Girls And Their Sense Of Entitlement.

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  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    i shoot myself in the foot with gifts, cos i like to see her face light up..

    so like before christmas she got really sick for like a week, and was SO down about it.. so she ended up getting most of her presents which i put alot of thought into and alot of ££ and then ont he day, she only had like £40 worth of stuff... so it kinda sucked for her, me and my gf are big present givers, we come from pretty wealthy families... i wouldnt DREAM of getting her anything worth less then $100, of course it has sentinemtal value too, but that stuff doesnt need to be given on a special occasion, if its under 100 bucks and sentinemtal just buy it. i buy her things like little silver trinket boxes, and rbbits made out of rose quartz just cos i know she will smile..

    treat them like the love of your life. if they are that is.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Drfuzzy+Jul 30 2005, 01:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drfuzzy @ Jul 30 2005, 01:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Jul 30 2005, 01:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Jul 30 2005, 01:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Jul 29 2005, 10:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jul 29 2005, 10:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So today is my GF's birthday. We're across the country from eachother at the moment, cause I'm interning at Amazon.com in seattle.

    For a little backstory, my GF and I went backpacking this past spring break. We both had a great time, she absolutely loved it, and is really excited to do it again. (I posted pics on the forums, some of you may remember.) Since this was her first time backpacking, she used a lot of my mom's equipment, and felt a little guilty about it, cause its a lot of stuff.

    Fast forward a few months to today. I sent her a boquet of her favorite flowers, astroemeria, and <a href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006J30FC/qid=1122693785/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-1546320-5643853?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846' target='_blank'>this</a> which is quite possibly the best piece of camping equipment I own. I've had mine for 5 years or so, I've used it regularly, and I've had to change the batteries like twice. They are virtually indestructible, with no bulbs to burn out.

    Between the flowers, and the headlamp, this has totaled around $80.

    She didn't like it, and was kinda hurt.

    I'm starting to think this is kinda a fundamental difference between the two of us. I dunno, I just can't imagine ever feeling entitled to presents. Like, if somebody gets me something, and its kinda nice, I'm not going to be disappointed about it. I can't imagine having such a sense of entitlement (well I guess I can actually, I felt that way when I was eight.)

    What gives? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thats what you get for caring for anyone else besides yourself, a swift blow to the groin with a cinderblock. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Amen! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I went to buy my girlfriend a $20 necklace earlier this week just to find out shes been cheating on me. I'll save it for someone else I suppose <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey, backup gifts are always a good thing to have.

    Nothing worse than that feeling of "OMGBBQ! BIRTHDAY TOMORROW AND ALL THE SHOPS ARE CLOSED ARGH ARGH ARGH!"
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    moultano, the best advice I can give you is to read the book <i>Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus</i>. By nature of their personalities and hormones women are completely different than men, and their wants and needs are not like ours. The sooner you understand the mindset of your lady (and trust me, you will never understand it completely. Ever) the better you'll be able to please her in situations like this.

    My guess is she didn't like it because it wasn't quite personal enough. Granted, you both may have had a grand time backpacking, but giving her an LED headlamp for camping on her birthday would be like ... buying her a flashlight incase there's a power outage, or a frying pan so she can cook for you.

    Chalk it up to experience, and the next time be a tad more sensitive ... get her something special - like cologne or jewelry, or even sexy lingerie. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    An LED headlamp?

    A bottle of olive oil?

    You both suck at giving presents. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    come on now, your telling me when your parents got your clothes for xmas you weren't dissapointed?
  • SpacerSpacer Invented dogs Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16008Members
    Think about what you just said. You bought your girlfriend a lamp for her birthday.
    If I was her, I'd be pretty disappointed too. It seems like a pretty pathetic gift on it's own, even with the flowers.
    Perhaps if you'd given her the lamp and the flowers, and arranged for another backpacking trip in which to use the lamp, she would've been rather more pleased.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    edited July 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Necro+Jul 30 2005, 09:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necro @ Jul 30 2005, 09:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> come on now, your telling me when your parents got your clothes for xmas you weren't dissapointed? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Parents have the right to be practical, a male in a heterosexual relationship has relenquished that right. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Jul 30 2005, 06:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Jul 30 2005, 06:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sorry to hear that, illuminex. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Her loss. She had someone lined up as a "rebound" summer guy, too, but the fact of the matter is that she's running, and the more she runs, the more she'll miss me. As my good buddy said to me recently: "sometimes you have to move on to find what you left behind."

    And once she's at a point where she can't run from herself anymore, she can choose to meet with me again. Until then, always forward.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Well... um... I kinda see where she's coming from. A headlamp just doesn't feel very much like a 'gift' to me; not to mention it's not very romantic no matter what the sentimental attachment :s

    It be like her giving you a dirty set of perfectly usuable gardening gloves because you once messed about the garden and it was fun. It just doesn't seem to say "romantic present" to me. Don't get me wrong; not all gifts have to have a romantic quality, just it's not a good idea to give non-romantic ones on special occassions and especially not when you give a contrasting prezzie along with it (flowers + headlamp is almost night and day :o ).

    It's a good idea to at least have some idea of how the person will receive something before you give them it; if she hadn't shown any interest in the headlamp in the first place then that should've been a fair enough warning sign ^^;
  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NeonSpyder+Jul 30 2005, 09:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NeonSpyder @ Jul 30 2005, 09:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UZi+Jul 30 2005, 02:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UZi @ Jul 30 2005, 02:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Basically I'm <b>an</b> expensive sex toy, it's great! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fix'd


    *edit*

    GRAMMAR NAZI OLO <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    When shopping for women, the three indicators that it's a good gift are:

    1. Expensive
    2. Useless
    3. Redundant

    So if you get her an expensive necklace when she already has about 30 nice necklaces, she'll probably love it. Any attempt at practicality or efficiency will be severely rebuffed.

    My last girlfriend and I never gave each other the "right" gifts. For christmas, I had stated in no uncertain terms that I wanted a few pairs of heavy outdoor socks to keep by feet toasty because the cold aggrivates my arthritis. She ended up getting me some men's skin care system with exfoliating scrub and lotions and some crazy razor. I used the shaving cream it came with once when I ran out of my regular stuff. The rest is sitting in my closet.

    For about a month before her birthday she had been complaining about her computer, so I got her <a href='http://www.xoxide.com/aspire-x-cruiser-case-red.html' target='_blank'>this</a>. The only thing she saw was that I got her computer parts for her birthday. See, I was efficient. I figured I could jazz up something she didn't like and her case was pretty beat up anyway. I should have just gone with a bracelet or something. She had a million bracelets and never wore any of them.
  • relsanrelsan Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3720Members, Constellation
    Exactly.

    Never give a girl a functional or logical gift. They hate em.

    I think it's because functional gifts you can give to anyone. That headlamp, man, anybody who goes camping could use that. It's not very personal. All it says is, I know you like to go backpacking. Whooptie doo!

    And flowers that I'm certain she's received as a gift before? That's old. You have to keep things fresh.

    You need to get girls something that symbolizes your time together, or symbolizes her feelings about something important to her. For God sakes man, get her something that lets her know that you at least are trying to get to know her and understand her.

    Sense of entitlement? Man you need to get that nonsense out your head or you are going to lose her all together. She's not asking for gold and diamonds, just understanding. I think every human being is entitled to that; especially in a relationship. Swallow your pride and do the right thing.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    Dude, your on the other side of the country from her, havent seen eachother in months, and you give her camping gear?

    Yeah....no.

    Could have just given her some Jewlery. A nice $100-150 pair of earings and some flowers would have made a nice gift.
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+Jul 30 2005, 07:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ Jul 30 2005, 07:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell her outright

    "Look, I thought you liked Hiking? Well... if not... what would you like me to get for you?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Although this might initiate a flame war:

    Presents are overrated.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Necro+Jul 30 2005, 09:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necro @ Jul 30 2005, 09:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> come on now, your telling me when your parents got your clothes for xmas you weren't dissapointed? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, no. I always got them with a few other gifts, and the clothes were always really cool. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Wow. Reading this thread makes me think: "Normal women are compeltely stupid." I think I'm going to stay single until someone who appreciates practicality comes along. ;P (And there are women like that, don't kid yourself.)
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Jul 30 2005, 05:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 30 2005, 05:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Necro+Jul 30 2005, 09:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necro @ Jul 30 2005, 09:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> come on now, your telling me when your parents got your clothes for xmas you weren't dissapointed? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, no. I always got them with a few other gifts, and the clothes were always really cool. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Wow. Reading this thread makes me think: "Normal women are compeltely stupid." I think I'm going to stay single until someone who appreciates practicality comes along. ;P (And there are women like that, don't kid yourself.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not very damn many I'm afraid... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    There's a lesson to be learned here... I'm still trying to find it though. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CMEastCMEast Join Date: 2002-05-19 Member: 632Members
    Women own me... and they are still silly. I just love them cos I am too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    funny story time. I was going out with a girl for not even a fricken month - and lucky me - that short time period landed on v. day. Seeing how I take everything has a joke, and she knew this, I went out and got her a card (along with some other useless crap). The card had a picture of a teddy bear holding a heart. Inside the heart, in gold, was the word "Grandson." I then wrote on the inside something like "Have yourself a merry little chirstmas" and that was it.

    So I give this to her and she gets so mad she leave the room, but I was in a constant state of laughing so I could have cared less. Needless to say we broke up shortly after. Not like I was missing out on anything though, as she was more of a nutcase than myself.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-waller+Jul 30 2005, 01:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (waller @ Jul 30 2005, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There's a lesson to be learned here... I'm still trying to find it though. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    People suck.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    My mom likes practical gifts.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jul 30 2005, 05:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jul 30 2005, 05:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My mom likes practical gifts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    She's a rare one - you <i>may </i>want to keep her! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jul 30 2005, 04:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jul 30 2005, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jul 30 2005, 05:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jul 30 2005, 05:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My mom likes practical gifts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    She's a rare one - you <i>may </i>want to keep her! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    or maybe shes just a weirdo you dont want to keep
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Jul 29 2005, 11:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jul 29 2005, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...cause I'm interning at Amazon.com in seattle. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Presents are overrated. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I kinda agree with that.

    To me the better presents are the ones base mroe on love not money. Companionship and friendship are priceless gifts. If she/he thinks that there needs to be a monatary requirement from you to be their partner, the relationship is not a soul-binding true love but rather a simpel friendship based on selfish needs of financial/social stability and/or sex. Not that there is anything wrong with a sex based realtionship but unless you are a fool and desire short term happiness, don't expect eternal love because it won't last forever.


    I'm afraid I don't really have a good answer to "What gives" because I don't really know anything really about the nature of your realtionship and there's no way for you to put all of the information your readers need to know in any realisitic time & effort range.


    Here's my bit of advice:

    <b>Sounds like you two need to work better on <i>communicating</i>. Feelings in particular. Women are strange creatures for men to understand, you'll have to talk to her more I suppose.</b>
  • arcticaarctica Shindiggery innit Join Date: 2005-02-18 Member: 41646Members
    Yeah, we are huh? We could say the same thing, but that's beside the point.

    As for the topic in hand, slap her for not appreciating the gift from you. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ShzarShzar Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21098Members, Constellation
    Damnit, I disagree with a lot of things that have been said in this thread, but I'm not here to burn bridges. So I'll skip right to the point. You should not never not gift shop for a gender. You should always always always shop for an individual, for the person who 'does not understand women' does not understand squat about anyone. Try to get things that the person does not already have, and practicality is not an issue if it makes your partner smile.

    I'll list a few things that me and my gf have shared (and we must be doing something right, for it has been three years). I took her to see Shakespeare at Bard on the Beach, and I baked her a gigantic cookie. She bought me some cologne, and I used it when she took me to the chocolate buffet (Me being the ungodly chocolate **** that I am).
    What I am saying is this. Don't rely on flowers and jewellery, unless they are particularly sentimental. Gifts don't have to be wrapped in packages, either, and just cater to her interests.
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    heh times like it makes me glad I will just give my best pal on his birthday a card with some weird saying like "happy birthday princess" (even though he is a guy, he has a sense of humour_) and some ... present thingy ...



    Heh, and the story to this thread is, Men are from Mars and Women are from...hells know
  • TrevelyanTrevelyan Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14834Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shzar+Jul 30 2005, 05:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shzar @ Jul 30 2005, 05:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Damnit, I disagree with a lot of things that have been said in this thread, but I'm not here to burn bridges. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My friend... my bridges (what few I have made) are made out of F#@king BRICK AND STONE. You can't burn it down... I'd like to hear what you have to say.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Trevelyan+Jul 30 2005, 06:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trevelyan @ Jul 30 2005, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Shzar+Jul 30 2005, 05:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shzar @ Jul 30 2005, 05:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Damnit, I disagree with a lot of things that have been said in this thread, but I'm not here to burn bridges. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My friend... my bridges (what few I have made) are made out of F#@king BRICK AND STONE. You can't burn it down... I'd like to hear what you have to say. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And mine are made of iron genitals. MINE.
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-the x5+Jul 30 2005, 04:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the x5 @ Jul 30 2005, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Jul 29 2005, 11:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jul 29 2005, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...cause I'm interning at Amazon.com in seattle. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Presents are overrated. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I kinda agree with that.

    To me the better presents are the ones base mroe on love not money. Companionship and friendship are priceless gifts. If she/he thinks that there needs to be a monatary requirement from you to be their partner, the relationship is not a soul-binding true love but rather a simpel friendship based on selfish needs of financial/social stability and/or sex. Not that there is anything wrong with a sex based realtionship but unless you are a fool and desire short term happiness, don't expect eternal love because it won't last forever.


    I'm afraid I don't really have a good answer to "What gives" because I don't really know anything really about the nature of your realtionship and there's no way for you to put all of the information your readers need to know in any realisitic time & effort range.


    Here's my bit of advice:

    <b>Sounds like you two need to work better on <i>communicating</i>. Feelings in particular. Women are strange creatures for men to understand, you'll have to talk to her more I suppose.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    screw that! i want my 10'x10'x20' lego kremlin! and i want it NOW!
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