Naacp- Bush Speech Leaked

illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Wish he'd gone.</div> <a href='http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001759.html' target='_blank'>Here's the link.</a>

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->July 13, 2004
LEAK: Planned Bush Speech to NAACP Revealed
(2004-07-13) -- Before President George Bush made his final decision not to speak at this week's convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), he and his speech-writing staff prepared a draft of an address that he would have delivered if pressure from the media had become so intense that he had no other choice.

Here is a partial transcript of that speech, which was accidentally emailed to 1.5 million GOP supporters last night...

PRESIDENT BUSH:
"My fellow Americans, members of the NAACP, Senator Boxer. It's an honor to be with you tonight representing the political party that introduced the 1957 Civil Rights Act--which at the time was the first civil rights legislation in 82 years. Although Senator Lyndon Johnson, the Democrat from my home state, and Senator John F. Kennedy, the Democrat from my opponent's home state, both worked to prevent the full implementation of the 1957 Act, it formed the foundation upon which the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voter Rights Act still stand."

"I also represent the political party whose Congressional delegation voted overwhelmingly for the Civil Rights Act of 1964--82 percent of Republican Senators voted 'yes' and 80 percent of Republican House members approved--helping to overcome the weak support by the opposition party where only 69 percent of Democrat Senators and 61 percent of Democrat House members voted for the Act. "

"I'm also delighted to come as an ambassador from the party of Abraham Lincoln, whose emancipation proclamation officially put an end to slavery in America."

"I bring greetings from Secretary of State Colin Powell and National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, who would be here tonight if they weren't so busy working to ensure peace and freedom for the oppressed people of the world. I also come to you on behalf of the thousands of men and women of color who defend freedom worldwide every day as part of our United States armed forces."

"I have come tonight to declare a new emancipation for people of color. By the authority vested in me as President of all the people of the United States I declare that all Americans are free to work for a living, free to seek education, free to worship God, free to live under the same laws to which we all submit as a peace-loving people."

"The new emancipation proclamation also states that all Americans are free to be lazy, ignorant and godless without expecting the government to come to their aid. All Americans are also free to violate our laws--after which they will receive the just consequences of their exercise of that freedom.

"The new emancipation proclamation hereby sets free those who have been held in captivity by the vain hope that government is their beneficent master. It breaks the chains that have bound men, women and children in a cycle of dependency that leads to despair."

"I declare that all Americans are free from the tyranny of special interest bosses who have become wealthy by telling others that they can't succeed in our free society. From this day forth, let every American exercise his freedom from politicians who profit by trading men's votes for men's souls, and who become rich and powerful by creating programs which keep legions of our citizens poor and powerless."

"Thank you for allowing me to address this august society of freedom-loving people tonight. I know that you join me in celebrating this new birth of freedom. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America."

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Imagine the fireworks. Man, I wish he'd said it.
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  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    Oh god...if only...
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have come tonight to declare a new emancipation for people of color. By the authority vested in me as President of all the people of the United States I declare that all Americans are free to work for a living, free to seek education, <b>free to worship God</b>, free to live under the same laws to which we all submit as a peace-loving people.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The new emancipation proclamation also states that all Americans are free to be lazy, ignorant <b>and godless</b> without expecting the government to come to their aid. All Americans are also free to violate our laws--after which they will receive the just consequences of their exercise of that freedom.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    So... believing in God == good. Not believing in God == bad, so don't expect any aid <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seriously, those two bits have no purpose in this speach, they mearly serve to show the administration's bias. Other than that it was alright.
  • camO_ocamO_o Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28028Members
    Satire makes poor discussion material. Move to OT before someone takes this speech seriously please.
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-camO.o+Sep 18 2004, 01:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (camO.o @ Sep 18 2004, 01:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Satire makes poor discussion material. Move to OT before someone takes this speech seriously please. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Too late. Man, I should really learn to click links...
  • BathroomMonkeyBathroomMonkey Feces-hurling Monkey Boy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 78Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited September 2004
    Too bad both <a href='http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/19/powell.race/' target='_blank'>Powell</a> and <a href='http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/20/politics/main537203.shtml' target='_blank'>Rice</a> support policies like affirmative action, which are in stark contrast to the obvious message here (though, simply because they're black, the author has dutifully trotted them out as lawn jockey-esque representatives of <b>his</b> ideals. <i>Classy</i>).

    Yep-- guess people are free to be lazy and ignorant (Note: 'Ignorant' is different than 'stupid') without the government coming to their aid, even if they're in charge of it.

    Edit, after further thought and an actual, out-loud chuckle:
    Good lord, I am sorry, but I <i>really</i> would enjoy the sheer comic irony of Bush delivering a speech with this message of self-reliance and free will.

    [sarcasm]
    I mean, he's certainly a guy who has <i>never</i> relied on government intervention or special treatment-- not to get him into two ivy league universities, not to vault him over more qualified candidates into the National Guard, not to funnel investment into his failing businesses, not to tell the SEC to back off on its investigation of him, and not to allow him to claim eminent domain on others' rightfully held propery for his own personal profit. (And a large number of other examples could follow here)
    [/sarcasm]

    ". . . . So, in summary, you should not expect special treatment based on the color of your skin. It should only be based on who your Daddy is."

    That speech would have about as much resonance and sincerity as Jonathon Walker Lindh reading the 'Pledge of Allegience', or Hitler singing 'Imagine'.

    <b>Give me a break</b>.

    One moment . . . . AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    /composing self

    Ahem. Carry on.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    A+ speech, I agreed with every single point in it, even if it was just a fake.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Sep 18 2004, 01:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Sep 18 2004, 01:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have come tonight to declare a new emancipation for people of color. By the authority vested in me as President of all the people of the United States I declare that all Americans are free to work for a living, free to seek education, <b>free to worship God</b>, free to live under the same laws to which we all submit as a peace-loving people.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The new emancipation proclamation also states that all Americans are free to be lazy, ignorant <b>and godless</b> without expecting the government to come to their aid. All Americans are also free to violate our laws--after which they will receive the just consequences of their exercise of that freedom.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    So... believing in God == good. Not believing in God == bad, so don't expect any aid <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seriously, those two bits have no purpose in this speach, they mearly serve to show the administration's bias. Other than that it was alright. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OH NOES!!!! He said GOD! In a political speech! Where the majority of American's believe in god! What a crappy political move!
  • DarkDudeDarkDude Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19088Members
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Sep 18 2004, 09:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Sep 18 2004, 09:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OH NOES!!!!  He said GOD!  In a political speech!  Where the majority of American's believe in god!  What a crappy political move! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->lazy, ignorant and <b>godless</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ahem, even though this speech is fake, I think many Atheists (like myself) would take offense at being included with the ignorant and lazy people of America. Not to mention it would be saying that anyone who doesn't believe in God is a bad person, and they shouldn't look to the government for help.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-DarkDude+Sep 18 2004, 10:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkDude @ Sep 18 2004, 10:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Sep 18 2004, 09:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Sep 18 2004, 09:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OH NOES!!!!  He said GOD!  In a political speech!  Where the majority of American's believe in god!  What a crappy political move! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    [q]lazy, ignorant and <b>godless</b>[/q]

    Ahem, even though this speech is fake, I think many Atheists (like myself) would take offense at being included with the ignorant and lazy people of America. Not to mention it would be saying that anyone who doesn't believe in God is a bad person, and they shouldn't look to the government for help. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First of all, being godless as being associated as something bad - not a bad political move.


    Second of all, godless can also mean without morals.
  • DarkDudeDarkDude Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19088Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Sep 18 2004, 10:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Sep 18 2004, 10:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> First of all, being godless as being associated as something bad - not a bad political move.


    Second of all, godless can also mean without morals. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1.) Which is exactly my point, why is being godless something bad?

    2.) Then he would've been better off saying something along the lines of "... and those without morals" than flat out saying "godless", as that would lead many to assume he was talking about Atheists and Agnostics.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-DarkDude+Sep 18 2004, 10:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkDude @ Sep 18 2004, 10:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Sep 18 2004, 10:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Sep 18 2004, 10:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> First of all, being godless as being associated as something bad - not a bad political move.


    Second of all, godless can also mean without morals. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1.) Which is exactly my point, why is being godless something bad?

    2.) Then he would've been better off saying something along the lines of "... and those without morals" than flat out saying "godless", as that would lead many to assume he was talking about Atheists and Agnostics. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you hadn't noticed, this speech wasn't about being politcally correct - the idea was to offend and stur up crap. Godless is a perfect word for this. I'm not the most religous of people, but godless fits in perfectly in the entire flow of the speech.
  • camO_ocamO_o Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28028Members
    The entire basis for my atheist beliefs is the fact that people like Forlorn exist.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    edited September 2004
    wait, set it straight, is it real or not?
    because that "lazy, ignorant and godless" comment pisses me off. not only does it lump godless people with the lazy and ignorant, but it mentions later that they will get no federal aid... either suggesting that godless citizens are second-class citizens, or that federal aid <b>will</b> go to godly citizens, or both. knowing bush, probably both. then again, if it's a fake speech, never mind.

    I'd also like to mention that the republican party of way-back-when is practically the <b>opposite</b> of what it is now, in terms of social issues... he clearly forgot to mention that party alliegance in the South changed in the late 20th century from democratic to republican, but underlying social biases did not change... so the repub party's base is ACTUALLY the same as those who voted for the biased democratic senators he criticized in his speech.

    (ie republican party of today is filled with the racist southern white vote that used to go democratic at the time those acts were passed.)

    edit: ah, it is fake. oh well, a real person did have that mindset.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-camO.o+Sep 18 2004, 10:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (camO.o @ Sep 18 2004, 10:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The entire basis for my atheist beliefs is the fact that people like Forlorn exist. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    /me pokes fun of people who base their choice of belief systems off of other people in the world... when you manage to get through all the stupidity and hypocrisy, let me know (no offense Forlorn, not pointing fingers).

    C'mon people, the speech was funny, as well as being the sort of campaign speech that would **** off the NAACP *and* win the hearts of people as well <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • StakhanovStakhanov Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14448Members
    I thought this speech was an other PR team failure or just a bunch of freudian slips from Bush , it reflects what he actually thinks imho.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A+ speech, I agreed with every single point in it, even if it was just a fake.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I hope it is sarcasm...
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Stakhanov+Sep 19 2004, 07:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stakhanov @ Sep 19 2004, 07:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I thought this speech was an other PR team failure or just a bunch of freudian slips from Bush , it reflects what he actually thinks imho.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A+ speech, I agreed with every single point in it, even if it was just a fake.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I hope it is sarcasm... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    of course it was sarcastic.

    [/sarcasm]
  • camO_ocamO_o Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28028Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Sep 19 2004, 12:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Sep 19 2004, 12:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-camO.o+Sep 18 2004, 10:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (camO.o @ Sep 18 2004, 10:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The entire basis for my atheist beliefs is the fact that people like Forlorn exist. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    /me pokes fun of people who base their choice of belief systems off of other people in the world... when you manage to get through all the stupidity and hypocrisy, let me know (no offense Forlorn, not pointing fingers).

    C'mon people, the speech was funny, as well as being the sort of campaign speech that would **** off the NAACP *and* win the hearts of people as well <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You don't understand. Retardedness is the work of the devil.
  • PerditionPerdition Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29692Members
    I actually agree with this speech. Too bad it isnt real.

    And if this was material produced by or approved by Bush, who gives a flying squirrel? He is a man living in the United States of America, and here we have freedom of speech. If he steps on your toes in exercising those rights granted to him, go eff yourself!
  • camO_ocamO_o Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28028Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Perdition Flamethrower+Sep 19 2004, 08:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Perdition Flamethrower @ Sep 19 2004, 08:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I actually agree with this speech. Too bad it isnt real.

    And if this was material produced by or approved by Bush, who gives a flying squirrel? He is a man living in the United States of America, and here we have freedom of speech. If he steps on your toes in exercising those rights granted to him, go eff yourself!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Do the words "campaign" and "president" mean anything to you?
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    If you don't like what he says, don't vote for him.

    Behold, the system works!

    Besides:

    god·less Audio pronunciation of "godless" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gdls)
    adj.

    1. Recognizing or worshiping no god.
    2. Wicked, impious, or immoral.

    Take it as the second if you don't want to get offended. Unless you're just looking for any excuse to jump on him, in which case, he's just a fool claiming faith in an outdated outmoded belief system, pay him no heed, and go on denying your maker.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-Legionnaired+Sep 19 2004, 11:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Sep 19 2004, 11:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...pay him no heed, and go on denying your maker. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Deny my mother and father?
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    ^ ooh.
    If I took "Bush's" usage of the word to mean the first definition (athiest), I would indeed be offended. But I'm also offended by the actual existence of the second definition. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    technically lots of things can be your 'god' - money, power, the new game coming out next month, Flayra...so it's not as if being 'godless' refers specifically to the judeo-christian one.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-camO.o+Sep 19 2004, 08:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (camO.o @ Sep 19 2004, 08:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    You don't understand. Retardedness is the work of the devil. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    [offtopic] do you believe in a 'the devil'? [/offtopic]

    *edit* crud, srry for doublepost
  • camO_ocamO_o Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28028Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Legionnaired+Sep 19 2004, 10:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Sep 19 2004, 10:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you don't like what he says, don't vote for him.

    Behold, the system works!

    Besides:

    god·less Audio pronunciation of "godless" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gdls)
    adj.

    1. Recognizing or worshiping no god.
    2. Wicked, impious, or immoral.

    Take it as the second if you don't want to get offended. Unless you're just looking for any excuse to jump on him, in which case, he's just a fool claiming faith in an outdated outmoded belief system, pay him no heed, and go on denying your maker. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And you have indisputable evidence that a product of your imagination is also responsible for the creation of the universe?
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-camO.o+Sep 18 2004, 10:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (camO.o @ Sep 18 2004, 10:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The entire basis for my atheist beliefs is the fact that people like Forlorn exist. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Some capitalists are greedy pigs, and that is why I am a comunist.

    <span style='color:red'><b>SKIP MY POST AND READ CAM'S POST WHEN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHEEE IS TALKING ABOUT</b></span>
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    And you have indisputable evidence that a product of your imagination is also responsible for the creation of the universe?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    actually, who you're referring to isn't a product of his imagination; at worst, it's the product of some dude's imagination a long, long time ago. *edit* i should mention, however, that there might be areason that the idea has stuck.

    *edit* sorry about that swiftspear - edited for clarity.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    edited September 2004
    cam0 -

    "Product of your imagination" - what, my imagination and <b>billions</b> of others, right?
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    If nothing else, religion's killed off thousands of threads. I fear this one does not have much longer to live.

    I'd be impressed that billions of people believed in a god if He wasn't so vague. God doesn't seem to mean the same thing to any two people. To some, He's a security blanket; to others, a bigger brother. For others still, He provides a direction for their bile. And to an awful lot, He's not really that important, even if they believe He's hanging around.
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