Acrylic Beta

ZingZing Join Date: 2005-06-13 Member: 53762Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">MS attempt at PS like program...</div> <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/default.aspx' target='_blank'>Microsoft Acrylic (beta)</a>

Microsoft's attempt at getting out a powerful image editor. I don't like it as much as the other editors currently marketed. Any other opinions on this? Will it be a flop for Microsoft? I'm willing to bet it will flop.
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    I still like <a href='http://www.gimp.org' target='_blank'>The Gimp</a> better... if only more people would develop the fine motor skills required to <b><i>RIGHT CLICK</i></b>, it might surpass Photoshop, given how powerful it is in comparison.
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Talesin+Jun 13 2005, 09:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Jun 13 2005, 09:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I still like <a href='http://www.gimp.org' target='_blank'>The Gimp</a> better... if only more people would develop the fine motor skills required to <b><i>RIGHT CLICK</i></b>, it might surpass Photoshop, given how powerful it is in comparison. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Perhaps <i>you</i> have mastered the mouse Talesin, but this technique <i>right click</i> you speak of still eludes my grasp.
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Weak in the force, haze is.
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    The main problem I have with the gimp: 1) Billions of windows. 2) Lack of brushes.
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  • R_A_CR_A_C Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16273Members
    there's plenty of brushes and if you can't find one you need, just make it! it's not very hard.
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    I don't feel like remaking 300+ brushes I have for photoshop kthx.
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 13 2005, 11:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 13 2005, 11:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Weak in the force, haze is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <img src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/250px-Apple_mouse_Pro.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
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  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    Anyone see the irony in the fact that one of the most powerful image editors is fundamentally incompatable with Macintosh, due to the one-button mouse? So much for macs and graphics...
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  • UZiUZi Eight inches of C4 between the legs. Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13767Members
    Yes because they will never understand the power of the right click.
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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Tal, I use GIMP at home, but its interface is just about twice as complicated as any of the competitors, which kind of eliminates it from the competition. Yeah, sure, you get anything you want via the pop-ups. Which makes the whole thing inneccessantly clunky.
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Legionnaired+Jun 13 2005, 11:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Jun 13 2005, 11:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anyone see the irony in the fact that one of the most powerful image editors is fundamentally incompatable with Macintosh, due to the one-button mouse? So much for macs and graphics... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Talk about close minded, and ignorant...

    <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=6906' target='_blank'>#1</a>
    <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=8070' target='_blank'>#2</a>
    <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=7982' target='_blank'>#3</a>
    <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=4998' target='_blank'>#4</a>

    I count four in about 10 seconds of searching for a multibutton mouse for an Apple.

    You do realize that almost all video editing studios use a multibutton mouse... for an Apple.
    <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/productlist/US/EN,crid=2139&categoryid=414' target='_blank'>Full list of Logitech Mice for PC/Mac</a>

    Keep making up excuses though. :-)
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    I take it you have an apple?
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  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 13 2005, 01:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 13 2005, 01:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Legionnaired+Jun 13 2005, 11:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Jun 13 2005, 11:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anyone see the irony in the fact that one of the most powerful image editors is fundamentally incompatable with Macintosh, due to the one-button mouse? So much for macs and graphics... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Talk about close minded, and ignorant...

    <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=6906' target='_blank'>#1</a>
    <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=8070' target='_blank'>#2</a>
    <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=7982' target='_blank'>#3</a>
    <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=4998' target='_blank'>#4</a>

    I count four in about 10 seconds of searching for a multibutton mouse for an Apple.

    You do realize that almost all video editing studios use a multibutton mouse... for an Apple.
    <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/productlist/US/EN,crid=2139&categoryid=414' target='_blank'>Full list of Logitech Mice for PC/Mac</a>

    Keep making up excuses though. :-) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, I realize full well I can buy 2 button mice for the apple. It doesn't change the fact that Macs ship with a one-banger, and in order to use the features, you have to go out and buy a whole other piece of hardware.

    It's the principle of the thing.
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Most computers don't come with optical mice either.. you have to buy those seperate, this is no different. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • BreakthroughBreakthrough Texture Artist (ns_prometheus) Join Date: 2005-03-27 Member: 46620Members, Constellation
    Any screenshots of the program? I'm one of those people who doesn't download anything without seeing what it looks like <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 13 2005, 02:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 13 2005, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most computers don't come with optical mice either.. you have to buy those seperate, this is no different. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, but optical mice only enhance already existing capabilities. It's not the same as adding a new function altogether.
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Apples have a work around for a right click, its called the "Apple button", or it is ctrl.
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  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 13 2005, 02:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 13 2005, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Apples have a work around for a right click, its called the "Apple button", or it is ctrl. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Details.
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  • meepmeep Join Date: 2004-02-04 Member: 26034Members
    edited June 2005
    It sounds more like they're shooting to compete with Illustrator or Macromedia Freehand, although, I'll admit I haven't much experience with those programs from which to base this assumption.
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  • Mad_ManMad_Man Join Date: 2003-06-13 Member: 17359Members, Constellation
    Does control+click on a apple work the same a right click on a windows?
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  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Legionnaired+Jun 13 2005, 02:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Jun 13 2005, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 13 2005, 02:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 13 2005, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Apples have a work around for a right click, its called the "Apple button", or it is ctrl. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Details. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't know for sure, not having a mac. But in java, the check for a windows right mouse click also detects a mac click while holding down a "command" key.

    I get what you mean, though.
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    edited June 2005
    Apple Key+Mouse Button for right click? How're you supposed use the alternate functions of weapons in everyone's favorite games... oh yeah, hahahaha.
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