I don't think modellers should be able to vote... I'd automatically vote the model with the best technique even if it looks like crap. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
hmm you can have an ugly model that is really well made, and modelers might like it for that reason, but i don't think people will use an ugly gun just because it is well made... personally, even if something is well made, if it doesn't look good, I probably wouldn't use it...
I don't see any reason really to cut the community out of the voting, we should really have at least <i>some</i> say in who wins
Compile them all into NS and whoever wins a bout of LMS wins the comp <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Oh come on guys, it's such a juicy thought! NATURALLY if the model is well done, the standard of your gaming will be effected! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Anyway, I don't think it should be that difficult to judge <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> I think DJPs weighted idea is a plus point, however instead, just allow all the modellers a weighted vote, and still allow the community to participate- after all, this is happening on a public forum and most of us have checked the progress of this a few times a day ;P
i agree with darkeh i think a judge/jury system would work better but we are going to need to find like 20 modelers that arent in this contest <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Which brings me back to my points of judging should be on looks (foremost), poly waste, then poly count vs detail. (no, i didn't order them in my first statement but these are)
Looks - because it really what people see. Poly waste - unneeded polys is a waste on performance Count vs Detail - because a 2500 poly gun should have a ton of detail, but a 1500 poly gun with a ton of detail is great for performance and you still get the looks.
Maybe allowing the people who have expressed interest and posted in this thread prior to today should be included in having a vote with the modelers. Opening voting up to anyone allows people to have friends who didn't care prior to voting come in and vote for that person.
But I still dont think a judge panel is a good idea, simply because too much say is being placed in the hands of people who may be more interested in other things, or more interested in the layout of vertex than the overall look.
like some of the judges (being modelers) look at how the model was made and how is the poly waste and the rest of the modelers are just regular members of this community thatll judge by looks
if you have a panel of about 20 judges, then it's pretty fair. And aside from that, only twenty people would have the model to judge it. I dont think it's fair to let the public choose who wins, because then it's DIRECTLY on the looks, or for the most part. If you had specific people judging it and they were told what points get what, and so on and so forth.. it just seems to make more sense to me, i mean you dont win anything by just one aspect of something, unless it's a lottery and its obvious that's not what this is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Whatever the decision, I'm willing to remain a neutral party and not submit a model if need-be. I will be suspicious, if we have a panel of 20 people from one of the other forums some of these people post at. I think, if we go the judge route, we should ask that maybe 5 admins from this board, 5 people like me who are willing to judge by whatever guidelines are decided on and be impartial, and 5 regular ns players, at random, that have nothing to do with modeling and skinning.
Why?
5 admins -- there is a reason they are here, they know NS. 5 modeler/meshers -- people who can judge overall on not only looks but the technical level 5 regular players -- because they are who these things are for right?
also -- i think a series of renders for each model, rendered on the same comp, same types of positions, wireframe shots, close-ups on detail areas, and poly count would be smart and fair to everyone. I dont think judging should be on who picked the best material or render setup, or who picked the best angle. I'd even be willing to take the time to put up a temporary site for this contest, with a page for each entrant. Most of us by now know who's model are who's, but admins and regular players wont, therefore, the creators names and names of the models shouldn't be given, only the pictures and information.
If you want this to be a fair contest, make it actually be fair.
I detest the judge system. The person entered this so he could show off some work, and maybe get it meshed. So what if he has a crappy mesh, he shouldn't have to suffer. If the gun looks nice, the mesher can optomize it to his best ability.
I think we should just let everyone vote for whatever reasons. It's going to be in the 3D IE thing, so whoever is voting can see wireframes, and how it looks.
OH and DJPolygon, all models are going to be on a page of 3D views.
I think you skipped over reading half my posts on the main concern being looks, funbags. Thats is the reason that only 5 of the judges would be judging the technical side of the models too.
And thats great if all the models will be in 3D (i would hope since they ARE 3d.) on a page, as long as the same material, lighting, and render setup is done on all of them.
Btw, I'm not entering this contest now, so reguardless, I'm trying to have the most objective view. I dont have anything to gain, but I'd like to see this be fair to everyone (not just the best modelers, and not just for the ones who can make it look the best)
<!--QuoteBegin-funbags+Oct 31 2004, 11:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (funbags @ Oct 31 2004, 11:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I detest the judge system. The person entered this so he could show off some work, and maybe get it meshed. So what if he has a crappy mesh, he shouldn't have to suffer. If the gun looks nice, the mesher can optomize it to his best ability.
I think we should just let everyone vote for whatever reasons. It's going to be in the 3D IE thing, so whoever is voting can see wireframes, and how it looks.
OH and DJPolygon, all models are going to be on a page of 3D views. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Mesh = model in case you didn't know(come on i thought you could model).
Yeah the models will be in 3d obviously. IF we would've gone with renders, they would be similar anyway since everybody's using my technique now. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Darkkiz+Oct 31 2004, 03:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkkiz @ Oct 31 2004, 03:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> IF we would've gone with renders, they would be similar anyway since everybody's using my technique now. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> not just your technique, but it does turn out pretty sexy.
I read your whole post, and I still detest the judge system. Just because a model has a crappy mesh, doesn't mean its a crappy model. If it would be good looking or fun in NS, its a good model. Everybody here is capable of making an informed decision with the flexibility of the 3D view. They can view the wireframes, and assess themselves if it is indeed a crappy mesh, and can view the flat/smooth shade to see if it looks good.
I still have to agree with darkkiz that an open vote is easily manipulated. I also have to support that this is a 'Modeling Contest' and not a 'Who can make the coolest looking thingy Contest'.
Looks are most important, as i've said, but the technical side is also important. On top of that, allowing entrants or open judging results in a biased situation, always. It's why no real contest does so, unless its like the Discovery Biker Build-Off series where they have a couple thousand people voting, and no one know's who's bike is who's.
There is a reason that system doesn't work when there are more than 2 or 3 choices, and a small group of people who have a vested interest (wanting to win the prize) ... Look at the American voting system. Millions of people choose from 2 or 3 choices on each issue, because it rules out the biases that can be held by a small group.
OMG Darkizz, shut your damned mouth. I'm not jealous, I don't like your way of thinking. I think, with so many entries, 20 people is not enough. I think the open public (YOU KNOW, THE ONES WHO WILL USE THE MODEL?) should get a freaking say in who they want to win. If you're so comfertable with your model, and the fact that mine sucks (or something, personally, I think its pwn. gj drake on the concept), then why do you care so much? Are you freaking insecure or something? The jury system can be more easily manipulated. There are far less people to sway in a group of 20 instead a group of all the voters.
So sit back, SUYF and let me voice my freaking opinion without redicule, or gtfo.
Oh, and I dont know about you guys, but I sure as hell don't want ANOTHER mp5 in ns. We already have what..3? This isn't TS.
<!--QuoteBegin-Darkkiz+Oct 31 2004, 03:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkkiz @ Oct 31 2004, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I thought you were jealous when you whined about the extended date. Now i'm certain. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> what the hell are you talking about?
Funabags, you can't be serious. How come you're the only one objecting the extended time? How come you're the only one who wants it to be an open vote? How come you're the only one whining about the TS and DCLSS people posting their models here? Can't you see how ridiculous your posts are?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what the hell are you talking about?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like i said, he's objecting pretty much everything.
<!--QuoteBegin-Darkkiz+Oct 31 2004, 03:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkkiz @ Oct 31 2004, 03:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what the hell are you talking about?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like i said, he's objecting pretty much everything. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> HOW does that have anything to do with being jelous. No please, inform me.
<!--QuoteBegin-BAshh+Oct 31 2004, 11:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BAshh @ Oct 31 2004, 11:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Darkkiz+Oct 31 2004, 03:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkkiz @ Oct 31 2004, 03:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what the hell are you talking about?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like i said, he's objecting pretty much everything. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> HOW does that have anything to do with being jelous. No please, inform me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll let you think about it. I could be alone with my opinion, but you should at least see why i think he's being jealous. If not, then it's not my problem. Just read his posts.
<!--QuoteBegin-Darkkiz+Oct 31 2004, 03:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkkiz @ Oct 31 2004, 03:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Funabags, you can't be serious. How come you're the only one objecting the extended time? How come you're the only one who wants it to be an open vote? How come you're the only one whining about the TS and DCLSS people posting their models here? Can't you see how ridiculous your posts are?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what the hell are you talking about?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like i said, he's objecting pretty much everything. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because I didn't like those ideas? Give me a break.
<!--QuoteBegin-Darkkiz+Oct 31 2004, 03:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkkiz @ Oct 31 2004, 03:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Mesh = model in case you didn't know(come on i thought you could model).
I thought the mesh was the blueprint of the gun that you skin <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Hellspawn-+Nov 1 2004, 12:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-Hellspawn- @ Nov 1 2004, 12:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So we gotta go around saying
"OMG UV-MAP MY MESH" now do we??? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Or you could just say model, but yes.
<!--QuoteBegin-Darkkiz+Oct 31 2004, 04:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkkiz @ Oct 31 2004, 04:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> @Funbags: Not my problem. Just get over it.
<!--QuoteBegin--Hellspawn-+Oct 31 2004, 04:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-Hellspawn- @ Oct 31 2004, 04:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Darkkiz+Oct 31 2004, 03:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkkiz @ Oct 31 2004, 03:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Mesh = model in case you didn't know(come on i thought you could model).
I thought the mesh was the blueprint of the gun that you skin <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> thats slang for UVW map. I have no idea how it orginiated
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'll let you think about it. I could be alone with my opinion, but you should at least see why i think he's being jealous. If not, then it's not my problem. Just read his posts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, i asked you to inform me. Do so please. I have read his posts. I havent read anything close to jealousy
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->jeal?ous ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jls) adj. Fearful or wary of being supplanted; apprehensive of losing affection or position.
Resentful or bitter in rivalry; envious: jealous of the success of others. Inclined to suspect rivalry. Having to do with or arising from feelings of envy, apprehension, or bitterness: jealous thoughts. Vigilant in guarding something: We are jealous of our good name. Intolerant of disloyalty or infidelity; autocratic: a jealous God. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So he's jealous... because he doesnt like the judgement system? or the extention? I personally dont like that the deadline was extended either. It's not something that should ever be done, but i didnt feel like commenting on it; so what that he did?
<!--QuoteBegin-funbags+Nov 1 2004, 12:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (funbags @ Nov 1 2004, 12:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You sir, are bad at that whole arguing thing. gtfo <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Who's arguing? Just shut up before the thread gets locked.
Lets decide on how the judging system is going to work in a MATURE manner. This is a fun contest to showcase some work, not a buisness contract deal. Relax and enjoy the showcase.
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you can have an ugly model that is really well made, and modelers might like it for that reason, but i don't think people will use an ugly gun just because it is well made...
personally, even if something is well made, if it doesn't look good, I probably wouldn't use it...
I don't see any reason really to cut the community out of the voting, we should really have at least <i>some</i> say in who wins
Oh come on guys, it's such a juicy thought! NATURALLY if the model is well done, the standard of your gaming will be effected! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Anyway, I don't think it should be that difficult to judge <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> I think DJPs weighted idea is a plus point, however instead, just allow all the modellers a weighted vote, and still allow the community to participate- after all, this is happening on a public forum and most of us have checked the progress of this a few times a day ;P
Looks - because it really what people see.
Poly waste - unneeded polys is a waste on performance
Count vs Detail - because a 2500 poly gun should have a ton of detail, but a 1500 poly gun with a ton of detail is great for performance and you still get the looks.
Maybe allowing the people who have expressed interest and posted in this thread prior to today should be included in having a vote with the modelers. Opening voting up to anyone allows people to have friends who didn't care prior to voting come in and vote for that person.
But I still dont think a judge panel is a good idea, simply because too much say is being placed in the hands of people who may be more interested in other things, or more interested in the layout of vertex than the overall look.
like some of the judges (being modelers) look at how the model was made and how is the poly waste and the rest of the modelers are just regular members of this community thatll judge by looks
Why?
5 admins -- there is a reason they are here, they know NS.
5 modeler/meshers -- people who can judge overall on not only looks but the technical level
5 regular players -- because they are who these things are for right?
also -- i think a series of renders for each model, rendered on the same comp, same types of positions, wireframe shots, close-ups on detail areas, and poly count would be smart and fair to everyone. I dont think judging should be on who picked the best material or render setup, or who picked the best angle. I'd even be willing to take the time to put up a temporary site for this contest, with a page for each entrant. Most of us by now know who's model are who's, but admins and regular players wont, therefore, the creators names and names of the models shouldn't be given, only the pictures and information.
If you want this to be a fair contest, make it actually be fair.
I think we should just let everyone vote for whatever reasons. It's going to be in the 3D IE thing, so whoever is voting can see wireframes, and how it looks.
OH and DJPolygon, all models are going to be on a page of 3D views.
And thats great if all the models will be in 3D (i would hope since they ARE 3d.) on a page, as long as the same material, lighting, and render setup is done on all of them.
Btw, I'm not entering this contest now, so reguardless, I'm trying to have the most objective view. I dont have anything to gain, but I'd like to see this be fair to everyone (not just the best modelers, and not just for the ones who can make it look the best)
I think we should just let everyone vote for whatever reasons. It's going to be in the 3D IE thing, so whoever is voting can see wireframes, and how it looks.
OH and DJPolygon, all models are going to be on a page of 3D views. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mesh = model in case you didn't know(come on i thought you could model).
Yeah the models will be in 3d obviously. IF we would've gone with renders, they would be similar anyway since everybody's using my technique now. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
not just your technique, but it does turn out pretty sexy.
Looks are most important, as i've said, but the technical side is also important. On top of that, allowing entrants or open judging results in a biased situation, always. It's why no real contest does so, unless its like the Discovery Biker Build-Off series where they have a couple thousand people voting, and no one know's who's bike is who's.
There is a reason that system doesn't work when there are more than 2 or 3 choices, and a small group of people who have a vested interest (wanting to win the prize) ... Look at the American voting system. Millions of people choose from 2 or 3 choices on each issue, because it rules out the biases that can be held by a small group.
So sit back, SUYF and let me voice my freaking opinion without redicule, or gtfo.
Oh, and I dont know about you guys, but I sure as hell don't want ANOTHER mp5 in ns. We already have what..3? This isn't TS.
what the hell are you talking about?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what the hell are you talking about?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like i said, he's objecting pretty much everything.
Like i said, he's objecting pretty much everything. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
HOW does that have anything to do with being jelous. No please, inform me.
Like i said, he's objecting pretty much everything. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
HOW does that have anything to do with being jelous. No please, inform me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll let you think about it. I could be alone with my opinion, but you should at least see why i think he's being jealous. If not, then it's not my problem. Just read his posts.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what the hell are you talking about?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like i said, he's objecting pretty much everything. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because I didn't like those ideas? Give me a break.
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
mesh = model.....
I thought the mesh was the blueprint of the gun that you skin <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Hellspawn+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hellspawn)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mesh = model.....
I thought the mesh was the blueprint of the gun that you skin confused-fix.gif<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're wrong.
"OMG UV-MAP MY MESH" now do we???
"OMG UV-MAP MY MESH" now do we??? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or you could just say model, but yes.
Mesh = Model.
Uv-map = the thing you skin on.
<!--QuoteBegin-Hellspawn+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hellspawn)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mesh = model.....
I thought the mesh was the blueprint of the gun that you skin confused-fix.gif<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Get over...what? The fact that I don't like the idea?
Guys, get over Kerry. Just vote bush because thats the most popular thing to do at the moment.
You sir, are bad at that whole arguing thing. gtfo
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
mesh = model.....
I thought the mesh was the blueprint of the gun that you skin <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
thats slang for UVW map. I have no idea how it orginiated
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'll let you think about it. I could be alone with my opinion, but you should at least see why i think he's being jealous. If not, then it's not my problem. Just read his posts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, i asked you to inform me. Do so please. I have read his posts. I havent read anything close to jealousy
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->jeal?ous ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jls)
adj.
Fearful or wary of being supplanted; apprehensive of losing affection or position.
Resentful or bitter in rivalry; envious: jealous of the success of others.
Inclined to suspect rivalry.
Having to do with or arising from feelings of envy, apprehension, or bitterness: jealous thoughts.
Vigilant in guarding something: We are jealous of our good name.
Intolerant of disloyalty or infidelity; autocratic: a jealous God. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So he's jealous... because he doesnt like the judgement system? or the extention? I personally dont like that the deadline was extended either. It's not something that should ever be done, but i didnt feel like commenting on it; so what that he did?
Who's arguing? Just shut up before the thread gets locked.
Lets decide on how the judging system is going to work in a MATURE manner. This is a fun contest to showcase some work, not a buisness contract deal. Relax and enjoy the showcase.