3d Gaming Glasses?

DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">Has anyone ever heard of these before?</div> I was reading a tigerdirect magazine at my job last night (it was a slow shift thanks to a snowstorm) and I saw an ad for these: <a href='http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=626935&Tab=1&NoMapp=0' target='_blank'>3-D gaming glasses</a>. Quite frankly I was intruiged, and I'm curious if any of you have seen, used or owned a pair. Christmas <i>is</i> coming up ya know.... XD

<img src='http://www.tigerdirect.com/images/SkuImages/gallery/large/E128-1002-g.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

They also apprently come in a wireless version.

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  • Status_QuoStatus_Quo Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25749Members
    Er, what do they do exactly? Make you look cool at LAN-parties?
  • ScribblesScribbles Join Date: 2003-11-05 Member: 22323Members
    Simulates 3D by alternatingly closing the glasses really fast. I've seen them before, even got to wear a pair at some convention.

    It's sort of cool, but the software needs to support it as well.
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    3D glasses are such an..... OOOOOOOOOOLD product, it's not even funny... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    According to the website they do come with software.


    And 3-D glasses may be old, buy how about <i>gaming</i> 3-D glasses.... XD
  • ScribblesScribbles Join Date: 2003-11-05 Member: 22323Members
    I doubt you'd be able to play it with NS though. The principle of those glasses is that the screen shifts from the left to the right really fast (if the program supports those glasses). Then, because the glasses switch closed/open according to the speed at which the screen shifts, it appears in 3D.

    Think about it. If it was widely supported, everyone would have them.
    I know noone who has a pair of those glasses.

    They are <b>teh lose</b>.
  • TheDestroyerTheDestroyer Tooobah Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18123Members, Constellation
    3D glasses....pfft...

    I just cross my eyes or put on a pair of blue n reds. It gets the job done.
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    I've tried something similar for about 15 minutes. I was playing Crazy Taxi. It was quite fun but the weird dizzy effect you get after taking them off (or I did at least) is even better <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SkinnYSkinnY Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7500Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-from the site+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (from the site)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The E-D ® glasses instantly convert virtually all of your existing PC video game titles into true 3-D.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    well... it says all... that must include HL (and mods <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    No wonder Gordon Freeman has such accuracy.
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Nov 15 2004, 12:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Nov 15 2004, 12:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And 3-D glasses may be old, buy how about <i>gaming</i> 3-D glasses.... XD <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Take Shattered Steel, for example, which is a fairly old game (mech shooter), and it supports 3-D glasses.

    Descent supported them too, if I'm not mistaken.
  • Bo_SelectaBo_Selecta Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9374Members, Constellation
    Virtual Reality!
    The cyberfuture is now<i>!!!</i> On the Information Superhighway!
    I've tried those things in, like.. 96, 97 or something
    It really sucked back then and the whole fad died out pretty soon...

    But with modern computers, who knows, this this could be the next piece of hardware (like the introduction of the soundcard) you can't do without.. (Doom3 or HL2 in real 3d... *drools* )
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited November 2004
    this are just regular shutter glasses...their drivers supporting every game that is able to render with direct x´s direct 3d

    you need a fast graphics card, because it have to calculate 2 pics per frame for every eye, and a monitor with a refresh rate of 120 or higher hertz.. because its the "low" refresh rate that makes you dizzy with shutter glasses. you need a monitor that can provide 60 or more hertz for every eye (60x2=120) .. 60 hertz is still ugly ..
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    edited November 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-RPG_Jssmfulhud+Nov 14 2004, 05:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RPG_Jssmfulhud @ Nov 14 2004, 05:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 3D glasses are such an..... OOOOOOOOOOLD product, it's not even funny... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed. I have an old looking glass game (has a win95 [3.1?] installer but runs in dos with VESA) called Terra Nova that supports such things. And I'm sure that they've been around longer than that.
  • 0blique0blique Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16477Members
    edited November 2004
    Can someone explain this to me- I'm not quite sure how this works. Does it just alternate which eyes can see the screen? If it did, than how would that make it look 3-d? Or does it change what's displayed on screen when each eye is open? And if it does that, that how can it be compatible with every game (I don't think they're used so much that that many poeple would add support for them)? And wouldn't it drop your frame rate by half?

    Nevermind- it appears that I missed a few posts.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Nov 14 2004, 05:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Nov 14 2004, 05:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this are just regular shutter glasses...their drivers supporting every game that is able to render with direct x´s direct 3d

    you need a fast graphics card, because it have to calculate 2 pics per frame for every eye, and a monitor with a refresh rate of 120 or higher hertz.. because its the "low" refresh rate that makes you dizzy with shutter glasses. you need a monitor that can provide 60 or more hertz for every eye (60x2=120) .. 60 hertz is still ugly .. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I get a rock solid 99 in NS with my laptop (HL's locked maximum) - 120 should be possible. ^_^
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    I know that the original Decent supported 3D glasses; in fact, I remeber hearing that if you put the game into 3D mode without the glasses plugged in, all it does it create a split-screen effect on the screen. Theoretically, if you could get your left eye to see only the left pane and vice versa, you would be seeing in 3D.

    I couldn't do it, even with a cardboard divider <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited November 2004
    ive played terra nova and descent with my old VFX-hmd <img src='http://www.computery.ru/upgrade1/numbers/015/imgs/vfx.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />


    descent makes you sick
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Nov 14 2004, 06:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Nov 14 2004, 06:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> descent makes you sick <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Great game though. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-0blique+Nov 14 2004, 06:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (0blique @ Nov 14 2004, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can someone explain this to me- I'm not quite sure how this works. Does it just alternate which eyes can see the screen? If it did, than how would that make it look 3-d? Or does it change what's displayed on screen when each eye is open? And if it does that, that how can it be compatible with every game (I don't think they're used so much that that many poeple would add support for them)? And wouldn't it drop your frame rate by half? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ok..it works like that,
    the driver can get the depth informations of a direct 3d rendered scene, and corrects the perspective for the left eye to the left..and for the right eye to the right.

    now it displays this calculated frame on the display..first for the left eye..then for the right eye.


    when it displays the image for the right eye, the glass on the left eye turns black. when the display shows the image for the left eye, the glass on the right side turns black.

    and this happens helluva fast. depends on your settings, every eye is getting shut 60 times per second , so the specified image can be seen by the specified eye.

    you have also to provide your aproximated distance between your eyes to the driver..so he can correct the distance right..otherwise you get sick

    o_+

    +_o

    +_o

    if you look at the screen without glasses, you can just see a strange double image, ecause the perspective change happens that fast.
    crosshairs in ego shooters getting useless, it looks like a cross floating in front of you, but you can better guess distances.. very handy for throwing grenades
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    edited November 2004
    I paid about $20 for drivers that would support glasses like these:
    <img src='http://www.hwextreme.com/reviews/misc/wicked3d/images/2sm.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    They (obviously) distorted the color a bit. But more importantly they cut the framerate of all games down to a little less than half the normal, and sprites aren't supported in the same way as things that use regular 3D polygons.

    Translation: playing a slideshow with no crosshair. Ouch. Turned out to be horrible for gaming, <i>amazing</i> for the MilkDrop Winamp visualization (which would've supported the glasses even without the $20 I paid for the special drivers).
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited November 2004
    ive got 3rd party gforce drivers once...and it got a checkbox for such red blue 3d glasses (anaglyph glasses).. i just cant remeber wich drivers.. maybe it was one of those tweak tools...yeah.. it was a tweak tool i think.
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited November 2004
    <a href='http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/20101' target='_blank'>nvidia anaglyph driver with laser pointer</a>
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