Alien Flashlight

waller · August 2004

hmmm
I've just been looking through the bug tracker and i've found this bug

<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000339' target='_blank'>http://www.natural-selection.org/bt/bug_vi...?bug_id=0000339</a>

Scroll down and you see tyrnemesis says :
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>We'll need to fix this for later on if we decide to make changes to the alien flashlight.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Anyone got any ideas on what they're planning to do with the flashlight, or what they hope they're doing with the flashlight?

dhakbar · August 2004

Wow, it would sure kick **** if the aliens' "flashlight" functioned in a useful way. The current model is 100% crap.

Dantemss · August 2004

I agree. The only 2 uses for it now are:

1-JP'er in a hive room such as co_core, so that you can see him through the hive.
2-AvA, but few servers have it.

douchebagatron · August 2004

i use it quite often when im looking for the motion chamber in a hive, just pop it on and i can see the buildings much better.

Unipac · August 2004

I only use it when gorges put some chambers in a dark vent and I can't see them.

phunktion · August 2004

good for seeing webs too

Unipac · August 2004

Oh right, that was the other thing I use it for.

Shazbot · August 2004

I think I heard they're going to make the alien flashlight make the marines glow much like the aliens when you have it on. Will make the aliens have an advantage in pitch black rooms <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

Insomnia · August 2004

Make it so marines light up, that way giving advantage to them in dark rooms.

j3st · August 2004

it would be nice to have the marines light up like aliens do after the sof upgrade.

BloodBall · August 2004

does enhanced sight ring a bell? doing that used to be a kick **** sensory upgrade, if it were just added it would make it somewhat unbalanced imo

Petco · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (j3st @ Aug 17 2004, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> it would be nice to have the marines light up like aliens do after the sof upgrade. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
They used to have an upgrade called advance hive site. Made buildings and rines glow. I asked flayra (A long time ago in playtesting) if advance hive site would be back. He said no.

Elowind · August 2004

Alien flashlight does need something, it frustrates me when im in a vent and can't find my way out because it's a new map to me and too dark. It's almost awkward since you'd think aliens have the advantage in the dark. Nothin to do but wait and see what they do I suppose, or head to the ideas forum and toss your marbles out on the table.

SmoodCroozn · August 2004

Maybe it could be added in one of the sensory upgrades or show marines only when they are around sensory chambers. That way, it won't nearly be as game changing, but help boost sensory :|

Petco · August 2004

Really ns is dark(Didn't they make all maps bright after beta 4a?)? For me it's pretty bright. No dark spots at all.

Uzguz · August 2004

The old Enhanced Sight upgrade (not Advanced Hive Sight, as some call it) was really quite powerful. It didn't get a whole lot of use, though, simply because of the crapulence of Sensory Chambers pre-2.0. Although I agree that the upgrade would be too hard to re-implement, the effect should be possible to attain somehow. However, it is too powerful to be available for free. It would, therefore, have to be attached to something else. I don't think that Scent of Fear is the answer. Any other ideas?

EvenFlow · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Petco @ Aug 18 2004, 06:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (j3st @ Aug 17 2004, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> it would be nice to have the marines light up like aliens do after the sof upgrade. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
They used to have an upgrade called advance hive site. Made buildings and rines glow. I asked flayra (A long time ago in playtesting) if advance hive site would be back. He said no.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Theres really no need for advanced hive sight now that we have scent of fear, it's 10x better.

comrade · August 2004

Why not must make the alien flashlight like nightvision goggles?

waller · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moomin. @ Aug 18 2004, 04:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Why not must make the alien flashlight like nightvision goggles?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Because the maps are no longer dark.
It may just be my crappy old vid card but i can make cloakers and most of the "Dark Spots" out on the map fine.. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

Necrosis · August 2004

High gamma will do that.

hotd0g · August 2004

i still remember the alien flashlight in AVP2(the game)
they should implement that flashlight, it made everything bright and rotate in a bright spiral, and make marines have a blue glow around them, so you can see them more clearly
i would sooooooooo use this when it would be used in NS

Skyler · August 2004

Whenever I have my flashlight active, I can't use web <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /> If I turn it off after it being turned on, I still can't put down new webs. I'm sure this has already been reported, but it's been this way since I first registered.

waller · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skyler @ Aug 18 2004, 05:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Whenever I have my flashlight active, I can't use web <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /> If I turn it off after it being turned on, I still can't put down new webs. I'm sure this has already been reported, but it's been this way since I first registered.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I didn't understand any of that, but check the Bug tracker *link in bug forums* and if it's not in there i'd report it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' />

Uzguz · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Even~Flow @ Aug 18 2004, 06:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Petco @ Aug 18 2004, 06:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (j3st @ Aug 17 2004, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> it would be nice to have the marines light up like aliens do after the sof upgrade. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
They used to have an upgrade called advance hive site. Made buildings and rines glow. I asked flayra (A long time ago in playtesting) if advance hive site would be back. He said no. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Theres really no need for advanced hive sight now that we have scent of fear, it's 10x better.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Enhanced Sight (<i>not</i> "Advanced Hive Sight") was nothing like Scent of Fear. For one thing, it had absolutely nothing to do with Hive Sight.

Scent of Fear is not a solution to the lack of Enhanced Sight. The effect needs to be usable. The question is: How?

EvenFlow · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Uzguz @ Aug 18 2004, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Enhanced Sight (<i>not</i> "Advanced Hive Sight") was nothing like Scent of Fear. For one thing, it had absolutely nothing to do with Hive Sight.

Scent of Fear is not a solution to the lack of Enhanced Sight. The effect needs to be usable. The question is: How?

 </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Made buildings and rines glow</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Yes, that one.

SinSpawn · August 2004

Its a simple suggestion he said IF they plan to change it, meaning if any good idea came up to replace the flashlight they'd have to comback to that problem.

It doesn't mean they are changing the flashlight NOW!

Stop reading between the lines <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

Pehmolelu · August 2004

Well I have always thought that Aliens have great eye sight, like cats do so they can see very clearly in dark. This would only be realistic and it wouldnt help that much that you could think...

Zephor · August 2004

I always imaged it would be cool if the aliens could have a negative color sight sorta like in AVP or even better, like the predator vision. You can see buildings through walls but you lose all sight of marines or vice versa.

Nemesis_Zero · August 2004

Rumor debunking :

Everything in here 'heard of' as authentic plan of the devs was quite new to me. we are aware of the issues with the alien flashlight, but no solution has been decided upon so far.

waller · August 2004

What ever you do, don't get an idea from the I&S forums.
hovering scorpions anyone?

Alkiller · August 2004

Make it hova- Ok ok, I won't go there <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

And to respond to that bug (flashlight/web), I'm pretty sure it's known, but you can look for yourself if you want to <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

Alien Flashlight

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