@TheJim, playtesting proved this to be the exception, and not the rule. I set a mvm map up with 8 nodes (co_2front_b09). This is a much smaller than normal combat map, yet some of the best Territory matches I've played have been on it.
I can try modifying one of the smaller ns maps though. Which ns map do ya'll think is the smallest and would work well with this?
<!--QuoteBegin-eliotmat+Jul 31 2005, 11:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eliotmat @ Jul 31 2005, 11:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can someone PM me a time and IP to play on a territory server when people are actually on?
I'd love to give it a shot, but I never see any territory servers with people on when I can play. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The <a href='http://nssb.psix.info/en/browser/plugins/24/?version=any' target='_blank'>Natural Selection Server Browser, or NSSB</a> will show you all servers currently running it mate.
All of the NS:T servers I play on have one thing in common:
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat. NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game.
i have to say it is exactly the opposite in my eyes: It gives the game a nice flow while you defend your own and attack your enemies structures! Especially sequential is always lots of fun!
<!--QuoteBegin-NGE+Aug 1 2005, 03:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Aug 1 2005, 03:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll agree with this to some extent. Example being "Tech War." Tech War is nothing but a frustration. This could also be applied to "Capture All" and "Res War." It is pretty much the same game but you build nodes.
I'll disagree with him on things like "Sequence Capture." I really enjoy that game mode - and a new flow is created. It's too bad minimaps can't be put in (that would make it so much better.) The only thing annoying about Sequence Capture is how it abruptly ends when one team gets the nodes.
<!--QuoteBegin-NGE+Jul 31 2005, 11:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Jul 31 2005, 11:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All of the NS:T servers I play on have one thing in common:
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat. NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have yet to see this happen on a NS: Territory server. Ever. <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> We've got your point, and we can respect that. Like other game-altering plugins *cough*extralevels2*cough* it does affect how the game is played. Perhaps you'd enjoy a plain vanilla server more?
I don't know if I have a favorite mode, as I'm forced to play all 5 fairly regularly. I DO know that you can cram 8 nodes on a small map and have plenty of fun though.
<!--QuoteBegin-NGE+Aug 1 2005, 03:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Aug 1 2005, 03:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All of the NS:T servers I play on have one thing in common:
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat. NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have to disagree with you strongly here. I don't think the nodes disrupt the gameflow at all, but actually add to the gameplay. Now if we could work out the issue of spawncamping i think that would be a big step forward.
<!--QuoteBegin-Olmy+Aug 1 2005, 09:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Olmy @ Aug 1 2005, 09:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NGE+Aug 1 2005, 03:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Aug 1 2005, 03:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All of the NS:T servers I play on have one thing in common:
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat. NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have to disagree with you strongly here. I don't think the nodes disrupt the gameflow at all, but actually add to the gameplay. Now if we could work out the issue of spawncamping i think that would be a big step forward. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Is spawncamping any more of an issue with Territory than it is with standard Combat? I would think not. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Aug 1 2005, 01:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Aug 1 2005, 01:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Olmy+Aug 1 2005, 09:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Olmy @ Aug 1 2005, 09:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NGE+Aug 1 2005, 03:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Aug 1 2005, 03:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All of the NS:T servers I play on have one thing in common:
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat. NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have to disagree with you strongly here. I don't think the nodes disrupt the gameflow at all, but actually add to the gameplay. Now if we could work out the issue of spawncamping i think that would be a big step forward. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Is spawncamping any more of an issue with Territory than it is with standard Combat? I would think not. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, because in standard combat, spawn camping will generally tend to include attacking the hive/cc also, so it won't go on for a long time.
<!--QuoteBegin-Olmy+Aug 1 2005, 12:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Olmy @ Aug 1 2005, 12:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Aug 1 2005, 01:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Aug 1 2005, 01:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Olmy+Aug 1 2005, 09:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Olmy @ Aug 1 2005, 09:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NGE+Aug 1 2005, 03:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Aug 1 2005, 03:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All of the NS:T servers I play on have one thing in common:
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat. NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have to disagree with you strongly here. I don't think the nodes disrupt the gameflow at all, but actually add to the gameplay. Now if we could work out the issue of spawncamping i think that would be a big step forward. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Is spawncamping any more of an issue with Territory than it is with standard Combat? I would think not. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, because in standard combat, spawn camping will generally tend to include attacking the hive/cc also, so it won't go on for a long time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> All right, that's a valid point.
But I've yet to play in a Territory game where spawncamping was an issue. Perhaps most that play it are more interested in building/guarding than spawncamping...dunno. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It could be incorporated into the mod itself if deemed necessary. As I said, I haven't heard a lot of negative feedback on it myself. By a lot, I mean a significant amout. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Can someone put up a list of all the servers running this thing? Or tell me how I can find the servers in the steam browser running Territory? Sounds interesting and I want to try it out.
Is it possible for a mapper to create doors around the spawn area that are opened only by marines? It would still be possible for aliens to get in, but not on their own so marines would be wary.
PseudoKnight, I don't know man. That's a question better suited for the mappers. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<a href='http://www.cc-br.com/ter/forums/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=caa9d6516059d0fe2b46093872357986' target='_blank'>Natural Selection: Territory Suggestions Forum</a> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I can try modifying one of the smaller ns maps though. Which ns map do ya'll think is the smallest and would work well with this?
I'd love to give it a shot, but I never see any territory servers with people on when I can play.
I'd love to give it a shot, but I never see any territory servers with people on when I can play. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The <a href='http://nssb.psix.info/en/browser/plugins/24/?version=any' target='_blank'>Natural Selection Server Browser, or NSSB</a> will show you all servers currently running it mate.
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat.
NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game.
It gives the game a nice flow while you defend your own and attack your enemies structures!
Especially sequential is always lots of fun!
NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll agree with this to some extent. Example being "Tech War." Tech War is nothing but a frustration. This could also be applied to "Capture All" and "Res War." It is pretty much the same game but you build nodes.
I'll disagree with him on things like "Sequence Capture." I really enjoy that game mode - and a new flow is created. It's too bad minimaps can't be put in (that would make it so much better.) The only thing annoying about Sequence Capture is how it abruptly ends when one team gets the nodes.
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat.
NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have yet to see this happen on a NS: Territory server. Ever.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We've got your point, and we can respect that. Like other game-altering plugins *cough*extralevels2*cough* it does affect how the game is played. Perhaps you'd enjoy a plain vanilla server more?
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I don't know if I have a favorite mode, as I'm forced to play all 5 fairly regularly. I DO know that you can cram 8 nodes on a small map and have plenty of fun though.
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat.
NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have to disagree with you strongly here. I don't think the nodes disrupt the gameflow at all, but actually add to the gameplay. Now if we could work out the issue of spawncamping i think that would be a big step forward.
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat.
NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have to disagree with you strongly here. I don't think the nodes disrupt the gameflow at all, but actually add to the gameplay. Now if we could work out the issue of spawncamping i think that would be a big step forward. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Is spawncamping any more of an issue with Territory than it is with standard Combat? I would think not. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat.
NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have to disagree with you strongly here. I don't think the nodes disrupt the gameflow at all, but actually add to the gameplay. Now if we could work out the issue of spawncamping i think that would be a big step forward. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Is spawncamping any more of an issue with Territory than it is with standard Combat? I would think not. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, because in standard combat, spawn camping will generally tend to include attacking the hive/cc also, so it won't go on for a long time.
When the vote comes up, everyone votes to play standard combat.
NS:T is a good idea gone horribly wrong. Regular combat is more fun than NS:T because all NS:T is combat, except you build things. Otherwise it is the same game. And why play combat if you want to build things? That does not make sense, the building of nodes just breaks up the structure and flow of the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have to disagree with you strongly here. I don't think the nodes disrupt the gameflow at all, but actually add to the gameplay. Now if we could work out the issue of spawncamping i think that would be a big step forward. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Is spawncamping any more of an issue with Territory than it is with standard Combat? I would think not. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, because in standard combat, spawn camping will generally tend to include attacking the hive/cc also, so it won't go on for a long time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
All right, that's a valid point.
But I've yet to play in a Territory game where spawncamping was an issue. Perhaps most that play it are more interested in building/guarding than spawncamping...dunno. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Oh btw, are Territory maps just regular co_ maps? Because the servers you listed are running maps that are just regular co_ maps.
As to the maps, you cannot tell by the mapname. My server runs a couple dozen territory maps and only 4 have ter in their name.