Elementry Kids Forced To Wear Id Tags
reasa
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<div class="IPBDescription">In CA no less</div> <a href='http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000017031341/' target='_blank'>http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000017031341/</a>
I suppose I'm not the only one who finds this disturbing...
California seems to be the breeding ground for the absurd in this country and I can only hope it stays there.
Unfortunately I could see this system catching on its just a bit too much like 1984 for my tastes, not to mention my hate for the public school system.
What do you guys think?
I suppose I'm not the only one who finds this disturbing...
California seems to be the breeding ground for the absurd in this country and I can only hope it stays there.
Unfortunately I could see this system catching on its just a bit too much like 1984 for my tastes, not to mention my hate for the public school system.
What do you guys think?
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Very misleading title.
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Some elementary schools go up to the 8th grade, perhaps that’s the confusion?
Well, back when I was a freshman in HS, we had to wear ID cards. I hated it because I always forgot mine at home, so I racked up probably around 30 hours of dentention from it. Every violation is an instant 2 hours, no matter your excuse, and it was 10 bucks to get a new one. 10 bucks for a plastic card.
I got in a fight and recieved 2 hours detention and a stern warning from a cop, later that year.
It lasted about a month. They soon found out that people would leave them at their desk or "lose" them way too often.
Besides the invasion of privacy issues, unless these things are implanted into each student (I sincerely hope that's never considered an option) there's no way of verifying the accuracy of the devices.
It does make me wonder though, what the %#!@ is going on in our schools that the teachers and administrators can't keep track of their students?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Elementary School officials in Sutter, a rural farming community,<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Some elementary schools go up to the 8th grade, perhaps that’s the confusion? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Regardless, Eighth grade students hardly look like full-grown adults, and I doubt little 4th grade Johnny has the mental capacity to carry out another Columbine.
When does the hurting... stop.
I mean, think of all the poor british kids wearing Uniforms Ohh, the Humanity!
Forget about our own college campuses where everyone has an ID! I mean, our identity is at stake here - Fight the Power! How dare anyone even pretend to want to know my name! I mean, that is why kids invent nick-names, right? - its all about staying out of the system!
Crap, I think I broke the anti-sarcasm law.
I may have gone crazy in school without my few trips to the washroom a day, during which I would take a nice long walk around the building depending on the class. The last thing anyone needs is some fat faced principle keep track of everyone’s movements and yelling at people for "taking the long way" or "staying the lav for to long" it would just make school even more soul crushing then it already is.
It doesn’t take very long to figure out which kids are going to be the ones skipping classes and doing other stupid ****. Not only is this an invasion of privacy and a destruction of civil rights but it also gives teachers an excuse to be lazy.
couldn't have said it any better
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I think kids should be given cool unfiforms like in FFVIII... and get swords and stuff... that'd be cool, course the uniforms would only be used for ceremonial purposes, every day school would be carried out in normal clothes.... execpt you could keep your sword on ya... that'd be cool
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Don't....say....anything......
So, about those ID tags. Pretty scary eh? Dodging teachers in the halls is an art form in my school; leave it be.
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Don't....say....anything......
So, about those ID tags. Pretty scary eh? Dodging teachers in the halls is an art form in my school; leave it be. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
your just jealous cuz you didn't think up the brialliant sword idea first... I mean for reals. would you fight a kid if there was a chance of getting your armed hacked off? I know sure as heck I wouldn't...... well... not over a small thing at least, perhaps dueling over the honor of my fair girlfriend or something... but nothing petty
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If that happened I'd be hacking off everyone's head right off the bat. Seriously.
The ID system...bleh. It's really bad. I'm just thankful it isn't in our school yet. I've seen schools where students wear IDs, and as reasa has said, it gives the teachers an excuse to be lazy. Whenever they spot a student without an ID = detention.
Of course, I have a different problem; the principal walks around <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm just thankful that when it's recess and/or, teachers and students in our school mingle just fine. Apart from a few teachers....
I wouldn't call it going against the grain if nearly all of the people who've gone to school in North America see this as a violation of civil rights. This ID system in itself is probably not that large a threat, but if I had to wear an ID tag all the time that told the principal where I was, I would be reminded every day of some 1984 uber-dictatorship keeping tabs on its citizens. Basically, it's just not something that sits well with most people here. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Really? I've never seen a school here which had ID tags implemented. My university does, yeah, but not normal schools (AFAIK).
Meh, most fears are irrational. The fact that it makes no sense that such an ID tag would be rather uncomfortable doesn't reduce the fact that it <u>will</u> be uncomfortable.
Of course, I don't see how such a system could last very long, if there is one thing you learn in school its how to cheat the system. There will be that guy who figures out how to fool the system into thinking hes somebody else, or two different people, or in one place when hes really in annother. He would help others do the same (or sell his services), it would be nigh useless.
They dont really inforce the rules though. Well they do but only on freshmen or the 9th graders. It makes no sense. As well as the rule to have our shirts tucked into our pants. All these rules are supposed to be for our protection, but how is an ID tag going to save you from some guy carrying a weapon. You dont have an ID tag you're not a student! Wow I couldnt tell from the shot gun he just blasted that jock with.
This brings up the point, what if a student went to first period wearing his id tag. 2 minutes into class he pull out a gun and starts shooting people. How does the ID badge help, its just a pain for both students and teachers.
It <i>might</i> help if the ID tags were bullet proof <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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