What Were You Guys Thinking When You Made The Maps

VashVash Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8333Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">theyre all so a dark o_o</div> It's just wrong...i can barely see anything in almost every map. As a Fade with full carapace upgrade i almost got knifed by a marine because i couldnt see him. What was your logic in making every map so dark -_-
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  • MooMoo_the_SnowCowMooMoo_the_SnowCow Join Date: 2002-08-03 Member: 1057Members
    Try turning your gamma or monitor brightness up because for me the maps arent that dark. oh and Hi vash!!
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  • VashVash Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8333Members
    the brightness ingame and my monitor brightness are both at full o_o i even put the contrast at full too...maybe i need a new monitor
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  • FrictioNFrictioN Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7211Members
    sounds about it!
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  • AcrobadAcrobad Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1779Members
    This brings me to another question: Whenever I start Natural Selection it's normal... but once I get in game, the gamma of my whole monitor goes up by like a whole bunch... the contrast were so much stronger and it hurts the eyes if I'm not in game, when I'm in the menu or back to desktop...

    It's not pretty... is there a possible fix for this?
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  • LancerEvoXLancerEvoX Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2277Members
    happens to me too. i have a tnt2, and to fix it, i rightclick on teh desktop, goto properities, settings, advanced, then i would click on color correction and it would fix the gamma settings. thats how i solve it.
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  • CreamystewCreamystew Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7188Members
    Are you high?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> The maps are to BRIGHT....
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  • CatgirlCatgirl Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5741Members
    It's almost like we all have different monitors or something.

    Crazy.
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  • HobbesHobbes Join Date: 2002-03-17 Member: 328Members
    Different monitors? But...but...that would give us...different opinions? How would we tell who's right?
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  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    It's all about... atmosphere, if the maps are to a point in which they are unplayable to an obvious extent, run the True Moniter For Opitmal Gamma test real fast. I mean, serisouly, would you want an ambiant lighted room in NS? These aren't normal maps, they put you in the mood...
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I have heard of people having extremely dark monitors when playing NS; I would suggest making sure all of your drivers are completely up to date.

    The way NS is *supposed* to function, there *is* a gamma increase that can be seen if you alt-tab while NS is running (or if NS crashes for some reason without resetting your gamma, which I have never had happen in 1.0). This allows for a greater contrast between lights and darks in-game - darker shadows, while not letting the entire map be dark (like some of the original AvP maps).

    Like I said, you might try upgrading all your drivers and see if it fixes the problem; it should *not* be unplayably dark.
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  • DeadlyFreezeDeadlyFreeze Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6915Members
    I've noticed a similar problem, when I go in-game and then come back out to the menu the gamma is really high for some reason, then when I exit the gamma will go back down to what I had it at normaly. Im using a geforce 4 MX 420 with the latest drivers for windows ME. It must have something to do with the game...
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  • WolfWingsWolfWings NS_Nancy Resurrectionist Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4416Members
    Something I've noticed about Half-Life in general...

    It fights with your video-card's gamma correction, hard-core, but caps it's own out at 3.0, ditto with it's glare-reduction.

    Either go download and install PowerStrip, or try this:
    texgamma 1.0
    lightgamma 1.0
    gamma 1.6
    brightness 1.6

    This resets the texture and lighting gamma to 1.0, which is actually darker than the default settings of 2.0 and 2.5, but it removes the conflict with a video-card's own gamma correction settings, allowing gamma to work as most are used to, and brightness you can vary to find what's comfortable with the in-game video settings.

    Also, for software mode, the original settings are very well-tuned. Ditto for cards that run in 16-bit texture mode, but if you run with 32-bit mode, this may well help. For me, some of the Ready Rooms were too dark to navigate before I made this change on my Radeon 9000.
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  • DiscobirdDiscobird Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7489Members
    <!--QuoteBegin---Vash-+Nov 14 2002, 10:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-Vash- @ Nov 14 2002, 10:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As a Fade with full carapace upgrade i almost got knifed by a marine because i couldnt see him. What was your logic in making every map so dark -_-<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Obviously, it was done to give knife-wielding marines a better chance against Fades. Y'know, game balance and all.
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  • AcrobadAcrobad Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1779Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--coil+Nov 14 2002, 02:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Nov 14 2002, 02:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have heard of people having extremely dark monitors when playing NS; I would suggest making sure all of your drivers are completely up to date.

    The way NS is *supposed* to function, there *is* a gamma increase that can be seen if you alt-tab while NS is running (or if NS crashes for some reason without resetting your gamma, which I have never had happen in 1.0). This allows for a greater contrast between lights and darks in-game - darker shadows, while not letting the entire map be dark (like some of the original AvP maps).

    Like I said, you might try upgrading all your drivers and see if it fixes the problem; it should *not* be unplayably dark.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'll quote coil's post again because it explains everything.

    Thank you for the answer. I never knew it was supposed to be intentional <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MobayMobay Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6986Members
    Here's what u need to solve the problem u need a program called 3Deep It will and can set the correct gamma and brightness setings in games...

    I got my copy with my Geforce TI4200
    Works werry nice...

    U can also try thies commands ingame

    Brightness = well just set it to 100
    gamma = 10 i think if not set it to 100 too
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  • ShawnDShawnD Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7827Members
    edited November 2002
    the maps are not dark at all, they are like DOD maps sort of. a bit dark but you can still see stuff. the maps themselves are VERY dark but the game mod really does turn the gama up like some guy said. when i shrink to desktop everything is all bright and lacking color somewhat but in the game everything looks perfectly fine.

    hey dude, is this what you see in the game? if this picture is what you see, your monitor is just not capable of handling the gama.
    <a href='http://shawnserver0.tripod.com/screenshots/flash.html' target='_blank'>http://shawnserver0.tripod.com/screenshots/flash.html</a>

    just click it to take some bandwidth anyway <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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