Projected Time Frame For B6 Release?

snake_docsnake_doc Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15610Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Anyone answer this one ?</div> If anyone (NS TEAM etc) knows when the projected release date of version 6 would be I would be greatly appreciative.
Trying to make a decision about taking one of my servers back to beta 4a due to complaint emails about version 5....
Sorry to take your time up !

Thanks for any reply!
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  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    edited October 2004
    They seem to be in no hurry to release, after all only totally irrelevant things like hitbox code and special fix are in it. So instead of rushing something so totally irrelevant to the competitive scene out the window, majorly important things like hand-grenade pickups after death and another new JP sound (this time it will resemble toasters more) will be added first. This process will take about 6-8 months, at the end of which we anticipate it to still suck **** - but not be quite as bad as the few last minute change to the release client, like a high pitched audosnippet of JarJar binks whenever someone ignites a jetpack or the new map ns_megaaltair, now with lower fps, worse lighting and crappier gameplay.

    Oh, and ns_veil and eclipse still won't be changed. Thats just too much effort.
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  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    edited October 2004
    Well, don't I look stupid. Ignore this pwease <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • NolSinklerNolSinkler On the Clorf Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26560Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-SaltzBad+Oct 14 2004, 02:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SaltzBad @ Oct 14 2004, 02:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They seem to be in no hurry to release, after all only totally irrelevant things like hitbox code and special fix are in it. So instead of rushing something so totally irrelevant to the competitive scene out the window, majorly important things like hand-grenade pickups after death and another new JP sound (this time it will resemble toasters more) will be added first. This process will take about 6-8 months, at the end of which we anticipate it to still suck **** - but not be quite as bad as the few last minute change to the release client, like a high pitched audosnippet of JarJar binks whenever someone ignites a jetpack or the new map ns_megaaltair, now with lower fps, worse lighting and crappier gameplay.

    Oh, and ns_veil and eclipse still won't be changed. Thats just too much effort. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol.

    I expect it will be done as soon as October 25th arives, seeing as it is my birthday, and the NS team cares a lot about me. I am completely confident in the dev team's ability to release a solid balance patch by then <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .

    Oh, and I am thoroughly excited for the new jetpack sound.
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  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-snake_doc+Oct 14 2004, 02:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (snake_doc @ Oct 14 2004, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If anyone (NS TEAM etc) knows when the projected release date of version 6 would be I would be greatly appreciative.
    Trying to make a decision about taking one of my servers back to beta 4a due to complaint emails about version 5....
    Sorry to take your time up !

    Thanks for any reply! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To be generic about the answer, we are currently actively working on NS.
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  • semipsychoticsemipsychotic Join Date: 2003-07-09 Member: 18061Members
    edited October 2004
    <span style='color:red'>When it's done. ™</span>
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  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NolSinkler+Oct 14 2004, 02:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NolSinkler @ Oct 14 2004, 02:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SaltzBad+Oct 14 2004, 02:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SaltzBad @ Oct 14 2004, 02:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They seem to be in no hurry to release, after all only totally irrelevant things like hitbox code and special fix are in it. So instead of rushing something so totally irrelevant to the competitive scene out the window, majorly important things like hand-grenade pickups after death and another new JP sound (this time it will resemble toasters more) will be added first. This process will take about 6-8 months, at the end of which we anticipate it to still suck **** - but not be quite as bad as the few last minute change to the release client, like a high pitched audosnippet of JarJar binks whenever someone ignites a jetpack or the new map ns_megaaltair, now with lower fps, worse lighting and crappier gameplay.

    Oh, and ns_veil and eclipse still won't be changed. Thats just too much effort. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol.

    I expect it will be done as soon as October 25th arives, seeing as it is my birthday, and the NS team cares a lot about me. I am completely confident in the dev team's ability to release a solid balance patch by then <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .

    Oh, and I am thoroughly excited for the new jetpack sound. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My b-day was yesterday.

    The NS team hates meh.

    I cry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    It takes TIME to code out the onos and replace him with a cute pink fuzzy bunny! Relax!
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 14 2004, 01:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 14 2004, 01:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It takes TIME to code out the onos and replace him with a cute pink fuzzy bunny! Relax!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's going into the sig... XD
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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Setting Saltz' highly informed, argumentatively striking, and nonetheless humbly voiced points of criticism aside for a moment, there are some very hefty balance changes in B6's package, and there's pretty much only one way of ensuring they work: Stress testing. We've almost got anything we want to have in the new version coded out - the release date depends largely on how close our idea of how it could work out is to reality. Sadly, few plans survive the first contact between a LMG bullet and a Skulk.
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Oct 14 2004, 01:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Oct 14 2004, 01:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, don't I look stupid. Ignore this pwease <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh come on what you had there before was funny... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Oct 14 2004, 03:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Oct 14 2004, 03:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Oct 14 2004, 01:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Oct 14 2004, 01:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, don't I look stupid. Ignore this pwease  <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh come on what you had there before was funny... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lies and Propaganda.
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  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    very hefty balance changes in B6's package

    omg teh bus <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • NolSinklerNolSinkler On the Clorf Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26560Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    This is great, I love when coding gets done fast and they have a quick release, like the quick release of B5.
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  • typical_skeletontypical_skeleton Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13944Members
    edited October 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Be nice.</span>
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited October 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Thanks. Next time, do me a favor and don't make a post, too.</span>
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  • Al_KaholicAl_Kaholic Join Date: 2004-01-31 Member: 25821Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
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  • typical_skeletontypical_skeleton Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13944Members
    edited October 2004
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  • WitherWither A Bugged Life Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11513Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Oct 14 2004, 09:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Oct 14 2004, 09:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sadly, few plans survive the first contact between a LMG bullet and a Skulk. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Groan.
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  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    edited October 2004
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    Let me help you out here - my (humorously stated) gripe lies largely with the exclusion of a large part of the total developement teams effort in the release clients (the total developement team would include mappers and testers as well as everyone else).

    If for some reason pooping in these peoples faces to you is perfectly justified because these people are unpaid labour, and the end result is hence free of charge, then be my guest. In the meantime I'll so frivolously demand that the output matches all valid efforts made by the team, and not simply have half of it cropped out.
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Oct 14 2004, 02:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Oct 14 2004, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lies and Propaganda. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It made me laugh.... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SpaceMoogle5SpaceMoogle5 Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17643Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited October 2004
    Everyone needs to keep their pance on, the next build is being worked on and is coming along fine, the little things are being ironed out, and a lot of balancing still needs to be done...

    Having that said know this, the PT's are revitalized and bringing the game to the tippy top of its potential. And to even be playtesting in this beta, as a member of the general community is a PRIVILAGE everyone should be thankful to be a part of it at all. NS is a great game and it is only getting better. The dev team is working its lovehandles off to provide us with a full version that will make public and competitive play the best it has ever been. That however takes A LOT of work so please give it just a few more days before tripping about how long it will take.
    <b>
    Remember folks good things come to those who wait... REALLY REALLY BAD THINGS COME TO THOSE LEAK INFO!
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    TTFN

    SM5

    PS
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> + <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> = BARBEQUE TONIGHT!!!1111111
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  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    You mean I wasn't supposed to mention the fact that Gorges can now use Parasites placed by skulks to remote-detonate marines at Hive 3 now?

    Damn.

    - Shockwave

    Oh, and to answer the question.... [/3dRealms] <- You insert the rest.
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  • DrummerDrummer Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26654Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Oct 14 2004, 07:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Oct 14 2004, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You mean I wasn't supposed to mention the fact that Gorges can now use Parasites placed by skulks to remote-detonate marines at Hive 3 now?

    Damn.

    - Shockwave

    Oh, and to answer the question.... [/3dRealms] <- You insert the rest. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    omg, how funny would that be to see?

    "hey comm, can i get a jetpa-"

    BOOM!

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Oct 14 2004, 05:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Oct 14 2004, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Oct 14 2004, 02:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Oct 14 2004, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lies and Propaganda. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It made me laugh.... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lies and Propaganda
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  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Oct 14 2004, 07:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Oct 14 2004, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You mean I wasn't supposed to mention the fact that Gorges can now use Parasites placed by skulks to remote-detonate marines at Hive 3 now? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    FINALLY FLAYRA LISTENED TO MY E-MAILS!
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  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-Marik_Steele+Oct 14 2004, 01:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Oct 14 2004, 01:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-snake_doc+Oct 14 2004, 02:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (snake_doc @ Oct 14 2004, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If anyone (NS TEAM etc) knows when the projected release date of version 6 would be I would be greatly appreciative.
    Trying to make a decision about taking one of my servers back to beta 4a due to complaint emails about version 5....
    Sorry to take your time up !

    Thanks for any reply! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To be generic about the answer, we are currently actively working on NS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Except when joev breaks things.

    <_< >_>

    /me waits for joev to "break" his PT access
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  • Hologram0Hologram0 Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9303Members, Constellation
    As much as the game is free and it is very good game... It doesnt mean its perfect and free from critism...

    Its been several weeks since any offical news from the devs.... despite the fact that there are major issuess with this release that have already been fixed just not released. The devs made this game 1000x better then i could but its still not as good as it could be IMHO.
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  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
    edited October 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Related post nuked.</span>
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  • FiggyFiggy Join Date: 2003-12-01 Member: 23818Members
    edited October 2004
    <span style='color:white'>-10 posts for 'in before lock' spam.</span>
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  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    edited October 2004
    *EDIT* I wrote a tonne of this actually everything under the - and then re-read the original title of the post... So I thought I better answer the question

    To answer the original question, like all software development teams, giving a timeline is difficult because we have no idea how long the testing/balancing of changes will take.. I've also stated that I will NOT release a date unless I'm 100% confident in us reaching that date, and I know Nem agrees with that. We have been late before (B5 cough) and we won't disappoint the fans of NS again. What I can say is the post mentioned below should at least let you know where in the cycle we are, and you should be able to extrapolate a rough idea of where things should fit..

    -
    At this stage of the development "cycle" we are working on getting some things ironed out..

    I did make a minor announcement here: <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83159' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=83159</a>

    That should give you some additional information as to where we are (not that Nem's answer was missing anything)

    As things get finalized and working as we want them to, then expect the amount of information that is released to increase dramatically..

    We want to ensure that when we do post information that it's more than just cosmetic changes and that we get some meat/potatoes items in as well. This way people start having an idea of where the build is going, and I don't get 50 pm's stating "OMG, you are fixing X and Y when this balance issue Z hasn't been looked at???" If I can say "Balance issue Z is being addressed by these fixes/changes, and oh BTW, here are Screenies for X and Y" it really rounds out the news and gives a better overall picture of where the release is headed.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Its been several weeks since any offical news from the devs....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Considering the last big "news" item was the release of B5 (on Sept 3), I'd say a 5 week silence is more than fair.. And when you consider in that time that we not only came up with a plan of action, list of features/fixes, engineered people into new positions and are still making significant dents against that same forementioned list?? All while holding down school or full-time careers, I think we are doing pretty damn well..

    I understand it sucks not seeing anything from me.. I know I am your new drug <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    But hearing "Nothing new, still deciding what's going into the build" for 2 weeks would drive me crazy and is not be helpful at all to you (It didn't take 2 weeks BTW, but it's a valid example). The news post I made today was similar in scope, something to let people know that we hadn't packed up and gone home.. That code has been changed and we are working out the kinks and even that post feels a little empty, and I expect some backlash since it contains no detials..

    Anyway, just my feelings.. Thought I'd share
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