<!--QuoteBegin-Rat12321+Nov 4 2004, 12:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat12321 @ Nov 4 2004, 12:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> know what id do just to **** her off?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I love when people make comments like this and then immediately say "I am not bashing..." Buck up, you are bashing. You have a preference simple as that. Too bad your narrow minded though.
Edit: Well it seems that some people are allowed to flame others ( "little kiddie consoles" ) and get away with it because they put an asinine disclaimer after it. But if anyone calls them on the carpet about it they are "watched, heavily, by me" and get their "status here" threatened. So there is a good chance after this post you won't be seeing me around here anymore. It seems some people can dish it out but you can't express yourself in return, so be on your guard.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
!kb TheMom it's you're not your.
besides if she is a mom she should have exquisite grammar <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah they make you take a test before you can have a child... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(God If only they did... then Eugenics would be a reality!)
<!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 01:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 01:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm... now if only there were a way to harness that power. Then I would rise to such greatness as CWAG or EEK. Oh wait... I don't want to rise to that kind of greatness. Perhaps just such greatness as Liku, with the tandem ability to post single statement posts 12 times a day and yet seem to all onlookers to be some kind of a lurker who just came out to make a quick statement. <i>Yeeeessss, that would be power enough for me.</i> [...] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you think you'd automatically get the hair as well?
<!--QuoteBegin-marce+Nov 4 2004, 12:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (marce @ Nov 4 2004, 12:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 01:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 01:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm... now if only there were a way to harness that power. Then I would rise to such greatness as CWAG or EEK. Oh wait... I don't want to rise to that kind of greatness. Perhaps just such greatness as Liku, with the tandem ability to post single statement posts 12 times a day and yet seem to all onlookers to be some kind of a lurker who just came out to make a quick statement. <i>Yeeeessss, that would be power enough for me.</i> [...] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you think you'd automatically get the hair as well? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I think the hair is, in fact, Liku's secret weapon. No one else can handle the awesome power of the hair.
<!--QuoteBegin-marce+Nov 4 2004, 12:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (marce @ Nov 4 2004, 12:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 01:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 01:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm... now if only there were a way to harness that power. Then I would rise to such greatness as CWAG or EEK. Oh wait... I don't want to rise to that kind of greatness. Perhaps just such greatness as Liku, with the tandem ability to post single statement posts 12 times a day and yet seem to all onlookers to be some kind of a lurker who just came out to make a quick statement. <i>Yeeeessss, that would be power enough for me.</i> [...] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you think you'd automatically get the hair as well? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I hope not <img src='http://swiftspear.0x01a4.com/Img/Emotes/toungelik.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 12:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 12:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Gadzuko+Nov 3 2004, 11:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Nov 3 2004, 11:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 11:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 11:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Nov 3 2004, 11:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Nov 3 2004, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 11:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 11:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So... When do we sacrifice Forlorn? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> As soon as possible, God willing...
BTW, who was going to bring the alter? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I vote CForrester, I hear U-Goths have some pretty bad*** altars. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You'd have to do the ceremony at night, though, because U-Goths don't surface until sunset. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> LOL I totally forgot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Bwahahaha. Thanks for the laugh, guys, I've been in a horrible mood lately and you've cheered me up. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
What's a u-goth?
(Coincidentally, I do prefer the night over the day...)
<!--QuoteBegin-Gadzuko+Nov 4 2004, 12:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Nov 4 2004, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-marce+Nov 4 2004, 12:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (marce @ Nov 4 2004, 12:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 01:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 01:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm... now if only there were a way to harness that power. Then I would rise to such greatness as CWAG or EEK. Oh wait... I don't want to rise to that kind of greatness. Perhaps just such greatness as Liku, with the tandem ability to post single statement posts 12 times a day and yet seem to all onlookers to be some kind of a lurker who just came out to make a quick statement. <i>Yeeeessss, that would be power enough for me.</i> [...] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you think you'd automatically get the hair as well? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think the hair is, in fact, Liku's secret weapon. No one else can handle the awesome power of the hair.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ohnoes here I go. Arise! Byproduct of my overactive mind;
Who knows what kind of untold, ancient powers it holds. In the days of Eld, it was thought that such was the mark of one who could summon great mechanical demons to their side. This was before the razing of the Rizon IRC server, whose channels young Cold-NiTe frequented, by DDOSers. And thus before his descent to madness. In a parable older than time immemorial, a gigantic round faced Jermannik Cyclopean Cold-Hearted Robot known only as Nem0 was brought forth, with a <s>Powerlevel</s> Postcount nearing ten thousand, brought through the aether by the will of the Hair alone. Immediately after, the Great Bannination began...
--------------- What's a U-Goth? <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83590&st=15&hl=u-goth' target='_blank'>Only a Term coined by Esuna of course.</a>
i ran klchat which is the kazaa lite help room for well over 18 months... as the owner... i recently quit.. cos it plain sucked...
i mod in the way that makes server admins angry. i.e a clone botter script kiddie comes along and demands respect cos they can flood the server... hmmm !kick lamer12yearold nubje
so they come back saying ooh fear me or ill drop the server
!kick lamer12 consider yourself feared.
yeah so then the server admins (higher ups) will moan at you for baiting users.. most of the high high up people are ****.. they want to maintain calm and control... **** that... if some little freaking cretin is acting up just hit ban say bye bye ****... and be done with it.
no need for all the polotics and ****.. its like if you were being bullied in real life... what you would sit there and take it or smack that silly **** right in the mouth... dont take no crap from nobody...
<!--QuoteBegin-Hibame+Nov 4 2004, 11:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hibame @ Nov 4 2004, 11:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just tell her to stop before you count it has personal harasment and that could result in her bananation (is that even a word?) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ...bananating the countryside! Bananating the peasants! Bananating all the peoples and their thatched-roof cottages! <b>Thatched-roof cottages!</b>
...and the Quanuaght comes in the niiiiiiiiiiiight!
AllUrHiveRblong2usBy Your Powers Combined...Join Date: 2002-12-20Member: 11244Members
If you're moderator for a forum where the denizens of said forum don't take care of harrasing lame-wads for you, then you are a moderator for a sucky forum and you should set it on fire and leave.
<!--QuoteBegin-coil+Nov 4 2004, 06:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Nov 4 2004, 06:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 3 2004, 11:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 3 2004, 11:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-coil+Nov 3 2004, 10:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Nov 3 2004, 10:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Does your mod team have a private forum for discussion? Have out about it with them, see what their opinions are.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So... <i>The truth is out!</i> There really <b>is</b> a subforum devoted to moderators where they can spam relentlessly. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> One?
There are fourteen forums that I can see that a standard Member cannot see (including subforums). And there are a few more that even *I* don't have access to. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Could you please name the ones you can see? It wouldn't do any harm, would it? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Nov 4 2004, 05:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Nov 4 2004, 05:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you're moderator for a forum where the denizens of said forum don't take care of harrasing lame-wads for you, then you are a moderator for a sucky forum and you should set it on fire and leave. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> awesome
BTW, who was going to bring the alter? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I vote CForrester, I hear U-Goths have some pretty bad*** altars. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You'd have to do the ceremony at night, though, because U-Goths don't surface until sunset. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> LOL I totally forgot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Bwahahaha. Thanks for the laugh, guys, I've been in a horrible mood lately and you've cheered me up. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
What's a u-goth?
(Coincidentally, I do prefer the night over the day...) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83590&hl=goth' target='_blank'>This thread</a> should clear things up a little. U-Goth is making fun at the fact that a certain member with the IQ of ~3.7 decided to make some sort of "verbal assault" toward me, evidently forgetting that he suffers from having the spelling and grammatical skills of a small can of tuna.
Check the second page for the illustration. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Well "she" plainly bashes you, which is clearly an offense solely because it's aimed at you, not some 3rd party object (like 'kiddie consoles' or what). Editing to make further fun of you, however indirect, is still an offense, and you should tell her to take some Riddilin. Don't see anyone screwing around with a cop, do you?
Remember: forums are private property and free speech only exists at the expense of whatever admins or mods are allowing. That's it. If she thinks she can be an all powerful member with a bigger e-phallus than you, tell her that she can knock it off before you take disciplinary action.
Also, you need to be in a position where the other mods/admins respect your decision and will support you in it. If they don't, then you lose respect from all members and you might as well leave the boards today.
Remember man, you are in charge. I'm all about free speech, but personal attacks against a mod is unacceptable. Forums are a benevolent dictatorship. If said member doesn't like it, she can "Buck up" and leave. Rules are rules, and attacking a mod or admin on a personal level in the open is a "no no."
Or, you could always stoop to the level she's at and take her down. She's trying to have bigger balls than you. Playing the intellectually superior admin isn't going to get you anywhere. Either use your authority and discipline her or take her down in a rebuttal post. Take the attack home, but don't cross lines yourself.
Personally, I am moderator on a couple of community forums, and I must say... that I LOVE it... I love moderating <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
that's just my strange me but I actually enjoy moderating, even if it makes me as the bad Big Brother...
100% correct, let her bash you away so her ego grows even more...
no, you don't back down when you are correct and have authority.
edit: this is not to say you deal with it directly, I agree with other suggestions that you hand it off to another mod to remove the chance of a biased decision. If other mods start insulting you over it, then maybe you should consider the quality of the forums and your place in them.
The couple of times I've been moderator (some positions of which I was actually voted into by the board users themselves =o), I've found it best to ignore the fact you're a moderator at all. Just try and handle things amicably without mod powers; keep the 'powa!!!' for knocking out ad-spam and locking spam or flame threads that have just gone too far.
I can't comment on your situation because I'm too lazy to look it all up but if a respected member of the community decides to go rogue for some reason there's not much you can do unless you stand higher than them in people's estimates. If you're both well respected most people will leave you two to your lil power struggle, if you're regarded with more esteem than your foe people will step in for you and help silence the troublemaker =3
Like coil said, you're not alone in the world of moderating so if you're unsure of a decision for any reason have a chatter with your fellow mods or better yet; the board owner if possible ^^
In your particular case I'd actually consult the other mods for a perspective on the situation; not what to do per se, but where you actually stand. They might think you're overreacting or they might agree with you =o Either way having another mod reverse or disagree with your decision can spell only more trouble; it makes you look bad and sullies your precious rep. When you're a mod reputation is everything; it might be a 'dictatorship' but with enough people against you, you'll find yourself or your board assassinated quickly enough =P
It helps if they like you but at the end of the day all that really matters is that people think you're 'fair'. Few will cry out against a judgement that seems considered without any obvious bias and follows the rules set <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm starting to regret resetting my post count. ;p
<span style='font-size:6pt;line-height:100%'><i><b>edit:</b></i></span> To add something... "useful" to this conversation..
It sounds like the other mods you're working with are more worried about their own image than how the boards are run. They dont seem to like to enforce the rules or back up fellow moderators, or communicate a lot. <i>This</i> is a big issue too, its not always with the members of the forums. If you argue over the rules or override eachothers authority constantly (spam thread.. locking then got reopened) then I dont think your a member of a particularly well run forum. Ask all the mods their opinion on this, and post it back here, is what I would do. We cant help you unless we really know what you're working with. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I've been a mod myself before (for a counterstrike used-to-exist clan forum, A41, about two.. three years ago) and I used the same policy that is being used here. Warning, temp, ban. I only moderated, really, once I was over 90% sure my action was right, however. If its a spam thread, lock it. If another mod argues its "not doing any harm" I'd probably not bother to argue with him, but if the thread is getting redecliously out of control in the spammage, contact the mod that re-opened it, state why its going to be locked again, wait for his response, and lock it again so there is no conflicts between eachother. If "TheMom" is getting out of control and bashing non-stop, then dont take your arguement to the boards, but between fellow admins. If they truly respect you for a mod then they'll probably agree. If not then I dont think that forum is somewhere you need to be, just because someones gained respect doesnt mean they can stomp all over other members and expect there to be little to none consiquences.
<!--QuoteBegin-illuminex+Nov 4 2004, 07:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (illuminex @ Nov 4 2004, 07:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Remember: forums are private property and free speech only exists at the expense of whatever admins or mods are allowing. That's it. If she thinks she can be an all powerful member with a bigger e-phallus than you, tell her that she can knock it off before you take disciplinary action. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> This man tells it like it is.
If she is breaking any rules, just post there, saying "The rules go for everyone" or some such. Don't lock it or ban her just yet, see what her reaction is. If I'm understanding this correctly, there was an oversight earlier, ie one of you mods didn't ban someone who was flaming or bashing or whatever. Should this be the case, tell her that it was a mistake, or that the mods aren't omniscient. If she continues to be hostile, you'll just have to ban her. It can't be any worse than banning Forlorn on these forums, unless she normally is peaceful and clearheaded. The rules are for everyone. No exceptions.
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--QuoteBegin-Align+Nov 4 2004, 06:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Nov 4 2004, 06:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If she is breaking any rules, just post there, saying "The rules go for everyone" or some such. Don't lock it or ban her just yet, see what her reaction is. If I'm understanding this correctly, there was an oversight earlier, ie one of you mods didn't ban someone who was flaming or bashing or whatever. Should this be the case, tell her that it was a mistake, or that the mods aren't omniscient. If she continues to be hostile, you'll just have to ban her. It can't be any worse than banning Forlorn on these forums, unless she normally is peaceful and clearheaded. The rules are for everyone. No exceptions. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, thing is, that spam thread was *really* popular, and I figure it was TheMom's way of getting back at me...for something.
Also, I'm known as the dirty mod around there- I'll sometimes break the rules to get the point across. I've never actually done that, but I've definately traipsed on that line- mostly because of other people flaming, and me hitting them hard back without wanting to ban(once again, that word association thing got me really unpopular, so I've been trying to clean up my image). Sadly, doing the right thing doesn't make you look good anymore <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-XxOmgLolNightDragonxXFireStalker+Nov 4 2004, 10:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XxOmgLolNightDragonxXFireStalker @ Nov 4 2004, 10:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well "she" plainly bashes you, which is clearly an offense solely because it's aimed at you, not some 3rd party object (like 'kiddie consoles' or what). Editing to make further fun of you, however indirect, is still an offense, and you should tell her to take some Riddilin. Don't see anyone screwing around with a cop, do you? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Dear Sir,
Recently it has come to my attention that your name is far to long and is breaking the forum tables... please drop any and all references to internet abbrievations and any and all status and star signs, ie **1stPlatoon**JoeBlow, from your name....
BTW, who was going to bring the alter? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I vote CForrester, I hear U-Goths have some pretty bad*** altars. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You'd have to do the ceremony at night, though, because U-Goths don't surface until sunset. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> LOL I totally forgot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Bwahahaha. Thanks for the laugh, guys, I've been in a horrible mood lately and you've cheered me up. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
What's a u-goth?
(Coincidentally, I do prefer the night over the day...) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83590&hl=goth' target='_blank'>This thread</a> should clear things up a little. U-Goth is making fun at the fact that a certain member with the IQ of ~3.7 decided to make some sort of "verbal assault" toward me, evidently forgetting that he suffers from having the spelling and grammatical skills of a small can of tuna.
Check the second page for the illustration. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I already linked him, but you gave him an interesting synopsis of what happened in that thread. But of course you would, since you are <b><span style='color:purple'>U-</span><span style='color:black'>Goth </span><span style='color:red'>Prime</span></b> after all.
You don't want to know the kind of crazy stuff that goes on at the (name omitted) Forums. I don't want to name the board as some of the people involved are still there but it is one of the largest relationship boards on the internet.
It's kind of like the NS forums except EVERYTHING IS PERSONAL as it is a support/selfhelp website. Which means when someone is offended they are really offended.
Moderating that board is nuts sometimes. We even had to go to the police on a few occasions (suicide, threats, etc)
Remeber that he has regeneration ( <a href='http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/44860451801.1.MIRAGE.gif' target='_blank'>http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/im...01.1.MIRAGE.gif</a> ) so be sure sacrifice him on one of these <img src='http://www.abugames.com/i/content/version/39/5thAshnodsAltar.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> ok? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
~ on topic ~
Forum moderation is kinda like teaching where it it mostly unrewarding, a lot of hard work, low pay (if any), and many people respect you. Good moderators are always appreciated even though they may not know it, bad moderators are hated greatly. Don't give up because of a few jerks. I'm sure on the board you have others who respect you greatly but have never told you so. And at worst case scenerio you leave the bad situation. And guess what? You'll still have you friends who care for you in the NS community. We'll still love you Quaunaut! 'Cause, as TAK says it,"you are cool people." <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I love when people make comments like this and then immediately say "I am not bashing..." Buck up, you are bashing. You have a preference simple as that. Too bad your narrow minded though.
Edit: Well it seems that some people are allowed to flame others ( "little kiddie consoles" ) and get away with it because they put an asinine disclaimer after it. But if anyone calls them on the carpet about it they are "watched, heavily, by me" and get their "status here" threatened. So there is a good chance after this post you won't be seeing me around here anymore. It seems some people can dish it out but you can't express yourself in return, so be on your guard.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
!kb TheMom it's you're not your.
besides if she is a mom she should have exquisite grammar <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah they make you take a test before you can have a child... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(God If only they did... then Eugenics would be a reality!)
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Do you think you'd automatically get the hair as well?
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Do you think you'd automatically get the hair as well? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think the hair is, in fact, Liku's secret weapon. No one else can handle the awesome power of the hair.
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Do you think you'd automatically get the hair as well? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I hope not <img src='http://swiftspear.0x01a4.com/Img/Emotes/toungelik.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
As soon as possible, God willing...
BTW, who was going to bring the alter? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I vote CForrester, I hear U-Goths have some pretty bad*** altars. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You'd have to do the ceremony at night, though, because U-Goths don't surface until sunset. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOL I totally forgot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bwahahaha. Thanks for the laugh, guys, I've been in a horrible mood lately and you've cheered me up. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
What's a u-goth?
(Coincidentally, I do prefer the night over the day...)
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Do you think you'd automatically get the hair as well? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think the hair is, in fact, Liku's secret weapon. No one else can handle the awesome power of the hair.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ohnoes here I go. Arise! Byproduct of my overactive mind;
Who knows what kind of untold, ancient powers it holds. In the days of Eld, it was thought that such was the mark of one who could summon great mechanical demons to their side. This was before the razing of the Rizon IRC server, whose channels young Cold-NiTe frequented, by DDOSers. And thus before his descent to madness. In a parable older than time immemorial, a gigantic round faced Jermannik Cyclopean Cold-Hearted Robot known only as Nem0 was brought forth, with a <s>Powerlevel</s> Postcount nearing ten thousand, brought through the aether by the will of the Hair alone. Immediately after, the Great Bannination began...
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What's a U-Goth? <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83590&st=15&hl=u-goth' target='_blank'>Only a Term coined by Esuna of course.</a>
i ran klchat which is the kazaa lite help room for well over 18 months... as the owner... i recently quit.. cos it plain sucked...
i mod in the way that makes server admins angry. i.e a clone botter script kiddie comes along and demands respect cos they can flood the server... hmmm !kick lamer12yearold nubje
so they come back saying ooh fear me or ill drop the server
!kick lamer12 consider yourself feared.
yeah so then the server admins (higher ups) will moan at you for baiting users.. most of the high high up people are ****.. they want to maintain calm and control... **** that... if some little freaking cretin is acting up just hit ban say bye bye ****... and be done with it.
no need for all the polotics and ****.. its like if you were being bullied in real life... what you would sit there and take it or smack that silly **** right in the mouth... dont take no crap from nobody...
just my advice...
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...bananating the countryside! Bananating the peasants! Bananating all the peoples and their thatched-roof cottages! <b>Thatched-roof cottages!</b>
...and the Quanuaght comes in the niiiiiiiiiiiight!
*cough* I d'no. Talk to the other mods about it.
So... <i>The truth is out!</i> There really <b>is</b> a subforum devoted to moderators where they can spam relentlessly. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
One?
There are fourteen forums that I can see that a standard Member cannot see (including subforums). And there are a few more that even *I* don't have access to. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Could you please name the ones you can see? It wouldn't do any harm, would it? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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As soon as possible, God willing...
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I vote CForrester, I hear U-Goths have some pretty bad*** altars. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You'd have to do the ceremony at night, though, because U-Goths don't surface until sunset. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOL I totally forgot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bwahahaha. Thanks for the laugh, guys, I've been in a horrible mood lately and you've cheered me up. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
What's a u-goth?
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<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83590&hl=goth' target='_blank'>This thread</a> should clear things up a little. U-Goth is making fun at the fact that a certain member with the IQ of ~3.7 decided to make some sort of "verbal assault" toward me, evidently forgetting that he suffers from having the spelling and grammatical skills of a small can of tuna.
Check the second page for the illustration. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Editing to make further fun of you, however indirect, is still an offense, and you should tell her to take some Riddilin. Don't see anyone screwing around with a cop, do you?
Also, you need to be in a position where the other mods/admins respect your decision and will support you in it. If they don't, then you lose respect from all members and you might as well leave the boards today.
Remember man, you are in charge. I'm all about free speech, but personal attacks against a mod is unacceptable. Forums are a benevolent dictatorship. If said member doesn't like it, she can "Buck up" and leave. Rules are rules, and attacking a mod or admin on a personal level in the open is a "no no."
Or, you could always stoop to the level she's at and take her down. She's trying to have bigger balls than you. Playing the intellectually superior admin isn't going to get you anywhere. Either use your authority and discipline her or take her down in a rebuttal post. Take the attack home, but don't cross lines yourself.
that's just my strange me but I actually enjoy moderating, even if it makes me as the bad Big Brother...
no, you don't back down when you are correct and have authority.
edit: this is not to say you deal with it directly, I agree with other suggestions that you hand it off to another mod to remove the chance of a biased decision. If other mods start insulting you over it, then maybe you should consider the quality of the forums and your place in them.
I can't comment on your situation because I'm too lazy to look it all up but if a respected member of the community decides to go rogue for some reason there's not much you can do unless you stand higher than them in people's estimates. If you're both well respected most people will leave you two to your lil power struggle, if you're regarded with more esteem than your foe people will step in for you and help silence the troublemaker =3
Like coil said, you're not alone in the world of moderating so if you're unsure of a decision for any reason have a chatter with your fellow mods or better yet; the board owner if possible ^^
In your particular case I'd actually consult the other mods for a perspective on the situation; not what to do per se, but where you actually stand. They might think you're overreacting or they might agree with you =o
Either way having another mod reverse or disagree with your decision can spell only more trouble; it makes you look bad and sullies your precious rep. When you're a mod reputation is everything; it might be a 'dictatorship' but with enough people against you, you'll find yourself or your board assassinated quickly enough =P
It helps if they like you but at the end of the day all that really matters is that people think you're 'fair'. Few will cry out against a judgement that seems considered without any obvious bias and follows the rules set <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<span style='font-size:6pt;line-height:100%'><i><b>edit:</b></i></span> To add something... "useful" to this conversation..
It sounds like the other mods you're working with are more worried about their own image than how the boards are run. They dont seem to like to enforce the rules or back up fellow moderators, or communicate a lot. <i>This</i> is a big issue too, its not always with the members of the forums. If you argue over the rules or override eachothers authority constantly (spam thread.. locking then got reopened) then I dont think your a member of a particularly well run forum. Ask all the mods their opinion on this, and post it back here, is what I would do. We cant help you unless we really know what you're working with. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I've been a mod myself before (for a counterstrike used-to-exist clan forum, A41, about two.. three years ago) and I used the same policy that is being used here. Warning, temp, ban. I only moderated, really, once I was over 90% sure my action was right, however. If its a spam thread, lock it. If another mod argues its "not doing any harm" I'd probably not bother to argue with him, but if the thread is getting redecliously out of control in the spammage, contact the mod that re-opened it, state why its going to be locked again, wait for his response, and lock it again so there is no conflicts between eachother. If "TheMom" is getting out of control and bashing non-stop, then dont take your arguement to the boards, but between fellow admins. If they truly respect you for a mod then they'll probably agree. If not then I dont think that forum is somewhere you need to be, just because someones gained respect doesnt mean they can stomp all over other members and expect there to be little to none consiquences.
Its like.. raising children, really. ;p
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This man tells it like it is.
If I'm understanding this correctly, there was an oversight earlier, ie one of you mods didn't ban someone who was flaming or bashing or whatever. Should this be the case, tell her that it was a mistake, or that the mods aren't omniscient. If she continues to be hostile, you'll just have to ban her. It can't be any worse than banning Forlorn on these forums, unless she normally is peaceful and clearheaded.
The rules are for everyone. No exceptions.
If I'm understanding this correctly, there was an oversight earlier, ie one of you mods didn't ban someone who was flaming or bashing or whatever. Should this be the case, tell her that it was a mistake, or that the mods aren't omniscient. If she continues to be hostile, you'll just have to ban her. It can't be any worse than banning Forlorn on these forums, unless she normally is peaceful and clearheaded.
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Well, thing is, that spam thread was *really* popular, and I figure it was TheMom's way of getting back at me...for something.
Also, I'm known as the dirty mod around there- I'll sometimes break the rules to get the point across. I've never actually done that, but I've definately traipsed on that line- mostly because of other people flaming, and me hitting them hard back without wanting to ban(once again, that word association thing got me really unpopular, so I've been trying to clean up my image). Sadly, doing the right thing doesn't make you look good anymore <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Editing to make further fun of you, however indirect, is still an offense, and you should tell her to take some Riddilin. Don't see anyone screwing around with a cop, do you? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dear Sir,
Recently it has come to my attention that your name is far to long and is breaking the forum tables... please drop any and all references to internet abbrievations and any and all status and star signs, ie **1stPlatoon**JoeBlow, from your name....
Yours in table viewing goodness.
- Infinitum.
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As soon as possible, God willing...
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I vote CForrester, I hear U-Goths have some pretty bad*** altars. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You'd have to do the ceremony at night, though, because U-Goths don't surface until sunset. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOL I totally forgot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bwahahaha. Thanks for the laugh, guys, I've been in a horrible mood lately and you've cheered me up. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
What's a u-goth?
(Coincidentally, I do prefer the night over the day...) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83590&hl=goth' target='_blank'>This thread</a> should clear things up a little. U-Goth is making fun at the fact that a certain member with the IQ of ~3.7 decided to make some sort of "verbal assault" toward me, evidently forgetting that he suffers from having the spelling and grammatical skills of a small can of tuna.
Check the second page for the illustration. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I already linked him, but you gave him an interesting synopsis of what happened in that thread. But of course you would, since you are <b><span style='color:purple'>U-</span><span style='color:black'>Goth </span><span style='color:red'>Prime</span></b> after all.
It's kind of like the NS forums except EVERYTHING IS PERSONAL as it is a support/selfhelp website. Which means when someone is offended they are really offended.
Moderating that board is nuts sometimes. We even had to go to the police on a few occasions (suicide, threats, etc)
As soon as possible, God willing...
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One word: LOL!
Wort wort wort! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Remeber that he has regeneration ( <a href='http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/44860451801.1.MIRAGE.gif' target='_blank'>http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/im...01.1.MIRAGE.gif</a> ) so be sure sacrifice him on one of these <img src='http://www.abugames.com/i/content/version/39/5thAshnodsAltar.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> ok? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
~ on topic ~
Forum moderation is kinda like teaching where it it mostly unrewarding, a lot of hard work, low pay (if any), and many people respect you. Good moderators are always appreciated even though they may not know it, bad moderators are hated greatly. Don't give up because of a few jerks. I'm sure on the board you have others who respect you greatly but have never told you so. And at worst case scenerio you leave the bad situation. And guess what? You'll still have you friends who care for you in the NS community. We'll still love you Quaunaut! 'Cause, as TAK says it,"you are cool people." <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->