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SadistSadist Join Date: 2004-05-26 Member: 28933Members
<div class="IPBDescription">i undestend you</div> 4 month ago, i have rights to post topics on Russian language in Off-Topic theme.
moders (admins) gives these rights to me.
Так какого ХУЯ вы у меня их убрали?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

ЗЫ sorry for my bad english, I'm from Russia.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    If I remember correctly you were temp suspended for repeatedly opening topics after having them locked.

    if you realy want to try and comunicate on these forums, use babbel fish.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
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    Bit overly prejudice, I agree. It's off-topic after all. :s
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited October 2004
    As far as I know, the forums are english only. They have always been this way. If you want to talk on them, you will have to use english. The moderators can't be expected to know every language that a person might use to communicate here. We have members from all around the world, but when they talk here, they use english. Those are the rules.

    <!--QuoteBegin-BlueNovember+Oct 11 2004, 12:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Oct 11 2004, 12:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Bit overly prejudice, I agree. It's off-topic after all. :s<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not at all sir. Just because I couldn't understand a string of swear words in japanese, or mandarin, or swahili, doesn't mean that people should be free to post it on these forums. We have standards about the kind of words you can use here, and in order to uphold those standards we need to be able to understand what kind of words you are using. If we allowed posts in cherokee and cyrillic, we'd never be able to effectively moderate the forums. Prejudice has nothing to do with it, it's simply a matter of keeping the boards clean.
  • SadistSadist Join Date: 2004-05-26 Member: 28933Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Oct 11 2004, 01:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Oct 11 2004, 01:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If I remember correctly you were temp suspended for repeatedly opening topics after having them locked.

    if you realy want to try and comunicate on these forums, use babbel fish. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it is very difficultly for me to traslate each posts in russian by using dictionary.
    And I want you let me write my messages IN RUSSIAN!!!!!!!!!

    ps We (4 students of MSU) wrote this post about 10 min without dictionary. It's suxx!
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    You could write all the messages you want in Russian: problem is, less than 1% of the forum could read what you say.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 11 2004, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 11 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As far as I know, the forums are english only. They have always been this way. If you want to talk on them, you will have to use english. The moderators can't be expected to know every language that a person might use to communicate here. We have members from all around the world, but when they talk here, they use english. Those are the rules.

    <!--QuoteBegin-BlueNovember+Oct 11 2004, 12:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Oct 11 2004, 12:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Bit overly prejudice, I agree. It's off-topic after all. :s<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not at all sir. Just because I couldn't understand a string of swear words in japanese, or mandarin, or swahili, doesn't mean that people should be free to post it on these forums. We have standards about the kind of words you can use here, and in order to uphold those standards we need to be able to understand what kind of words you are using. If we allowed posts in cherokee and cyrillic, we'd never be able to effectively moderate the forums. Prejudice has nothing to do with it, it's simply a matter of keeping the boards clean. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is the only issue with swearing?
    Well, the number of people able to read it <= the number of people who will be offended.

    Still, you have an equally valid point, and I have to write in english anyway, so I'll agree. (Again. I'm too easily persuaded. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

    These are English boards after all.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    it has nothing to do with the number of people offended, it is simply the rules of the forum, no swearing, and english only (yes that IS a rule)

    <a href='http://babelfish.altavista.com/' target='_blank'>http://babelfish.altavista.com/</a>

    wrie in russian, convert to english, and post.
  • SadistSadist Join Date: 2004-05-26 Member: 28933Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 11 2004, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 11 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As far as I know, the forums are english only. They have always been this way. If you want to talk on them, you will have to use english. The moderators can't be expected to know every language that a person might use to communicate here. We have members from all around the world, but when they talk here, they use english. Those are the rules.
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    It's descrimination by national sign. Isn't it? it's OFF-TOPIC isn't it?
    Maybe I'm wrong?! Russin people want to communication in this forum!!!
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    I can't remember much Russian. Spanish pushed it out of my head.

    Используйте website babelfish.com Оно переведет от русского к английской языку и задней части. Я не говорю русского но я использовал это webpage для того чтобы перевести его для меня.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    sadist, this is not a free place, it is a privetly owned forum. They can make any rules they like.

    If you want a Russian NS comunity, start one. Otherwise find somewhere that you can abide by the rules. Rather simple isnt it?
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-BlueNovember+Oct 11 2004, 12:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Oct 11 2004, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is the only issue with swearing?
    Well, the number of people able to read it <= the number of people who will be offended.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's not simply swearing, it's any number of things. You may be telling sick jokes. You may be talking about warez. You may be doing drug deals. You may be plotting sedition. You may be insulting my mummy. I don't know, because I can't read your post. My language skills are limited primarily to english, with a general understanding of german, a smattering of hebrew, and a pinch of spanish from a long long time ago. There's no way around it. We're not going to find a moderator who can speak all of the hundreds of languages spoken on this earth. The forums are limited to english, because that is the language that the majority of the users speak, and it's also the language that is accepted around the world as a common ground for interlingual communications. (It may not be the best choice, but that's a topic for another thread -- feel free to start it if you wish)
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    weird that the guy doesnt know english and yet can use words like 'ps' and 'suxx', both of which require a pretty good understanding of the language.

    maybe you could learn the language? english is pretty darn popular world-wide, and a free website that gives you access to english conversations would be very handy for learning it. i wish i had similar for any language ive studied!
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    We have users from Germany and Korea and Canada, yet they all stick to English as a means of communicating.

    As Bob has said, it's nothing against anybody or their language, its just an attempt to regulate content of the board. The same rules that apply to english language posts should apply to all posts, the problem is there's no way the moderators here could enforce the rules if they have no idea what the message says. For all we know you could be posting porn, warez, and instructions for building a bomb. This is a lunatic worst-case view of course, but it shows the point.

    Also, the head admin of this forum is German, so I doubt he'll give you much slack in this regard either...
  • SpetsnazSpetsnaz Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24761Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Oct 11 2004, 07:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Oct 11 2004, 07:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also, the head admin of this forum is German, so I doubt he'll give you much slack in this regard either... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    your dam right there!


    [offtopic] ooo hive! <!--emo&::hive::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/hive5.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='hive5.gif' /><!--endemo--> [/offtopic]
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited October 2004
    Hes been told before, if i remember correctly 3 times before and in many topics each time.

    Use a translation website to convert what you type in russian to english and then to read it translate it from english to russian.


    Missed the other two topics hes done today too.

    I say we burn him again hes had 3 chances, and be told politly each time to talk in english, hes been told where translation websites are but he refueses.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-[_+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([_)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sadist,Oct 11 2004, 01:31 PM] <!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Oct 11 2004, 01:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Oct 11 2004, 01:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If I remember correctly you were temp suspended for repeatedly opening topics after having them locked.

    if you realy want to try and comunicate on these forums, use babbel fish. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it is very difficultly for me to traslate each posts in russian by using dictionary.
    And I want you let me write my messages IN RUSSIAN!!!!!!!!!

    ps We (4 students of MSU) wrote this post about 10 min without dictionary. It's suxx! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's legible, and if you practice you'll eventually get better with it so that you wont need a dictionary quite so much. Up until that "suxx" part. I'm not sure what's up with that...

    Or, as stated before, you could just create a new Russian NS forum somewhere. Throw it up there and I'll go try to practice my Russian over there.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Your angry about your freedom here, but what you don't understand is that you are imposing your rules on us by doing that.

    Who wants to go translate every post you make? I doubt you want to bother translating our posts, but 1 person is not greater than the rest of the forum.
  • SadistSadist Join Date: 2004-05-26 Member: 28933Members
    edited October 2004
    We have a command, which is trained in the course of year, and we want to play with the command from the foreign countries and to learn our possibilities at the level of peace.
  • SadistSadist Join Date: 2004-05-26 Member: 28933Members
    With whom it is possible to arrange TP?? and to how much this is complicated to make??
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    dig russeren hvis du kan læse det her så gir jeg en kage

    now that was danish and you understand that do you? i doubt many will and nor will many understand your russian so please go to a russian forum if you cant english
  • SadistSadist Join Date: 2004-05-26 Member: 28933Members
    2 moderators: We could create the Russian site NS. you can soak with the billets of site???
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    edited October 2004
    -> First section for the benefit of forum members.

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    <!--QuoteBegin-Sadist+Oct 12 2004, 09:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sadist @ Oct 12 2004, 09:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We have a command, which is trained in the course of year, and we want to play with the command from the foreign countries and to learn our possibilities at the level of peace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm going to have a go at working out what you mean by this... I have two theories, I'll post the most likely one first.

    Theory 1: (With regards to your clan and matches)
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We have a commander (team/clan?) and have practiced for a year... we wish to play against commanders (teams/clans?) from other countries in "friendly" matches to test our abilities.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Theory 2 is almost the same... except you wish to practice by playing under other commanders.
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    -> [_]Sadist

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    Could you clarify what you mean by "TP"?

    <!--QuoteBegin-Sadist+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sadist)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you can soak with the billets of site???<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm afraid you'll have to try that one again... I can't begin to work out what that means.
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  • SadistSadist Join Date: 2004-05-26 Member: 28933Members
    there is Team, which wants with someone to be slain. PS: TP-Team PLAY
  • SadistSadist Join Date: 2004-05-26 Member: 28933Members
    you can share with billets WEB site???
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    edited October 2004
    The Natural Selection "Team Play" scene isn't very strong at the moment, there may an international league which you can play in, but I know little about this sort of thing, others can probably tell you more.

    For unranked friendly games you could probably arrange "TP's" on IRC, many teams have rooms where members stay and a challenge can be made... however you will have difficulty speaking to them there as well, so it may be hard to arrange a game.
    You could also visit the forum of a team you want to play against, leave a message there in the best english you can and they may be able to arrange a game.

    I have tried to keep this post simple as possible to help you.

    -> to forum members: can anyone suggest such a league to them?
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sadist+Oct 12 2004, 09:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sadist @ Oct 12 2004, 09:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you can share with billets WEB site??? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm sorry, it is difficult to understand.

    You wish to be "hosted"? To have a place on the forum (or website) of your own?
  • SadistSadist Join Date: 2004-05-26 Member: 28933Members
    I want to create Russian web site, aid with the billets is necessary to me.
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Who/what is billets?
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    It sounds like hosting to me... he wants to create a russian community website... but would need help with the hosting.

    Usually the creator or other members of the community would provide money for which to support the website hosting, depending on the website popularity you may be able to take donations or put up advertising to fund it later. Until there there are a few places which will host a website for free, you can probably find them on <a href='http://www.google.ru/' target='_blank'>google</a>. Before that though have a look to see if any russian NS forums already exist, you may be able to join those instead.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>язык к конвертеру языка</span></b>: <a href='http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr' target='_blank'>BabbleFish</a>

    (sorry guys, it just says "language to language converter" babblefished)
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