<!--QuoteBegin-NEO Phyte+Jul 19 2005, 12:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO Phyte @ Jul 19 2005, 12:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jul 18 2005, 11:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 18 2005, 11:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Remember that memorable "NOOooooooo" Vader made at the end of Episode III?
I just made the same sound. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> did all of the stuff around you implode violently? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Doomaniac: "Where's Valve?" KungFuSquirrel: "They're dead. They've sold their souls to EA." Doomaniac: "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
*Walls tear inwards at Doomaniac's <s>Force</s> Fanboy pressure.
Or will this mean "The Sims" style of expansion packs?
Half-Life 2 Half-Life 2:G-Max (be a evil government man) Half-Life 2:Admin (be the adminstrator) Half-Life 2:Blue Night (be Barney) Half-Life 2:Snap (be an annoying camera bot.....woo exciting!) Counter-Strike:Source Counter-Strike:Source:Nightlife (play all maps at night-time) Counter-Strike:Source:Bombtastic (play as a walking C4,don't let the ickle terrorists grab you) Counter-Strike:Source:Simulated (live the life of a counter-terrorist. Watch as he sips his tea over a smoking awp!)
Just watch. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This is obviously a berserker tactic by valve to destroy EA from the inside out. EA thinks they're getting a deal, but no mortal software company can contain the beast that is valve. Sierra could not, Vivindi could not, and EA cannot.
Plus, if it's not, I'll be very sad, so it has to be. Gabe Newel wouldn't make us sad, would he? Right? Right.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Thaldarin+Jul 18 2005, 04:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thaldarin @ Jul 18 2005, 04:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Didn't Cagey work on a game for EA? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, and they fired him as soon as it was complete. It's what EA does - hire a team, make a game at a slave-drivers pace, then fire all the burned out employees. It's becoming a right of passage in the industry.
How did you think Cagey suddenly went to work for EA, and then suddenly reappeared working for UWE?
-I didn't read through the entire thread.. so maybe someone has already said this.-
My first reaction to this news was pretty close to what seems to be what the majority of gamers are thinking right now. Something along the lines of "WTHOMGBBQH4X!11"
Now I'm just hoping Valve didn't do anything stupid, that its just a distribution deal and that valve hasn't buckled to certain EA policies. I would be very displeased to find that the Xbox version of HL2 has had all the graffiti and posters replaced with adverts for EA games, or that the sound track had been replaced with "EA Trax!!11" and thus would be a bunch of crappy songs seemingly pulled out of a box filled with crappy songs or that they had removed all blood and gore from the game. So long as those things don't happen and EA doesn't try to force Valve into doing 8billion HL2 expansion packs, I'm okay.
<!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+Jul 19 2005, 01:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Jul 19 2005, 01:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, and they fired him as soon as it was complete. It's what EA does - hire a team, make a game at a slave-drivers pace, then fire all the burned out employees. It's becoming a right of passage in the industry.
How did you think Cagey suddenly went to work for EA, and then suddenly reappeared working for UWE? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Cagey was an a limited contract. It ran out, he moved on. They actually wanted to hire him permanently.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jul 19 2005, 11:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jul 19 2005, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+Jul 19 2005, 01:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Jul 19 2005, 01:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, and they fired him as soon as it was complete. It's what EA does - hire a team, make a game at a slave-drivers pace, then fire all the burned out employees. It's becoming a right of passage in the industry.
How did you think Cagey suddenly went to work for EA, and then suddenly reappeared working for UWE? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Cagey was an a limited contract. It ran out, he moved on. They actually wanted to hire him permanently. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Really? Well, that turns things upside-down.
Someone needs to publish the games, and it might as well be EA. I can't see any problem with them publishing the game, especially as they definitely have enough resources to get the game out on time with a proper release.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Jul 19 2005, 01:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Jul 19 2005, 01:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If I have to see one "Challenge Everything" video when a future valve game comes out someone. Will. Die. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I sure hope its Grif
$$$ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Nope, I'd say it has more to do with XBoxes being <i>quite</i> close to the PC platform. Less effort in the conversion.
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edited July 2005
<!--QuoteBegin-NEO Phyte+Jul 19 2005, 07:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO Phyte @ Jul 19 2005, 07:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Jul 19 2005, 01:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Jul 19 2005, 01:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If I have to see one "Challenge Everything" video when a future valve game comes out someone. Will. Die. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I sure hope its Grif <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> GRENADINE STRAIGHT FROM THE CAN
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Ignoring whether EA is evil or not (I'm not a fan of EA but I'm also too lazy to boycott them so whatever, they get money from me if they publish a decent game), the fact is many many people don't like them. Valve tends to know what it's fans think quite a bit (moreso than other developers anyway) so they've got to know that not many people are going to be happy about this... So why?
Probably because they know people will buy their games anyway. Stop yer whingin', you'll buy Half-Life 3 if it has an EA logo on the box. Hell, you'll buy Half-Life 3 if it kicked you in the balls every 5 seconds until you got home from the store <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I hate EA because they believe that their work ethic is benefitial for the gaming community and because they killed Bullfrog.
Ubisoft are equally hated for using their titles as advertisement hoardings (eg Wrigley's Airwaves gum).
VALVe are treading a fine line but are safe as long as the partnership goes no further.
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Just to add something. We're in an age where games don't just have to be purchased from the shops, if you see what I mean. There are plenty of ways to excercise your right to buy, or <i>not to buy</i> EA titles.
<!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jul 18 2005, 04:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jul 18 2005, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In the end, only these companies will survive the great war:
Taco Bell Google Electronic Arts Ebay <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Forgot one:
I'm not too happy about EA and Valve teaming up but it could be worse... I just don't want EA to be making any decisions about HL. Like if EA decided NS was against their morals and should be banned from the internet. Or something... If they want to handle the XBOX stuff, fine but I don't want them to come any closer.
Who has time for stuff like this: <a href='http://eadoomsvalve.ytmnd.com/' target='_blank'>http://eadoomsvalve.ytmnd.com/</a> My god people...
Also, AlienCow had a critical point: Valve: ATi EA: Nvidia
Considering ATi vs. Nvidea are the modern rivalry equivalent of Ford vs. Chevy's engine war (although in this case it's graphics cards instead of car engines) and have just as much legal passion as Pepsi vs. Coke, <span style='color:yellow'><b>I wonder why ATi isn't going to sue somebody?!?!</b></span>
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I just made the same sound. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
did all of the stuff around you implode violently? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doomaniac: "Where's Valve?"
KungFuSquirrel: "They're dead. They've sold their souls to EA."
Doomaniac: "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
*Walls tear inwards at Doomaniac's <s>Force</s> Fanboy pressure.
Half-Life 2
Half-Life 2:G-Max (be a evil government man)
Half-Life 2:Admin (be the adminstrator)
Half-Life 2:Blue Night (be Barney)
Half-Life 2:Snap (be an annoying camera bot.....woo exciting!)
Counter-Strike:Source
Counter-Strike:Source:Nightlife (play all maps at night-time)
Counter-Strike:Source:Bombtastic (play as a walking C4,don't let the ickle terrorists grab you)
Counter-Strike:Source:Simulated (live the life of a counter-terrorist. Watch as he sips his tea over a smoking awp!)
Just watch. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Plus, if it's not, I'll be very sad, so it has to be. Gabe Newel wouldn't make us sad, would he? Right? Right.
Yeah, and they fired him as soon as it was complete. It's what EA does - hire a team, make a game at a slave-drivers pace, then fire all the burned out employees. It's becoming a right of passage in the industry.
How did you think Cagey suddenly went to work for EA, and then suddenly reappeared working for UWE?
My first reaction to this news was pretty close to what seems to be what the majority of gamers are thinking right now. Something along the lines of "WTHOMGBBQH4X!11"
Now I'm just hoping Valve didn't do anything stupid, that its just a distribution deal and that valve hasn't buckled to certain EA policies.
I would be very displeased to find that the Xbox version of HL2 has had all the graffiti and posters replaced with adverts for EA games, or that the sound track had been replaced with "EA Trax!!11" and thus would be a bunch of crappy songs seemingly pulled out of a box filled with crappy songs or that they had removed all blood and gore from the game.
So long as those things don't happen and EA doesn't try to force Valve into doing 8billion HL2 expansion packs, I'm okay.
How did you think Cagey suddenly went to work for EA, and then suddenly reappeared working for UWE? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cagey was an a limited contract. It ran out, he moved on. They actually wanted to hire him permanently.
How did you think Cagey suddenly went to work for EA, and then suddenly reappeared working for UWE? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cagey was an a limited contract. It ran out, he moved on. They actually wanted to hire him permanently. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Really? Well, that turns things upside-down.
Someone needs to publish the games, and it might as well be EA. I can't see any problem with them publishing the game, especially as they definitely have enough resources to get the game out on time with a proper release.
O don't mind me... SONY FTW
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O don't mind me... SONY FTW
<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Why an xbox, you say?
$$$
I sure hope its Grif
$$$ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nope, I'd say it has more to do with XBoxes being <i>quite</i> close to the PC platform. Less effort in the conversion.
I sure hope its Grif <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
GRENADINE STRAIGHT FROM THE CAN
Probably because they know people will buy their games anyway. Stop yer whingin', you'll buy Half-Life 3 if it has an EA logo on the box. Hell, you'll buy Half-Life 3 if it kicked you in the balls every 5 seconds until you got home from the store <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Besides, Valve games will not be altered in any way. They still have the huge bank balance to make sure they can make the games they want.
In fact. Let me mention one word. Maxis. In fact, how about two. Spore.
This'll be the same type of relation. Spore'll be published by EA as well.
Ubisoft are equally hated for using their titles as advertisement hoardings (eg Wrigley's Airwaves gum).
VALVe are treading a fine line but are safe as long as the partnership goes no further.
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Just to add something. We're in an age where games don't just have to be purchased from the shops, if you see what I mean. There are plenty of ways to excercise your right to buy, or <i>not to buy</i> EA titles.
enough said
Taco Bell
Google
Electronic Arts
Ebay <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Forgot one:
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:green'>Starbucks!!!</span></span>
I'm not too happy about EA and Valve teaming up but it could be worse... I just don't want EA to be making any decisions about HL. Like if EA decided NS was against their morals and should be banned from the internet. Or something... If they want to handle the XBOX stuff, fine but I don't want them to come any closer.
Who has time for stuff like this:
<a href='http://eadoomsvalve.ytmnd.com/' target='_blank'>http://eadoomsvalve.ytmnd.com/</a>
My god people...
Also, AlienCow had a critical point:
Valve: ATi
EA: Nvidia
Considering ATi vs. Nvidea are the modern rivalry equivalent of Ford vs. Chevy's engine war (although in this case it's graphics cards instead of car engines) and have just as much legal passion as Pepsi vs. Coke, <span style='color:yellow'><b>I wonder why ATi isn't going to sue somebody?!?!</b></span>