Cant See Aliens As Commander

Dart · November 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">Im blind i tell ya</div> When playing as commander and i have motion sensor upgrade i cant see blips of moving aliens. Plus also when my marines can see aliens in view i cant see them on the map, im able to see alien structures just not the aliens themselfs.

Is this a bug or is the game supposed to be this way?

Grey_Ghost · November 2002

I suffer from this very same thing. I know that other commanders see aliens just fine, but I only see marines firing at nothing. I can see alien structures just fine, but no aliens. I'd like to know what is going on.

Grey_Ghost

Unknown · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grey_Ghost @ Nov 10 2002, 06:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I suffer from this very same thing. I know that other commanders see aliens just fine, but I only see marines firing at nothing. I can see alien structures just fine, but no aliens. I'd like to know what is going on.

Grey_Ghost</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Hey Grey_Ghost That was some good Cargo bay hive taking over in ns_nothing. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Well anyways.....

For the few times that I commanded, I get the same problem.... I only see marines shooting at nothing. I can see the buildings just fine but no aliens.... Any solutions?

Dunsby · November 2002

Same problem here, but sometimes i see one running past or something.

Tomodachi · November 2002

Dito and I still can't see them aliens even when I use Scanner Sweep. I can only see their structures.

Plaguebearer · November 2002

I, too, have this problem.

Necro · November 2002

perhaps your not supposed 2 see them?

also INGAME when your not commanding and you got motion tracking i don't see aliens. the motion tracking sprite goes on the hive but thats it.

Plaguebearer · November 2002

Yes, you're supposed to, Nec. As commanders, we should be able to see any alien a marine can see, and we should also see them as mobile blips on the minimap.

I don't.

whiskas · November 2002

yur not supposed to see them

Grey_Ghost · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (whiskas @ Nov 11 2002, 04:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>yur not supposed to see them</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
The manual clearly states that the commander should see any aliens the marines see, or what aliens are around them rather.

I have had one commander follow aliens around with attack waypoint orders even, but just the one commander so far.

Grey_Ghost

DarkSim2 · November 2002

i can see them sometimes, but only when a marien is near by an the alien is in a crevas or a crack. once i even cliked on it to aleart my guys where he was cause he was on the celling. So it is possible to see them, but for the most part it doesent work. its prolly a bug

JynxDaddy · November 2002

I have never seen a alien on radar , nor a hive or anything! not even as comm, only alien thing i get with marines, is seeing them when they are in front of me

Terr · November 2002

I have hardly EVER seen any alien entity when in commander mode, except for the occasional sensor sweep revealing something. It's very patchy.

BitchSL4P · November 2002

Hmmm... this is a new one. So, you don't see the aliens in the commander map AT ALL?

I suggest trying a game with one or two others where the alien and the marine stand side by side to confirm this.

I *know* I don't have this problem. I see aliens both on the minimap as little red moving dots and in the commander view...

-Slappy

Thansal · November 2002

This is a known problem, I am not sure exactly what it stemms from however I think it might have something to do with the fact that Flayra played around ALOT with the ability to see invis things

The known bugs with this are:
1) motion traking does not show up
2) even with scaner sweeps and marines giving visual feed back the comander never sees squat
3) it does not effect the aliens at all, not sure why

however the drawinvisible (a server variable) comand will let comanders/marines see the motion traking, it also permanantly puts all marines on hive sight (so far as I have tested)

GobyWan · November 2002

I have the same problem, I can't see the aliens attacking at all, I see marines firing and buildings but I never see the aliens as commander. This seems to be widespread.

Dunsby · November 2002

Is it a open gl problem or something? I use open gl, do people that use software have this problem?

Backslider · December 2002

!BUMP!

ME TOO, this has to be the worst bug ever. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

Great game though, keep up the good work.

System Specs.
GeForce2MX (Running OpenGL) (either res)
P4 1.4GHZ
128MB RDRam
WinXP Pro
Newest Nvidia drivers

Please help, commanding is too hard this way.

joev · December 2002

This is a server specific problem on the Linux server.

At a guess (actually not a guess at all.. I'm positive) you guys who are seeing this problem are seeing it on Linux based servers.

F.o.R's server is win32 and hence the reason that Slappy doesn't see it.

A simple test is for one (or all) of you to jump on to F.o.R underworld (I'm sure slappy can supply the IP) and see if you still have this problem. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

You'll also notice that the particle effects sometimes act mungy on Linux based server (e.g. the stream of 'smoke' from Res Nodes is much reduced versus Win32 servers).

It's a known problem and presumably being worked on. (Flayra has had his rest now so I've got my whip ready... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'>)

joev.

Backslider · December 2002

Thank you very much. Now to find a win server so I can practice Comm. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

FireStorm · December 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silent But Violent @ Nov 15 2002, 10:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Is it a open gl problem or something? I use open gl, do people that use software have this problem?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

No. The problem is that HL is not supposed to have entities visible only for some players and you have to cheat with that. Maybe the dev team did something wrong (delta.lst <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'>)

Cant See Aliens As Commander

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