[wip] The Inverted Shotgun.

mr_raymr_ray Join Date: 2004-08-28 Member: 30984Members
in NS Customization
Based on <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91149&st=0' target='_blank'>Sid's concept</a>
<a href='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Mr.Ray/shotgun/shotty1.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Mr.Ray/shotgun/th_shotty1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a>
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  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    hmm interesting concept and looks pretty cool although i wouldnt want to shoot that thing perssonally in real life. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DogmeatDogmeat Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13571Members
    Cool model but wouldn't the p model look strange when held by a player.
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  • nogoodnicknamenogoodnickname Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46172Members
    oh yes
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  • HawkpulseHawkpulse Join Date: 2005-03-26 Member: 46480Members
    itd hurt like hell when you shot it.
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  • Mr_JeburtOMr_JeburtO Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20340Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dogmeat+Apr 5 2005, 09:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dogmeat @ Apr 5 2005, 09:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Cool model but wouldn't the p model look strange when held by a player. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you'd have to re-animate the marine model,
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  • PithlitPithlit Join Date: 2003-05-07 Member: 16120Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    mighty cool model ^^
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  • MrSocksMrSocks Join Date: 2004-07-16 Member: 29946Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Hawkpulse+Apr 5 2005, 11:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkpulse @ Apr 5 2005, 11:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> itd hurt like hell when you shot it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    nanites make it not hurt <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    they also solve any other problems with this gun. hurrah for nanites
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  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    smoothing?
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  • nogoodnicknamenogoodnickname Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46172Members
    maby looks too blocky on some places like barrel
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    you will burn in hell for that model...and sid too
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    what comes next? hello hunzy grenades?
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  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Apr 5 2005, 05:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Apr 5 2005, 05:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    what comes next? hello hunzy grenades? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No.

    Just. No.
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  • ScrapScrap Join Date: 2005-01-06 Member: 32953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Apr 5 2005, 12:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Apr 5 2005, 12:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you will burn in hell for that model...and sid too
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    what comes next? hello hunzy grenades? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no, the next step logicaly is a 90 degrees turned shotty so the kick wont break your wrists but just throw itself behidn ya so a teammate could pick it up, no more shotty loss for marines then.

    and i want a holy grenade in ns that say "haaalelujja!" when you throw it.

    but the model rox, i mean the idea rocked already, its so fresh.
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  • RSXRSX Join Date: 2004-08-18 Member: 30703Members
    edited April 2005
    Looking ok, abit to low poly. I'd also remove the piece on the handle, waste of polies and wont be seen ingame with the hand over it.
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  • slayerkl2slayerkl2 RUFCKINGKETAMINE?????? Join Date: 2004-10-17 Member: 32324Members
    edited April 2005
    i am very disapointed in ray & sid. Sid you are the best concept artist around here (imho), ALTHOUGH you lack the pysics of a gun. When you make a concept pick up something that mayreseble the gun and imagine how you would feel holding it.

    In this case because the basic shotgun in ns is a 10 g shotgun the kick back would be fairly far + all the wieght from that ginomous (and ugly) handel would make the kick back further and make the gun harder to controle. THis looks like something from a weird cheep game with a good modeler that can do better.

    Which incomes mr.ray. Mr. ray i am a fan to your work (Brigaderwolf, sheena, mr. ray <- from fav to 3rd fav. And yes sheena im a huge fan of your works.). Mr. ray out of all of sids buetiful concepts you picked the most ugly of all. Now you modeled an ugly gun buitfuly (which is an oxmoron) which basicy makes it ugly. It looks like a well made sphere with a well made cylinder popeing out of it (no not like a penor).

    Try somethign else of sids. I would use it, I want a nice shotgun but this i would never use ( i am stuck with the jin roh one which is not bad but isnt eye candy.)

    edit i need to add in a corection but i am too lazy to read my own crap so i ment 2 well made pipes sticking outa a half sphere. Well i guess with a good texture this would be nice.
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  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-slayerkl2+Apr 6 2005, 02:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (slayerkl2 @ Apr 6 2005, 02:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i am very disapointed in ray & sid. Sid you are the best concept artist around here (imho), ALTHOUGH you lack the pysics of a gun. When you make a concept pick up something that mayreseble the gun and imagine how you would feel holding it.

    In this case because the basic shotgun in ns is a 10 g shotgun the kick back would be fairly far + all the wieght from that ginomous (and ugly) handel would make the kick back further and make the gun harder to controle. THis looks like something from a weird cheep game with a good modeler that can do better.

    Which incomes mr.ray. Mr. ray i am a fan to your work (Brigaderwolf, sheena, mr. ray <- from fav to 3rd fav. And yes sheena im a huge fan of your works.). Mr. ray out of all of sids buetiful concepts you picked the most ugly of all. Now you modeled an ugly gun buitfuly (which is an oxmoron) which basicy makes it ugly. It looks like a well made sphere with a well made cylinder popeing out of it (no not like a penor).

    Try somethign else of sids. I would use it, I want a nice shotgun but this i would never use ( i am stuck with the jin roh one which is not bad but isnt eye candy.)

    edit i need to add in a corection but i am too lazy to read my own crap so i ment 2 well made pipes sticking outa a half sphere. Well i guess with a good texture this would be nice. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> nanites <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    im sure theyve both heard the "think of yourself holding the weapon" story... but who needs it to be realistic... youre not gonna break your wrist in real life.. so just sit back and laugh at the v_model breaking his wrist....

    hmm how bout for a fire animation the marines wrist actually breaks O_o
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  • TheUdderOneTheUdderOne Join Date: 2004-05-04 Member: 28471Members
    If you want realism, go shoot a gun. Since when has this game been remotely realistic anyways?

    Basically, the concept looks cool, and it'll look cool in game.


    P.S. I'm workin on the flamethrower version <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • mirrodinmirrodin Join Date: 2004-06-29 Member: 29621Members
    slayerkl2: Nanites! Remember the nanites! I'm sure, according to real life physics, shooting a automatic rifle causes recoil, I'm also sure an M60 would be hard to charge with. This is game, is not realistic, it is futuristic, and is still fun.

    I will be skinning this (unless there is a death in the family, or I get some rare African disease). Send me the model and the UVmap when they are ready.
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  • slayerkl2slayerkl2 RUFCKINGKETAMINE?????? Join Date: 2004-10-17 Member: 32324Members
    ahh the nanite flames. I know that, but i dont think that your arms (nanites or not) can confortable hold a gun that way. And im not thinking about relism im really thinking about how frucjed up the arms would look in game.
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  • bmdavllbmdavll Join Date: 2004-09-13 Member: 31682Members
    Sounds couterintuitive to me...the recoil would be working with gravity, and it'd be damn hard to aim.
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  • l0tusl0tus Join Date: 2004-09-07 Member: 31492Members
    edited April 2005
    i can't help but wonder how it will translate visually in·game, considering your limited field·of·view. i hope the novelty of it being held as it is isn't lost in translation, i.e. marred by some odd origin you might have to use... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    edited April 2005
    Woah! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    First of all, I would like to thank Mr. Ray SO much for modelling this. The double barrels look badass!

    And Slayer, lighten up man. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> No, I'm not offended at your comments.. not at all, actually. I'm just trying to say.. please don't flame people for trying to provide things for the community and whatnot.

    Sure, the concept wouldn't work in real life... but hey, lookit this! This isn't real life.

    And sure, the concepts is ugly (But the model is so awesome looking!), I designed the concept to be that way. XD

    Like, seriously - an inverted shotgun?! If I wanted it to look pretty, Slayer, I would of made a normal shotgun.

    Which leads me to another thing... how many inverted shotguns have you seen? Hah! Demented originality from yours truly.

    Thanks for your time. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    And thanks again Mr. Ray - YOU ROCK!

    P.S. Thanks too, Mirrodin!
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-TheUdderOne+Apr 6 2005, 03:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheUdderOne @ Apr 6 2005, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> P.S. I'm workin on the flamethrower version <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Holy - Thanks udder! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • slayerkl2slayerkl2 RUFCKINGKETAMINE?????? Join Date: 2004-10-17 Member: 32324Members
    I didnt mean to offend you in anyway and i am glad you arent. And what the internet is LIEK NOT R34L L1F3 0M6 NO WAY!

    No seriously although most here will doubt it i have a life.
    My <3 order (Brigaderwolf, Sheena, Mr. Ray) = modlers Skinners (**Grizzly) = Only cool one, Animators = (Todie, Fuzzy) although fuzzy secretly hates me i know it!!!!
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  • mr_raymr_ray Join Date: 2004-08-28 Member: 30984Members
    edited April 2005
    thnx for the comments guys.
    I was reading thru the forum and came across sid's concept and thought it was quite unique, wanted to see it in 3d so secided to model it. Dont feel like adding anymore to this cos I wasnt really intending to add this ingame, but i can upload the model file if anyone wants to finish this off or jus wants a closer look.

    I'm working on something else more interesting so i might post it later.

    Edit: Oh forgot to thnx slayer for his <3 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Scrap+Apr 6 2005, 08:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scrap @ Apr 6 2005, 08:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Apr 5 2005, 12:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Apr 5 2005, 12:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you will burn in hell for that model...and sid too
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    what comes next?  hello hunzy grenades? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no, the next step logicaly is a 90 degrees turned shotty so the kick wont break your wrists but just throw itself behidn ya so a teammate could pick it up, no more shotty loss for marines then.

    and i want a holy grenade in ns that say "haaalelujja!" when you throw it.

    but the model rox, i mean the idea rocked already, its so fresh. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It wouldn't break your wrist. Nothing, no matter how farfetched could break your wrist in the firearms world.

    Unless you got shot in the wrist.
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  • slayerkl2slayerkl2 RUFCKINGKETAMINE?????? Join Date: 2004-10-17 Member: 32324Members
    shoot a para resting against somethign with just your hand on the grip and finger on the triger. The jerk of each shot has a high chance of fracturing your wrist whicfh is almost as bad.
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Well, wrist breaks or not - I really, really like the model and would love to see this in game. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    And thanks Slayer - I actually liked your feedback - I use everything that anyone tells me to good use in my future concepts and whatnot. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • axmanaxman Join Date: 2004-02-20 Member: 26724Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I use everything that anyone tells me to good use in my future concepts and whatnot.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    oo so then heres sum advice.... dont make ur pooptastic concepts that suck....

    lol jp much love sid

    i like this gun it looks hot

    mesh and skin it sumone i might if i have time but ive been doing more stuff in real life latly
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-axman+Apr 7 2005, 07:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (axman @ Apr 7 2005, 07:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I use everything that anyone tells me to good use in my future concepts and whatnot.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    oo so then heres sum advice.... dont make ur pooptastic concepts that suck....

    lol jp much love sid

    i like this gun it looks hot

    mesh and skin it sumone i might if i have time but ive been doing more stuff in real life latly <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh, thanks.. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • mirrodinmirrodin Join Date: 2004-06-29 Member: 29621Members
    I kinda forgot how to UVmap things. I used to be able to do it (effiectly too), but I have not modeled or meshed in over a year. (Err..ignore the aborted Chainsword skin, I didn't have Photoshop so my choice of things-I-could-do-or-use was very limited)
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