I'm Tired Of Big Open Hives And Long Hallways

AvengerXAvengerX Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27459Banned
<div class="IPBDescription">and I'm sick of marines camping</div> NS is a fun game... execpt that it revovles entirely around camping... a marine sits down at one of the many great camping points to choose from.. and just has fun...

I'd like to see some darker maps and less long hallways... I'm sick of NS being so rine favored. its no wonder Aliens get dominated in Comp play
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  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    I'd like to see some darker maps and less long hallways... I'm sick of NS being so rine favored. its no wonder Aliens get dominated in Comp play<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Aliens do not get stomped all the time in competative play. If they ambush and parasite well, use some good teamwork. A chance they have they will says me.
  • FCCFCC Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18218Members
    I have noticed you enjoy complaining about everything that annoys you in a daily game. Your complaints might be more legit if you had some valid propositions to support them.

    Natural Selection involves teamwork and strategy. Teamwork meaning collaborating with your fellow members on goals such as flushing out that camping marine; instead of futilely trying to singlehandledly accomplish the goal. And strategy meaning using reasoning to figure out when to deploy certain tactics that work in certain situations. And if that includes camping, in a long hallway where aliens consistently appear, then develop a strategy to counter it.

    Complain is not a strategy.
  • AvengerXAvengerX Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27459Banned
    yeah it is... look at ghandi he complained a lot, and he liberated south africa from english oppresion...
  • BulletInTehHeadBulletInTehHead Join Date: 2003-11-01 Member: 22214Members
    You have just left me totally incapable of creating a reply.
  • ZephorZephor Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11547Members, Constellation
    edited February 2005
    look what you did chimp.
  • c4tc4t Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20619Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 21 2005, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 21 2005, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah it is... look at ghandi he complained a lot, and he liberated south africa from english oppresion... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    just because you cant skulk and on pubs nobody uses teamwork except the marine team doesnt mean it doesnt work.



    once teamwork is used aliens can be damn good.
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 21 2005, 12:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 21 2005, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NS is a fun game... execpt that it revovles entirely around camping... a marine sits down at one of the many great camping points to choose from.. and just has fun... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you mean cs dont you?
    seriously, ONE marine is no match even for one skilled skulk. two= better. three= no chance. maybe you should start to play WITH your team when joining aliens instead of headless rushing and "rambo" action. deal with it, both teams are completely different in gameplay.
    either you never played in a competative way or you are a member of the worst clan in the ns community when you get "bashed" by marines <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    and there are a lot of maps featuring narrow passages, darker areas, pro alien architecture. and if you arent satisfied with the mod... either start creating pro alien maps or make your own mod.

    what disturbs me the most is the "ns rocks" in your sig unless its meant ironically...
  • MaruchanMaruchan Join Date: 2005-02-16 Member: 41397Banned
    The funny is strong in this thread.
  • RatRat Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11486Members
    been gone for quite some time, and threads like this are comforting to see. nubs still whine about pubs. those who play the game with the same group of people consistently--and have the basis for creating working strategies because of their experience with the same group of people--still ridicule the input of nubs.

    generally:
    pubbing == bad for teamwork
    clan practices/scrims/games == good for teamwork

    pubs+nubs == heartache
    clanners berating nubs == headache

    welcome to ns and every other HL mod. people camp--there's always a secondary route to avoid them, especially on non-linear maps like NS provides. people who do camp either do it effectively and rack up kills or do so ineffectively and die to mobile people who use thought to overcome disadvantage. in either case, one side is not doing its job well--eliminating the other team--and needs to think outside the box.
  • ScrapScrap Join Date: 2005-01-06 Member: 32953Members
    i would like to add that its logical that a human with a gun will find a most suitable place to defend himself so a long corridor is fine.And also if a marine camps in a long corridor you have so frikin many schoises to deal with it a)another route(usually vents) b)another class(go fade or onos <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->) c)upgrades(cloak) d)just dont go and wait.
    in NS mode atleast camping marines wont achive nohting, they will come to you sooner or later.
  • kolokolkolokol Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9166Members
    Don't be too disheartened if you meet the odd super marine. E.g. one guy got 16 0 and that was agaisnt three skulks attacking him at the same time. If you want to kill these guys your gonna need a lerk. If someone is that good then if your a skulk don't even bother. Remember aliens with lame and teamwork can put in a solid defence of their two hives and win desipte super good rambos.
    IMO skulks are ambush units only.
  • amnesiacamnesiac Join Date: 2004-11-03 Member: 32619Members
    edited February 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 21 2005, 12:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 21 2005, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NS is a fun game... execpt that it revovles entirely around camping... a marine sits down at one of the many great camping points to choose from.. and just has fun...

    I'd like to see some darker maps and less long hallways... I'm sick of NS being so rine favored. its no wonder Aliens get dominated in Comp play <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1) Natural Selection does <b>not</b> "revovle entirely around camping..."
    Like mentioned in an above post, NS is a very dynamic game that involves alot more than just "camping"
    2) "I'd like to see some darker maps and less long hallways... "
    Why dont you start mapping? Or better yet, just turn the brightness/contrast down on your monitor, it will make everything more <i>atmospheric</i>
    3) "I'm sick of NS being so rine favored."
    NS is still in the beta stages. The NS team is still working on putting together a build that is first of all <b>fun</b> for both the sides, but at the same time <b>balanced</b> Maybe beta6 will be right up your alley.
    4) "its no wonder Aliens get dominated in Comp play"
    Do you play competitively? It dosen't seem so. Otherwise, you wouldn't have made that comment, or maybe you would have, seeing as how most of your posts make little to no sence.

    Excuse me if i have offended you in anyway, sir.
  • myrigthmyrigth Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13270Members
    Hey Avenger, pass me the crackpipe.
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    I get sick of people posting about having their bad day when playing NS.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 21 2005, 06:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 21 2005, 06:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NS is a fun game... execpt that it revovles entirely around camping... a marine sits down at one of the many great camping points to choose from.. and just has fun...

    I'd like to see some darker maps and less long hallways... I'm sick of NS being so rine favored. its no wonder Aliens get dominated in Comp play <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Then don't attack the marine camping in the hallway. Parasite him, and run and chomp on a node or something. If it's necessary to kill him, rush him from several directions with your teammates.

    Marines are projectile based and aliens are melee based. It's the basics of NS.
  • XtofXtof Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15514Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->(AvengerX @ Feb 21 2005, 06:12 AM)
    yeah it is... look at ghandi he complained a lot, and he liberated south africa from english oppresion... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's a joke right?
  • monopolowamonopolowa Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28839Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Gravity+Feb 21 2005, 02:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Gravity @ Feb 21 2005, 02:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what disturbs me the most is the "ns rocks" in your sig unless its meant ironically... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    heh heh...ironic...
  • pikeypikey Join Date: 2003-06-16 Member: 17406Members
    edited February 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 21 2005, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 21 2005, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah it is... look at <b>ghandi</b> he complained a lot, and he liberated <b>south africa from english oppresion</b>... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    oh wow.. this is gold..
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-pikey+Feb 21 2005, 07:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pikey @ Feb 21 2005, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 21 2005, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 21 2005, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah it is... look at <b>ghandi</b> he complained a lot, and he liberated <b>south africa</b> from english oppresion... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    oh wow.. this is gold.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's nice that the man knows what he's talking about.
  • Minstrel_KnightMinstrel_Knight The truth and nothing but the truth... Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9562Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Gravity+Feb 21 2005, 02:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Gravity @ Feb 21 2005, 02:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Seriously, ONE marine is no match even for one skilled skulk. two= better. three= no chance.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> what?
  • kavasakavasa Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11889Members, Constellation
    Minstrel - maybe he's talking about a properly executed ambush?

    And gandhi's work was nothing compared to Mandela's struggle in India.
  • tjosantjosan Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16374Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-kavasa+Feb 21 2005, 02:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kavasa @ Feb 21 2005, 02:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And gandhi's work was nothing compared to Mandela's struggle in India. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    >_>

    Another joke?
  • FirewaterFirewater Balance Expert Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10690Members, Constellation
    edited February 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 21 2005, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 21 2005, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah it is... look at ghandi he complained a lot, and he liberated south africa from english oppresion... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ghandi also organized hunger strikes and nonviolent strikes.

    Are you prepared to stop playing NS until you get your way? Are you prepared to get others to do the same?

    No and No.


    Your complaints will solve nothing, especially when they just take your OWN experiences, and not anythings else into consideration

    Thanks!

    Oh yeah and Ghandi liberated India, not South Africa. Someone needs a little more schooling, and a little less complaining <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    edited February 2005
    Hey guys this is great, now let's compare the gorge to the civil rights movement, and the onos to the united nations, and the fade to catholicism!

    Avenger... this is your second thread (argueably) related to (spawn) camping. Honestly dude, just find a new server if your having this much trouble... it really isn't that hard.
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    [QUOTE] >_>

    Another joke?[QUOTE]
    Nope keep dreaming...

    Seriously though, in any game, you should have a strategy build around your advantages as a character. Taking Dawn Of War as a example. Space Marines just crush people at a higher tech level, and have heavy infantry as their standard. Chaos are just a slightly different variation of the marines, but don't rely too much on tech. Orks are just plain numbers, but the Eldar are different. They're almost like the Khaara, in which they are all about teamwork, and different specialised units. If you charge in with the Eldar, you are going to get licked. If you charge in as an alien, you will get licked. All games, and in real life, you need to work your advantages to your benefit. If you use etamwork, and hit and run tactics as an alien, you will have a much higher chance of surviving than if you do the Rambo thing, and charge headlong into the HMG wall...
  • TheAdjTheAdj He demanded a cool forum title of some type. Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28436Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    If you think NS is won by camping marines, it's time to find another server, lol. Camping marines should lose 100% of the time, because the alien team should be running amok over the entire map while the marines sit around.
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    Indeed, how are you going to stop the onos/fade rush with only 1 res point?
  • kavasakavasa Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11889Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Another joke?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Do you <i>really</i> have to ask?

    P.s.: how can it can be "another" joke if the first one - funny though it may have been - was in earnest?
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->yeah it is... look at ghandi he complained a lot, and he liberated south africa from english oppresion... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-kavasa+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kavasa)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And gandhi's work was nothing compared to Mandela's struggle in India. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    gold.....GOLD! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DrummerDrummer Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26654Members
    easy way to stop a camper...

    parasite him and go take down res nodes and lock down the whole map

    cause although he might camp there for 10 mins, when you come back with a fade, his deadliness will be slightly diminished
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