425:date=Dec 12 2006, 12:11 AM:name=DRagon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DRagon @ Dec 12 2006, 12:11 AM) [snapback]1587425[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    fix the forced mouse accel for 3.2 ROTFL
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    Hes probally refering to the HLgoldsrc i/o problem with the dreaded Oct 25th update. Valve knows about it and is working on it. Until then, try recording a demo when you play HL1 games. It mostly fixes the problem for me.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    thats ok gumhat! buy whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?11/!1/1/1/1!/1//1!?!??!!?!??!!?!?//.net
  • F4tManMGS2F4tManMGS2 Join Date: 2004-04-10 Member: 27842Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1587542:date=Dec 12 2006, 12:22 PM:name=TerRaKanE)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TerRaKanE @ Dec 12 2006, 12:22 PM) [snapback]1587542[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    there was a big news/announcement at the mainpage? Oo
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    a lot of people don't check here..

    a friend of mine who plays NS but also plays SI had to tell me that it happened; I thought he was full of it to be honest.

    word's probably spread by now, but there seems to be not that many servers (okay, servers with players) and there are in fact some people who despise 3.2...
  • Foxtrot_UniformFoxtrot_Uniform Join Date: 2003-06-12 Member: 17328Members
    how come all you haxors are banned from all the servers? i wonder
  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/fade.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::fade::" border="0" alt="fade.gif" />
  • Gerald_R_FordGerald_R_Ford Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22544Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588266:date=Dec 14 2006, 12:52 AM:name=Foxtrot_Uniform)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Foxtrot_Uniform @ Dec 14 2006, 12:52 AM) [snapback]1588266[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    how come all you haxors are banned from all the servers? i wonder
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    crybabies got sick of losing so much so they banned everyone with skill.
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    How do you explain all the people with skill who aren't banned then? Perhaps you need to look for another common trait for your bullseye.
  • TerRaKanETerRaKanE Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16292Members, Constellation
    probably because they avoid such noob servers?
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    No, I see CAL delta players ENSL premier league players on the 3.2 servers I frequent. They haven't been banned for skill.
  • SyringedSyringed Join Date: 2003-04-17 Member: 15579Members, Constellation
    The few "good" servers that there are left in NS like G4B2S and tactical gamer don't ban players that have skill. Now there are quite a few servers out there that do ban you if you happen to be the one carrying the torch for the team opposite of the admins. I've had my fair share of run-ins with those. Now sometimes the admin in question KNOWS you're not cheating but wants to get rid of you anyways but you're not doing anything wrong just yet so they'll trash talk you, goad you into trying to say something or do something that'll give'em just cause to ban you. Much like a cop trying to fill a traffic ticket quota.

    More frequently, however, I'm finding a lot of admins are simply banning people better than the people currently playing there because they're "ruining the game for the newbies." This reason is absolutely comical. What would happen if a member of their community slowly started to become better and one day just totally owned the team the admin was on and the admin kicked n' banned him? It's akin to an island community of kids that kicks off anyone that becomes an adult.
  • TerRaKanETerRaKanE Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16292Members, Constellation
    edited December 2006
    this is a pointless discussion...
    Its fact that you'll get banned for being skilled. I've learned it the hard way (or I should rather say I got kicked...)
    Please dont argue with premier legue oder ansl players...it has nothing to do with their skill or compared to the skill of anotherone (I'm used to play with them) who got banned. And i dont even think they flame less on server... (regarding arrogance...)

    You mostly get banned for beeing at the wrong time at the wrong place. Add a §$&§$%-admin and you've got your reason.
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited December 2006
    If you actually read back through this topic, you'll see that those servers are not the ones being discussed. People here are banned from servers who DO NOT ban for skill. So the off-the-cuff skillban explanation just doesn't cut it. As I already said, I play 3.2 daily with players who are way beyond the average NSPlayer skill and I don't see them being banned, so I think perhaps some of the people who claim they are being banned for skill are probably being banned for behaviour.
  • TerRaKanETerRaKanE Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16292Members, Constellation
    edited December 2006
    well, yes...right...
    I just wanted to point out, that it happens.
    I think beeing banned for bad behavior is the mainreason...

    anyway... what was the topic? er yes... 3.2 ^^

    1.) I've noticed many NSPlayers are a bit too lazy to customize their ns again or to adept their crosshairs (due to textfiles and the new resolution stuff etc)
    2.) Gamechanges
    3.) Not much people are playing 3.2 anyway "so it isnt worth it?" O_o

    Edit:
    I have only heard such things, its not my opinion. there are always peeps if you want to play 3.2 IMHO, but maybe less so THEY might think "what for?", they aren't of a big use anyway...
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    yeah, of course it happens.

    I think plenty of people are playing 3.2. There has not been a single occasion since 3.2 has come out that I have failed to find a game to play when I looked for one. Some communities have switched over fully to 3.2, others are running both 3.1 and 3.2.

    The reality is that people too conservative to even try the new crosshairs would not be capable of providing good feedback anyway, so we'll not miss them from the beta testing.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    edited December 2006
    lol I still use the 3.1 crosshairs, I think theyre pretty(though probably not very practical) :<

    all this hijacking about banning, duh <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> bottom line is, very very few people are banned for skill, the majority of bans thankfully stem from attitude, however a lot of admins on popular server have either undisciplined or twisted perceptions of attitude <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    [edit - puzl ]
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  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    maybe this is contributing somehow?
    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/?action=files" target="_blank">LINKETH!</a>
  • DRagonDRagon Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18833Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1588323:date=Dec 14 2006, 10:25 AM:name=puzl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(puzl @ Dec 14 2006, 10:25 AM) [snapback]1588323[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    No, I see CAL delta players ENSL premier league players on the 3.2 servers I frequent. They haven't been banned for skill.
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    there is a quite big number of ensl premier players banned from some srvs for just being too good.
    could give some examples but there is no point :>
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