Stratigically Taking Your Own Life.
AvengerX
Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27459Banned
Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27459Banned
I often do this in games, sometimes when I'm just doing some lone marine work out in the field I'll see an onos coming at me from the hall way... so of course I empty my pistol clip and lmg into him, but first I use the kill command in consol (I have it bound to my keyboard) so that by the time he gets to me I suicide thus stopping him from getting the R4k. its a good stradagy.
but is that cool? I think so , I mean heck this is the same forums that said spawn camping is all part of the game. so I figure this is fair play as well
but is that cool? I think so , I mean heck this is the same forums that said spawn camping is all part of the game. so I figure this is fair play as well
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once i had done it in 3sec, then i went to another server. did it and it took 8 sec. around the 5th sec i was digested.
and I think that in CAL matches it has to be set to defualt which is 3. so its not a big deal i suppose.
You could also call structure blocking strategically viable, but its pretty much widely accepted as "uncool".
Like I said before, I've never really had problems with this in NS, in fact can't even recall seeing anyone doing it to myself or any other players. Most of my feeling on this matter come from Enemy Territory, where I saw it in nearly every server I played on, though many servers frowned upon such behavior and banned on sight.
Eh, thats my thoughts on the matter. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
its more or less jumping into the giant hole in Marine Start on ns_nothing or off the res node platform in Marine start on ns_hera.
Can't forget the "Crouch and play with Gorges, then knife the hive and commit suicide" strategy.
Whoa whoa, now dont get all changed up here. Are you asking whether or not suiciding to prevent "aliens" (not onos <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> dont know where this is all coming from) from getting res is lame or not? Cause from your reply it sounds like the whole point of thread was "is it ok for me to suicide so some kid who res ****d can't kill me!?11" rather than what I was replying to in the first place.
skulks and gorges aren't garenteed to kill you like an onos will
Lerks and fade are pretty fast and can usually ambush and kill you before you'll kill yourself
and the onos is slow and easy to see coming, its easy to kill yourself before it can.
thats why most the times I kill myself to an onos. sometimes a fade if it starts walking too soon and doesn't blink close enough. but not very often
I think suicide is a totally viable tactic
why's it frowned upon? I mean as my post says it doesn't allways work. and you are garenteeing that you will die. so whats the problem? it has plenty of drawbacks.
Just doing this for onos kind of cancels out calling it much of a strategy cause just doing it against one lifeform really isnt going to change much in the overall course of the game. Maybe if your whole team was doing it lol, but then youd never make any progress, killing yourself every time you saw an onos and you were oh lets say 2 or less marines together. Would be funny though <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
like if I'm out of ammo and I hear an alien coming down the hall and my comm is a moron and can't drop ammo packs in under 2 minutes... then I'll kill myself
and I do it agaisnt fades and even sometimes lerks. its just I don't allways live the whole 3 seconds. thats all
I think it can help out in a game.
mp_killdelay 7
gl predicting 7 seconds in the future, it does not work.
Most of my res comes from the RTs until I can go lerk, fade or onos. Sometimes i'll have a good run early now and then and get some extra.
But like you said yourself, youre not always going to die to a skulk, gorge or lerk for that matter, thats already more than half of the lifeforms right there. Fades and onos are gonna kill you most like always when you're alone, sure you can suicide but to no real gain. The onos and fade are already ... onos and fade lol, and the longer they're alive the longer they dont need to worry about their res. IMO you should be more worried about killing the fade/onos early to prevent him from getting more res as a lifeform that can easily kill marines as opposed to a skulk who has to work for his/her/its bread and butter.
IMO doing this would not be useful without some concetrated effort to prevent their whole team from getting res from kills. It seems to me it would be more effective to try and kill all of them alot early on, but thats just me I guess <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
Most of my res comes from the RTs until I can go lerk, fade or onos. Sometimes i'll have a good run early now and then and get some extra.
But like you said yourself, youre not always going to die to a skulk, gorge or lerk for that matter, thats already more than half of the lifeforms right there. Fades and onos are gonna kill you most like always when you're alone, sure you can suicide but to no real gain. The onos and fade are already ... onos and fade lol, and the longer they're alive the longer they dont need to worry about their res. IMO you should be more worried about killing the fade/onos early to prevent him from getting more res as a lifeform that can easily kill marines as opposed to a skulk who has to work for his/her/its bread and butter.
IMO doing this would not be useful without some concetrated effort to prevent their whole team from getting res from kills. It seems to me it would be more effective to try and kill all of them alot early on, but thats just me I guess <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
you make it sound like I'm ghandi and don't shoot at the aliens.... I suicide from the onos when I didn't know it was around... now I know its around and me and 5 other marines get shotties and go bring it down... same with fades, I don't run around the map playing peek-a-boo with high level lifeforms just for the rush of dying right before they can kill me for crying out loud
but is that cool? I think so , I mean heck this is the same forums that said spawn camping is all part of the game. so I figure this is fair play as well <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Killing yourself is fine. As for spawn camping, it is part of the game, sorry.
but is that cool? I think so , I mean heck this is the same forums that said spawn camping is all part of the game. so I figure this is fair play as well <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Killing yourself is fine. As for spawn camping, it is part of the game, sorry. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
then so is CC blocking and every other exploit.
but f4 f1/f2 is just lame
but is that cool? I think so , I mean heck this is the same forums that said spawn camping is all part of the game. so I figure this is fair play as well <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Killing yourself is fine. As for spawn camping, it is part of the game, sorry. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
then so is CC blocking and every other exploit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you cannot spawn camp the game will never end.
Ns_hera, cargo.
You're a lone marine. The elevator is up, there's no aliens around. You bump into a cloaked SC and knife it.
A few seconds later a cloak fade apears out of nowhere and swipes out at you.
Apparently panicked, you wigglewalk your way to the elevator and push the call button.
The fade, thinking he's going to get an easy kill, blinks after you thrashing away.
You're pinned against the wall
The elevator comes down
<b>Both you and the fade are crushed to death.</b>
Pwnage. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Ns_hera, cargo.
You're a lone marine. The elevator is up, there's no aliens around. You bump into a cloaked SC and knife it.
A few seconds later a cloak fade apears out of nowhere and swipes out at you.
Apparently panicked, you wigglewalk your way to the elevator and push the call button.
The fade, thinking he's going to get an easy kill, blinks after you thrashing away.
You're pinned against the wall
The elevator comes down
<b>Both you and the fade are crushed to death.</b>
Pwnage. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have killed many an alien that way. SMASH THEM ALL!