Source Sdk Released!

The_Real_NemThe_Real_Nem Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10900Members
edited November 2004 in Mapping Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">(Partially that is.)</div> For those of you who didn't notice it in your Steam 'Games' menu, the Source SDK has been partially released. The release contains mapping/modeling/texturing tools but no modding tools or documentation (yet).

Check it out <a href='http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=news&id=340' target='_blank'>here</a>.

Edit: On a side note, I've created some shinny new Source specifications for Batch Compiler. Run Batch Compiler's automatic update to get them.

Nem
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  • antyanty Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13143Members
    but you need to own a source game to download it.
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    There's already a thread about this in Off-topic <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members
    Yes, but this is where it should really be. Seeing as, at the moment, all you can do is map. Right? D:
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-Bijiy+Nov 6 2004, 12:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Nov 6 2004, 12:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, but this is where it should really be. Seeing as, at the moment, all you can do is map. Right? D: <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's model samples and the model compiler is included too.
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  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    This is the best thing i've heard all week, and noone else seems to share that excitement. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+Nov 6 2004, 04:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Nov 6 2004, 04:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bijiy+Nov 6 2004, 12:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Nov 6 2004, 12:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, but this is where it should really be. Seeing as, at the moment, all you can do is map. Right? D: <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's model samples and the model compiler is included too. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pfft, you and your logic.
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  • KradKrad Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30914Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-anty+Nov 6 2004, 04:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (anty @ Nov 6 2004, 04:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> but you need to own a source game to download it.
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    Ooh, ooh, look!!!

    <a href='http://dev.valve-erc.com/index.php?area=documents&document%5B%5D=103378972982381500&action=view' target='_blank'>http://dev.valve-erc.com/index.php?area=do...500&action=view</a>
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  • oOTOooOTOo Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15401Members
    edited November 2004
    Krad > <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>To view and comment on current site documents (todo list, change log, feature concepts) click here to login as to the ddr account</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • KradKrad Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30914Members
    Is that what you got by clicking on the link???
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  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    me 2
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  • KradKrad Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30914Members
    lol... it didn't do that for me... w/e. If anybody wants it, just PM me...
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  • oOTOooOTOo Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15401Members
    Thx Krad but as i couldn't click the link i have no idea what you talk about <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->


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  • KradKrad Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30914Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-oOTOo+Nov 6 2004, 10:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (oOTOo @ Nov 6 2004, 10:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thx Krad but as i couldn't click the link i have no idea what you talk about <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo--> oOTOo <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The SDK of course.
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  • GruntGrunt Join Date: 2004-09-03 Member: 31245Members
    Did anyone get all the example maps that were supposed to be included with Hammer, or just de_cbbl?
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  • HyperionHyperion Hyperion2010 Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21477Members
    Later today i might post some pictures of some ported NS textures... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    So, we might see what NS:S could look like.... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    Its a damn shame the editor is so damn buggy, and that your texture values reset after you're done applying them.
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  • BulletHeadBulletHead Join Date: 2004-07-22 Member: 30049Members
    Plz tell me you're JOKING Recoup! They ALL reset???
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  • HyperionHyperion Hyperion2010 Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21477Members
    make sure your mouse dosnt leave the box for the texture editing, otherwise they will reset
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  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Hyperion2010+Nov 6 2004, 09:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hyperion2010 @ Nov 6 2004, 09:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> make sure your mouse dosnt leave the box for the texture editing, otherwise they will reset <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This needs to be fixed; it's probably my only real hate of the current Hammer.
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  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    here is what I do:

    enter the values (width, length, position, rotation, etc) and hit "Apply All" and click on the brush. It plasters the texture on it, but all the values in the texture box reset. Bye bye.
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  • The_Real_NemThe_Real_Nem Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10900Members
    No wonder HL2 took so long, their editing software is all buggy as hell.
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  • oOTOooOTOo Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15401Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Krad+Nov 6 2004, 05:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Krad @ Nov 6 2004, 05:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-oOTOo+Nov 6 2004, 10:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (oOTOo @ Nov 6 2004, 10:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thx Krad but as i couldn't click the link i have no idea what you talk about  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The SDK of course. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ah ok, i thought about it but i was told that it was not possible to transfer SDK through another via than Steam. Hoax ? Well thx for your proposal anyway, i don't get cs:source at the moment so it will be useless for me <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->


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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Yes the new VHE is buggy, it'll get better, though.

    ~ DarkATi
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  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    i think its doing pretty good so far considering its a "editor for a game thats not even out"
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  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Nov 7 2004, 03:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Nov 7 2004, 03:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i think its doing pretty good so far considering its a "editor for a game thats not even out" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    but it is an program based on a well working, debugged, optimized map editor. it would be understandable if there were any problems with the new features, assigning physics and surface properties to objects for example.
    but problems with texturing? ok, then we start right back with worldcraft 2.0 where texture alignment was the hell cause of the missing "top, bottom, left, right, center"-buttons.
    thats unforgiveable <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    I'm having fun with the editor, though <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+Nov 7 2004, 11:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Nov 7 2004, 11:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm having fun with the editor, though <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Me too, and thanks to Steam's nature all we have to do is send Valve an email asking them kindly to fix this texture issue and it'll be done.
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  • Vahn_PaktuVahn_Paktu Join Date: 2002-10-28 Member: 1666Members, Constellation
    I really cool feature that is in Hammer 4 but I haven't found yet is the ability to have special textures where you can "rub" off the top layer and reveal a different texture underneath. For NS:S all we have to do is rub off some infestation(or rub in some) instead of having a bunch of different textures.
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-Vahn_Paktu+Nov 9 2004, 05:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vahn_Paktu @ Nov 9 2004, 05:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I really cool feature that is in Hammer 4 but I haven't found yet is the ability to have special textures where you can "rub" off the top layer and reveal a different texture underneath. For NS:S all we have to do is rub off some infestation(or rub in some) instead of having a bunch of different textures. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href='http://www.snarkpit.com/editing.php?page=tutorials&id=113' target='_blank'>You mean this?</a>
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  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    Shame that feature is not functional in hammer ATM. It is also pretty limited as to what you can do because you can only use blend materials and there is only one alternative texture that you can paint on (ie you rub off the texture to reveal another one as someone said).
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