To The Future Of Ns

DiskordDiskord Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16464Members
I don't really play NS anymore. Sure i'll toss a game of Co around and watch a scrimmage between clans, but for the most part NS isn't a huge aspect of my life anymore.

For a long time I thought it was because of the changes that were made to NS. I thought some great injustice had been committed and that a great tyranny had been exacted against me.

Then I grew up. Got a job. Moved out.

Now, I don't play NS strictly because I haven't the time to dedicate to it like I used to. But more and more I've been grasping the concept of what NS is. NS is not a professional product (that is not to say it isn't professionaly quality,) but I think thats often forgotten. Granted Mr. Cleveland is doing his best to make it just that, it still isn't and I think the NS community <i>for the most part</i> has forgotten that. Everyone has a specific idea of what NS should be. If you even know me a bit, you know I've advocated several ideas and philosophies about scripts, combat, etc, but now I am an advocate of one thing.

That NS lives on. I think Flayra is making great strides and while it may not seem like it to the community, the monumental undertaking of starting your own company isn't something to be done overnight. And yet, he still takes the time to communicate with the community. I know, I've spoken to him on IRC and on ventrillo during an interview I did during the NS finals a couple years back. He's one of the very few people who has stricken me as someone overwhelmingly intelligent. </brownnose> And I fully believe he is capable of making NS a mainstream gaming product.

I think I've gone and misplaced my point, let me get back on track.

Here's what I'm trying to say. There are alot of you in the community with extremely bolstered egos and you want your way. I know, I was one of you and still kind of am. But trust in Flayra. I think he has good things coming for all of us. One of my goals is to be shacked up in a dorm at a UC in a few years, and I'm hopeful that NS will be one of my passtimes.

In closing, good luck with source and thanks. It sounds cheesy but being in an NS clan taught me a lot about people and how to deal with them. I mean, if you can deal with people from all over the country, with different political, religious, and philosophical differences to achieve a common goal, there may be hope for the world, eh?

I'll be snooping around the community still, but once again thanks. And good luck.

-Diskord
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    needs more cutting
  • CurveCurve Join Date: 2003-12-17 Member: 24475Members, Reinforced - Shadow
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Nah Im just saying this particular type of post didn't have much in the way of drama heh
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    not oen but two irrelevent posts in this thread eh cwag? what happened to you, you didnt used to be a ****** :s
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    Believe in god (flayra?) and he shall giveth(ns:s?)
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ZiGGY+Jun 24 2005, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY @ Jun 24 2005, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> not oen but two irrelevent posts in this thread eh cwag? what happened to you, you didnt used to be a ****** :s <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I got tired of people in general
  • RiotingNerdRiotingNerd Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20896Members
    should have copy/pasted the template
  • Jmmsbnd007Jmmsbnd007 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9793Banned, Constellation
  • CrotalusCrotalus Join Date: 2003-12-02 Member: 23871Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->  So drop the egos?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Exactly, some of you out there are real smacktards.
    Constant "OMG I'm leaving bcuz NS is sux0rz kthxbai"
    and everyone's favorite "Jesus says CO players should
    die" posts are alienating new and old members alike.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->    diksord<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol...
  • DiskordDiskord Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16464Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jun 24 2005, 03:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jun 24 2005, 03:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> diksord <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Here's one of the egos now!


    <3 Jmmsbnd00Sellout
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Jun 24 2005, 11:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Jun 24 2005, 11:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ZiGGY+Jun 24 2005, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY @ Jun 24 2005, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> not oen but two irrelevent posts in this thread eh cwag? what happened to you, you didnt used to be a ****** :s <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I got tired of people in general <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Given your chosen nomenclature, that would make quite an apt sig quote!

    ---

    While many may be growing tired of threads like this, I'm sure that encouragement and faith in their hard work (such as this threadstarter) are what keeps Flayra and the rest of the team working on NS in its respective incarnations.
  • Jmmsbnd007Jmmsbnd007 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9793Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diskord+Jun 26 2005, 02:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diskord @ Jun 26 2005, 02:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jun 24 2005, 03:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jun 24 2005, 03:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> diksord <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Here's one of the egos now!


    <3 Jmmsbnd00Sellout <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    come back to ns ****
    WE'RE HAVING FUN WITHOUT YOU~
  • NessNess Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10935Members, Reinforced - Onos
    Oh, allright. See you.
  • SquishyTomatoSquishyTomato Join Date: 2005-06-27 Member: 54761Members
    I've been playing since the Release of October 31st, 2002.

    I stopped Playing for about 2 Years, Mainly because I had problems in my life, As time went on, i got into gaming again, But now that i come back, The Community isn't as big as it used to be, and it saddens me. I hope Source can improve that, Have a good one buddy.
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    Flayra certainly isnt killing the game and surely its progressing, but everyone has their own opinion. I mean, the game <i>has</i> changed <i>significantly.</i> There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with the direction something has been taken. I have several times and still do about where NS is going, and at this rate it really isnt the game <i>I</i> envisioned I would be playing down the road as I'm sure it is for many others. I doubt I'll hang on to playing NS much longer but still be part of the community. Its by no means a bad game, its just not what it used to be, which happened to suit me.
  • SwiftSwift Lost Keys Join Date: 2005-02-19 Member: 41683Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    *Irrelevent* please delete my post
  • legolego Join Date: 2003-06-30 Member: 17819Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    See ya disk



    [apex 4 life]


    btw any post before or after mine is irrelivent


    gee gee <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Haze+Jun 27 2005, 11:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Haze @ Jun 27 2005, 11:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flayra certainly isnt killing the game and surely its progressing, but everyone has their own opinion. I mean, the game <i>has</i> changed <i>significantly.</i> There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with the direction something has been taken. I have several times and still do about where NS is going, and at this rate it really isnt the game <i>I</i> envisioned I would be playing down the road as I'm sure it is for many others. I doubt I'll hang on to playing NS much longer but still be part of the community. Its by no means a bad game, its just not what it used to be, which happened to suit me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    stop playing on idiot pubs and you might start enjoying it again.
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jun 28 2005, 05:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jun 28 2005, 05:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Haze+Jun 27 2005, 11:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Haze @ Jun 27 2005, 11:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flayra certainly isnt killing the game and surely its progressing, but everyone has their own opinion.  I mean, the game <i>has</i> changed <i>significantly.</i>  There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with the direction something has been taken.  I have several times and still do about where NS is going, and at this rate it really isnt the game <i>I</i> envisioned I would be playing down the road as I'm sure it is for many others.  I doubt I'll hang on to playing NS much longer but still be part of the community.  Its by no means a bad game, its just not what it used to be, which happened to suit me. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    stop playing on idiot pubs and you might start enjoying it again. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    FYI bro I dont play on "idiot pubs." I've found plenty of games with way more than something you can call "decent" teamwork and still not had fun. Is it a problem that this isnt something fun for me anymore?

    <!--QuoteBegin-Haze+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Haze)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I mean, the game <i>has</i> changed <i>significantly.</i><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I wasnt wrong.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Haze+Jun 28 2005, 05:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Haze @ Jun 28 2005, 05:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jun 28 2005, 05:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jun 28 2005, 05:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Haze+Jun 27 2005, 11:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Haze @ Jun 27 2005, 11:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flayra certainly isnt killing the game and surely its progressing, but everyone has their own opinion.  I mean, the game <i>has</i> changed <i>significantly.</i>  There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with the direction something has been taken.  I have several times and still do about where NS is going, and at this rate it really isnt the game <i>I</i> envisioned I would be playing down the road as I'm sure it is for many others.  I doubt I'll hang on to playing NS much longer but still be part of the community.  Its by no means a bad game, its just not what it used to be, which happened to suit me. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    stop playing on idiot pubs and you might start enjoying it again. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    FYI bro I dont play on "idiot pubs." I've found plenty of games with way more than something you can call "decent" teamwork and still not had fun. Is it a problem that this isnt something fun for me anymore?

    <!--QuoteBegin-Haze+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Haze)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I mean, the game <i>has</i> changed <i>significantly.</i><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I wasnt wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Funny thing is that teamwork on pubs is always killing marines / fighting sieges, never killing marine rts even though NS is a battle for res.
  • WellsWells Join Date: 2004-11-18 Member: 32858Members
    people seem to forget for a half life 1 mod that is was realsed years ago it has done incredably well for itself, IE still played loads today. source will boost the community and it will be like the origanal release all over. HL1 is nto really that popular and ns is really the only commanly played mod and for that its amazing
  • comradecomrade Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23774Members
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Haze+Jun 28 2005, 11:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Haze @ Jun 28 2005, 11:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> FYI bro I dont play on "idiot pubs." I've found plenty of games with way more than something you can call "decent" teamwork and still not had fun. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sure
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    I was going to pass judgement on the future of NS, but it seems that opinion is only allowed if it doesn't touch on negative points on these forums.

    What's that you say? <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=95224&view=findpost&p=1521824' target='_blank'>Proof</a>?
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Wells+Jun 28 2005, 06:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wells @ Jun 28 2005, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> people seem to forget for a half life 1 mod that is was realsed years ago it has done incredably well for itself, IE still played loads today. source will boost the community and it will be like the origanal release all over. HL1 is nto really that popular and ns is really the only commanly played mod and for that its amazing <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Half-Life was released in 1997. Is it any wonder that people are moving to <i>next gen</i> games? Like Wells said NS is doing extremely well for itself and patience is a virtue.
  • tankefugltankefugl One Script To Rule Them All... Trondheim, Norway Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--QuoteBegin-Crispy+Jun 29 2005, 12:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crispy @ Jun 29 2005, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was going to pass judgement on the future of NS, but it seems that opinion is only allowed if it doesn't touch on negative points on these forums.

    What's that you say? <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=95224&view=findpost&p=1521824' target='_blank'>Proof</a>? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I recomend that you read that again. Negative views are allowed. Flaming of other people and other people's viewpoints is not.
  • CalebCaleb Join Date: 2004-06-04 Member: 29103Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jun 28 2005, 05:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jun 28 2005, 05:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Haze+Jun 27 2005, 11:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Haze @ Jun 27 2005, 11:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flayra certainly isnt killing the game and surely its progressing, but everyone has their own opinion.  I mean, the game <i>has</i> changed <i>significantly.</i>  There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with the direction something has been taken.  I have several times and still do about where NS is going, and at this rate it really isnt the game <i>I</i> envisioned I would be playing down the road as I'm sure it is for many others.  I doubt I'll hang on to playing NS much longer but still be part of the community.  Its by no means a bad game, its just not what it used to be, which happened to suit me. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    stop playing on idiot pubs and you might start enjoying it again. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thats usually only viable if one is interested in serious competition. otherwise, the number of clan and other organized groups isnt really that big, the number of 'just-for-fun' ones even lower.

    not too many other alternatives otherwise, since its mostly certain pubs that are regularly containing 6-12 people on them

    ultimately, NS for me is fine. so far, the changes arent enough to send me packin, and the whole point is to adapt to whats produced, not have it tailored to my, or anyone elses, specific play style.
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Caleb+Jun 29 2005, 12:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caleb @ Jun 29 2005, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ultimately, NS for me is fine. so far, the changes arent enough to send me packin, and <b>the whole point is to adapt to whats produced,</b> not have it tailored to my, or anyone elses, specific play style. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol

    people are going to adapt by typing quit in console then go load up some other game.
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Caleb+Jun 29 2005, 07:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caleb @ Jun 29 2005, 07:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    thats usually only viable if one is interested in serious competition. otherwise, the number of clan and other organized groups isnt really that big, the number of 'just-for-fun' ones even lower. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    huh? ns isnt "serious competition" although recent events may lead to a different opinion on that.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-tankefugl+Jun 29 2005, 07:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tankefugl @ Jun 29 2005, 07:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Crispy+Jun 29 2005, 12:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crispy @ Jun 29 2005, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was going to pass judgement on the future of NS, but it seems that opinion is only allowed if it doesn't touch on negative points on these forums.

    What's that you say? <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=95224&view=findpost&p=1521824' target='_blank'>Proof</a>? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I recomend that you read that again. Negative views are allowed. Flaming of other people and other people's viewpoints is not. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Care to tell us why you didn't edit the thread, deleting the offending posts to keep it on topic and address the issue rather than just reaching for the lock?

    ---

    Feel free to delete this post once you've answered my question, publically.
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