Guild Wars
<div class="IPBDescription">Any good? And is it really free?</div> Hmm, this should be a good'un.
After Play have decided to f**k up my order for PlanetSide, I'm looking for a non-life-draining, easy to get in to, MMO as a stopgap measure.
Anyone with Guild Wars out there, is it the above? Is it really free?
And the killer question.
Is it compatible with x64 Pro (as all you people should know that I'm going to the x64 OS soon)?
After Play have decided to f**k up my order for PlanetSide, I'm looking for a non-life-draining, easy to get in to, MMO as a stopgap measure.
Anyone with Guild Wars out there, is it the above? Is it really free?
And the killer question.
Is it compatible with x64 Pro (as all you people should know that I'm going to the x64 OS soon)?
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Anyhoo, thanks for verifying what I thought was the case.
I might order it, when NCSoft get back to me on the x64 compatibility...
The towns and stuff allow lots of players but so did diablo's chatroom and you don't see anyone calling that an MMO :p
Anyways, I think the fact that the official site specifically avoids ever calling GW an MMO is a subtle enough hint that it's not.
Not that it really matters on whether you actually have fun in it or not; just don't mistake it for an MMO :3
Well, I went into it with doubts and really dont regret it, very fun in my opinion.
I can honestly say GW is more fun than all of them.
Its engaging enough to keep me from playing ANY other games for 2 weeks, and even afterwards, I still play it exlcusively for PC.
The story is absolutely wonderful, very well done despite dynamic characters.
The graphics, as you can tell, are awesome, but also run very, very well.
The PVP is a lot of fun, with thousands of totally-different strategies involved.
Its awesome. I highly, highly reccomend it. And yes, its 100% totally free in every way other than your soul.
is it a standard MMORPG or some kinda "lobby & room" MMO like PSO
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It has a lobby thing, but everywhere outside of the cities is all instance(aka you and your party)
The only "catch" is that they release new chapters giving new races and skills that you buy separately. Not required that you buy the new chapters and you can play with people that own the different chapters but you just can't go to the new areas with them.
The only "catch" is that they release new chapters giving new races and skills that you buy separately. Not required that you buy the new chapters and you can play with people that own the different chapters but you just can't go to the new areas with them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah you can. If they have it and lead you into it, it streams it to you.
When you begin the game, you customize your character and class, and then you're dropped into Ascalon City. At peak times of day, the city is chock-full of people trading, dancing, discussing, asking questions, answering questions, and dancing some more. After you talk with some of the Warmasters and town cryers and get started with what's going on, you'll probably be directed towards the exit to Lakeside. Until now, everythig seems almost like a standard MMO fare. Then, you see the blurry, misty exit into Lakeside County.
Once you step through, you are in your own little Lakeside. There are NPCs and monsters, but no other player characters, unless you decided to party up with a friend while you were back in town. This means that there's no kill stealing, no empty areas of already-slain monsters, no drop stealing, etc. This system, while "instancing" your world for much of the game, makes the game world feel huge and expansive. If you decide to trek across Lakeside, you'll find a misty entrance into Ashford Abbey, which is set up similar to Ascalon City. It's another small outpost, brimming with people.
There are quite a few options for partying. Early on, you won't need to, but you may if you wish. Later, it becomes near impossible to get from point A to point B without the help of others. From here, if you wish, you may form a pick-up group with other players headed in the same direction (LFG in the chat box: Looking For Group). That's sometimes a bit of a hassle, so there are some NPC Hechmen. They're the best you can get for raw meatshielding. Henchmen are there so you can cross short distances like from Ascalon Ctiy to the Ashford. They aren't strong, but they take enough hits to keep you alive while you deal the damage.
How did I end up writing a mini-instruction manual of this game? Ah, just have fun with it.
Can I ask why?
I cancelled because of melee characters being able to totally dominate casters. That and the only class I really looked forward to playing was a warlock and Im pretty sure you know why Im not happy with one
<a href='http://support.guildwars.com/cgi-bin/guildwars.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2069&p_created=1114680495&p_sid=PrXP2fGh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD04MCZwX3Byb2RzPSZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1' target='_blank'>They don't support it.</a> Though they don't say if it won't work or not.
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Yeah you can. If they have it and lead you into it, it streams it to you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Source?
From <a href='http://support.guildwars.com/cgi-bin/guildwars.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1117&p_created=1098967992&p_sid=Z1xl4fGh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD04MCZwX3Byb2RzPSZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT00&p_li=&p_topview=1' target='_blank'>this article</a> <!--QuoteBegin-Guild Wars User Support+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Guild Wars User Support)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But players who do not purchase the chapters will still be able to play Guild Wars, and will have the opportunity to play with their friends who did purchase the other chapters in <i><b>some</b></i> areas of the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It makes it sound like you can't.
I wonder about that invitation thing though. Can I use the map to travel back there at a later point(without exp pack, after being invited...), or is that part of the "catch"? Would make sense, though I suppose people could just leave their computers on while they do other stuff if they really wanted to complete all the new missions.
What's more important is that there are updates to the existing chapters by the "live team" adding new content, which is included in your inital chapter fee.
Currently there's already a new highlevel area coming out called Sorrow's Furnace so their promises of updates seem to be real. I'd say that the chapter purchase system is actualy a stronger motivation for them to keep updates comming since if you're unhappy, you wont buy the new chapter. Which is how they get their money. It's kinda like pay if you like it system almost, once you have the first chapter.
I've never played alot in MMORPGs and stuff other then some betas, but I would say that the general imersion level in the world is quite high. It's defenetly NOT just a lobby or chatroom.
I'm defenetly going to be buying the next chapter when it comes out.
Just as a little plug, join us in #ns-gw , we even have a guild going if you want to join up.
Must get me an IRC program first, before I can join anyone... (slaps Trillian for not having one compatible with x64 <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
And the updating is not just for new areas either. Balance patches come quickly, and auto-download when you start up the game. For example, it took about 5 days for the devs to realize that fur squares were WAY too hard to come by in the early part of the game, and this sucked because warriors need furs for good armor really early. One minor tweak later, and the problem is now gone; the price of a fur dropped from ~800 to 200-300. That's what I call service; recognizing problems and dealing with them quickly.
They have compared the future expansion packs to MtG blocks; you can buy as many as you want, the more you buy the wider your selection of skills and areas, but you don't automatically get massively better just by buying a new expansion.
My pants are expanding.
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For free.
Guild Wars is free,but sadly seems flawed,even at the early stages I'm at. (level 2)
It is played like a MMORPG level-wise,but you can only explore the worlds outside of towns with other people if you're in a party. (starts at only 2 people) This I admit sounds intriguing,and worth looking into. CORPG is correct.
Sadly,the town system is f**ked. You enter a town,and it randomly assigns you to a district. Problem is,it's hard to find another English speaker let alone a district. This is a pain in the ****,there's no language system to allow for different districts for each language. A case of guess and hope. Major minus point for GW.
Also,you have to load each area,but this isn't a problem as once you load it once,it's done. Just a 3-second gap each time.
Second problem; bad controlling system for fighting IMO. Not quite as easy to use as WOW's system. Can lead you to attacking enemies when you don't want to,and also there's an early quest that is bugged involving a small child.
GW is free though. The only positive so far.
I think GW has great potential,I like the sound of it's PvP guild battles. It just seems very clunky.
My advice:
Buy WOW. If you don't like it's gameplay and wouldn't want to play it for another month,then try GW. But personally WOW > GW so far.
Guild Wars is free,but sadly seems flawed,even at the early stages I'm at. (level 2)
It is played like a MMORPG level-wise,but you can only explore the worlds outside of towns with other people if you're in a party. (starts at only 2 people) This I admit sounds intriguing,and worth looking into. CORPG is correct.
Sadly,the town system is f**ked. You enter a town,and it randomly assigns you to a district. Problem is,it's hard to find another English speaker let alone a district. This is a pain in the ****,there's no language system to allow for different districts for each language. A case of guess and hope. Major minus point for GW.
Also,you have to load each area,but this isn't a problem as once you load it once,it's done. Just a 3-second gap each time.
Second problem; bad controlling system for fighting IMO. Not quite as easy to use as WOW's system. Can lead you to attacking enemies when you don't want to,and also there's an early quest that is bugged involving a small child.
GW is free though. The only positive so far.
I think GW has great potential,I like the sound of it's PvP guild battles. It just seems very clunky.
My advice:
Buy WOW. If you don't like it's gameplay and wouldn't want to play it for another month,then try GW. But personally WOW > GW so far. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can choose what district upper left hand corner <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Guild Wars is free,but sadly seems flawed,even at the early stages I'm at. (level 2)
It is played like a MMORPG level-wise,but you can only explore the worlds outside of towns with other people if you're in a party. (starts at only 2 people) This I admit sounds intriguing,and worth looking into. CORPG is correct.
Sadly,the town system is f**ked. You enter a town,and it randomly assigns you to a district. Problem is,it's hard to find another English speaker let alone a district. This is a pain in the ****,there's no language system to allow for different districts for each language. A case of guess and hope. Major minus point for GW.
Also,you have to load each area,but this isn't a problem as once you load it once,it's done. Just a 3-second gap each time.
Second problem; bad controlling system for fighting IMO. Not quite as easy to use as WOW's system. Can lead you to attacking enemies when you don't want to,and also there's an early quest that is bugged involving a small child.
GW is free though. The only positive so far.
I think GW has great potential,I like the sound of it's PvP guild battles. It just seems very clunky.
My advice:
Buy WOW. If you don't like it's gameplay and wouldn't want to play it for another month,then try GW. But personally WOW > GW so far. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can choose what district upper left hand corner <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And the game assigns you to a regional district depending on where you live. I'm in the USA districts, and I've never had a problem finding someone who speaks english. Actually, I've only ever seen I think 3 people who <u>weren't</u> speaking english. idk where you live, but if you're in, say, Japan, don't be surprised if you're assigned to a district where everyone speaks Japanese.
And the first couple of levels are really slow, tbh. The game picks up a LOT post-searing, but don't go into the academy until at the least level 5. And get all the skills for your two classes...or you will die. Miserably.
Oh yeah, and that quest with Gwen in the beginning isn't actually coded in yet. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit]I just saw from your profile you live in England. Check in the upper corner; do you have an "England" district, or are you clumped in a "European" district? If it's the former, I don't know why you can't find english speakers. If it's the latter, then it's not surprising you see a lot of languages spoken. Just district-jump until you find some english speakers.