In Euroland there is another problem: When a clan cant field 6 players, some of them usually play in PUGs in the US and meet there. (in #nspug)
In Europe we have loads of different gather channels: ns.mix ns.gather ns.gather.uk ns.gather.fi readyroom.dk pickns
Every major country tries to set up his own gather channel...and the community becomes split again. The french play in pickns, the nordic guys in readyroom.dk and ns.gather.fi etc.
European NS really needs a central place, like a good league and stuff like #nspug, to build a community around.
<!--QuoteBegin-Necrosis+Aug 9 2004, 05:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrosis @ Aug 9 2004, 05:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sadly its a total lie. I'm a Euro player, and I game on Lunixmonster, which is still a pub server, and also where there generally IS a high standard of teamplay. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I sense a MASSIVE flame war about to ensure, shame on your irresponsibility.
Lance <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well isnt this generally because many different countries prefer to speak their own language to the point of stubbernness? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I agree, there is lack of clans who play pcws frequently , In my opinion, clans need to use irc channels for pcws etc. this is just makes it easier. You can also arrange pcws in range of your clans skill [low\med\high etc]. I'd suggest people with no clan or ppl even have clans and willing to get their skill become better, play gathers which allows you to increase your own skill and which are more enjoying than pubs imo.
<!--QuoteBegin-Lancelot+Aug 9 2004, 05:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lancelot @ Aug 9 2004, 05:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In Euroland there is another problem: When a clan cant field 6 players, some of them usually play in PUGs in the US and meet there. (in #nspug)
In Europe we have loads of different gather channels: ns.mix ns.gather ns.gather.uk ns.gather.fi readyroom.dk pickns
Every major country tries to set up his own gather channel...and the community becomes split again. The french play in pickns, the nordic guys in readyroom.dk and ns.gather.fi etc.
European NS really needs a central place, like a good league and stuff like #nspug, to build a community around.
mfg
Lance <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well #ns.gather is a proper channel for the whole European scene (FYI ns.mix merged with us) that caters for all.
<!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> HELLO, WHERE DO YOU NEED ME FELLOW EUROS
I'm sure, it wouldn't be to hard to start up a league would it? a Little advertising in peoples sig pics or w/e and it could get a good few clan's up. webhosting doesn't have to be a problem does it?
The big problem I encountered when looking for a pcw is the lack of possibilities : we always play against the same guys, I'm not saying they're boring but I'd like to play against some other clans ...
Playing every night against : RaB, ariadne (certainly the most active clan imho), magik11, ... is getting boring.
And as you're talking about leagues, we were in the impulse-cup (the biggest failure I've ever seen) and still in ESL (so dead.), the only good thing I've seen is the french league <a href='http://france.nsleague.com' target='_blank'>FNSL</a>
I'm a member of FastSwitch if you're looking for pcw just join us on irc #fastswitch <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> / we're almost playing every night.
Hmm nice one. I could set up a ladder using nuke-ladder or something, which would run perfectly fine but i doubt any of you bums would use it beacuse it's kinda nooby using a pre made script..
The whole point behind making a league is getting the comuniity behind it active, and it's just not stable enough at the moment. If we start to see lots of activity in #ns.search and more and more people yearning for a decent league then it can happen, needs more useful admins than we've had on previous leagues.
I think cheez's idea of a league run like CAL would be good, i doubt they'd run a euro division though...
<!--QuoteBegin-Lancelot+Aug 9 2004, 06:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lancelot @ Aug 9 2004, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In Euroland there is another problem: When a clan cant field 6 players, some of them usually play in PUGs in the US and meet there. (in #nspug)
In Europe we have loads of different gather channels: ns.mix ns.gather ns.gather.uk ns.gather.fi readyroom.dk pickns
Every major country tries to set up his own gather channel...and the community becomes split again. The french play in pickns, the nordic guys in readyroom.dk and ns.gather.fi etc.
European NS really needs a central place, like a good league and stuff like #nspug, to build a community around.
mfg
Lance<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Essentially #ns.mix was an attempt to glue the massive amounts of gather\pug\mix channels together. Unfortunatly it din't work out quite that well. Reason for that was more or less the geographical differences in Europe. Different languages, different habits, dodgy connections among country's. At least that's my theory <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->. (I'm quite sure the shite additude in the community made a large contribrution as well).
Usually you end up with local gather channels for people that share the same country.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well #ns.gather is a proper channel for the whole European scene (FYI ns.mix merged with us) that caters for all<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I deleted #ns.mix when I was done with it (personally), they tried restarting it, but apparently they couldn't last it a week. Comes to show something really.
In the end it's is probably the divide of Europe causing all this. I don't see this doing alot of damage to the CS community for example. But NS with it's relatively small userbase is heavely affected.
PS: This post is loaded with first degree speculation.
All this thread says to me is that we need to do something about it. I'm sure you could get a nice stable site up. Community shouldn't be a problem. if anything this shows people want to help?
<!--QuoteBegin-waller+Aug 9 2004, 07:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (waller @ Aug 9 2004, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All this thread says to me is that we need to do something about it. I'm sure you could get a nice stable site up. Community shouldn't be a problem. if anything this shows people want to help? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yea well I think we've all seen it before, scene is begging for some activity, everyone acts motivated. And as soon as someone has a go at something, everybody's involvement drops to rock-bottom again. Numerous projects have died exactly like so.
<!--QuoteBegin-Travis Dane+Aug 9 2004, 01:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Travis Dane @ Aug 9 2004, 01:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-waller+Aug 9 2004, 07:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (waller @ Aug 9 2004, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All this thread says to me is that we need to do something about it. I'm sure you could get a nice stable site up. Community shouldn't be a problem. if anything this shows people want to help? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yea well I think we've all seen it before, scene is begging for some activity, everyone acts motivated. And as soon as someone has a go at something, everybody's involvement drops to rock-bottom again. Numerous projects have died exactly like so. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So sadly true :/
Things can change, the community needs to be activley pcwing (as i suggested in the first post of the thread) before we even consider getting something done.
(Infact, there are 12 Euro clans pcwing as a edit this, which is nice)
I've seen what a stable league did in France (FNSL), and it *really* helped the french community alot, it was a motivation for some clans to come back, and it brought some clans to light, while nobody knew them before. Although, indeed, this kind of competitions requires... stable clans, because when a season lasts 8 weeks, losing 50% of the clans makes the thing look kinda ridiculous. But it made clans a little more stable.
And, about the activity, well. It's holidays, we're all waiting for the beta 5, and there's nothing to play in yet. In a few weeks we'll have players at home, competitions (opencup, and probably some leagues/cups I've heard of), and a beta 5 which will probably revive the community by itself.
hello guys im <b>Mr.Faz</b> From <a href='http://www.themrmen.net' target='_blank'>www.TheMrMen.net</a> IRC #the.mr.men @quakenet <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:yellow'>SERVER IP : 80.253.122.183:27015</span> </span> Our clan pretty much started at the begining and some of our good players have just simply got board mainly because there isnt enough league play ect, Thats been my main goal scince starting the clan is to play in matches But it seems every league/cup were in just dies off ! , the reason being the clans droping out or the organisers just giving up on it (which is quite annoying)
show me a place where we can sign up for a league ect and we'll do it ,
Gathers are good and raise the bar slightly over public play, but then again we don't have the constant team building side of things which is what most clans need (the satisfaction of gaining points blagh blagh)
<span style='color:white'>SO PLEASE SOMEONE SORT A DECENT LEAGUE OUT AND TRY AND KEEP THE THING RUNNING FOR MORE THAN A FEW WEEKS </span>
lots of clans folded, lots of ppl left ns, because they say its boring, or cause their clans dont play pcws, ...
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, there arent any active commanders :/ -- and without a comm, even if you are 6, its hard to win...
ive been in 5 clans for the las 6 months, and i dont think that its to difficult to get a 7 ppl clan, and to date everyday at 5pm or 6 pm and after 1 pcw or 2 go for social life., but most of them folded or become inactive cause the commander was sick of ns, or sick of commanding, and left the clan.
I'm sure the next patch is going to bring in a lil playerbase, so we should be able to get something going from there. I'd personally love to see the UKNSL a success, but jas0 has said to me he 'cba' with it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Amplifier+Aug 9 2004, 02:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Amplifier @ Aug 9 2004, 02:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Many US clans will scrim (some) euros providing the ping isin't that bad. If you have trouble finding a pcw on quakenet come to gamesurge #findnsscrim <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yea ok, cos everyone wants to play with 100+ ping.
That kind of ping is horrible for you and your teams play, seeing as how it can take up to twice as long to kill a skulk.
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Interestingly enough, there doesn't seem to be a lack of european ns clans playing right now. I've seen around 20 different clans play today, which isn't bad at all considering the sad state of the community.
<!--QuoteBegin-Necrosis+Aug 9 2004, 11:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrosis @ Aug 9 2004, 11:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You can't really get a high standard of teamplay on a public server. wont happen. period. its a shame <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sadly its a total lie. I'm a Euro player, and I game on Lunixmonster, which is still a pub server, and also where there generally IS a high standard of teamplay.
Most Euro servers are full of idiots and people I could beat blindfolded. Hence, I go to another server, suffer a higher ping, but get a more challenging and REWARDING game without having to suffer any abuse. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> you've admitted yourself that you've never played in a clan. teamwork in a clan is beyond anything lunixmonster will ever serve up, whether you like to admit it or not. please stop jumping from thread to thread advertising LM, it's really really annoying, especially when you have no idea what you're talking about. being good in a pub server is nothing compared to the level of play you find in clans. i've met plenty of people who can go 50-10, but can barely hold their own in a pug or scrim.
the state of the clan community isn't much better in the states. if you'd seen the CAL playoffs recently, more then half (yes, half) of the games resulted in a forfeit win. we've got a tourney running here (see sig), but that's hardly enough to revive an entire community. i'd recommend you guys try the same, by starting with a tournament or something, and see what you can work off from there.
the problem my clan has is a big one: we hardly have enough active players to play enough pcws
if it would work out as i tjink it should be we would just scrim and pcw spontaneously everey or every second evening
but sometimes we cant get enough players for 1 war that has been anounced a week before
thats were the split in europe comes again... we are a german clan and so we are dependent on german players which drastically reduces the amount of people that could theoretically join our clan
we will have to try to get more members, really active members and then things should get goin...
...............................................
p.s. at the moment the only regular "pcw" we play is a training on sunday against the same clan every week
real pcw are very seldom :/
so if you are a german player searching for a clan pm me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I think, at first, countries should have one national league, like france has. It greatly dynamizes clans, when done well. And it's much easier to organize as an europe-wide league; as no-one yet has succeeded in a euro league which lasted more than 3 weeks, most of the time because clans didn't care; maybe it would make clans "learn" to play in these, with their own scene. And an euro league would come naturally later, probably organized by people from national leagues which proved themselves to be reliable and good at making nice leagues.
<!--QuoteBegin-Travis Dane+Aug 9 2004, 06:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Travis Dane @ Aug 9 2004, 06:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well #ns.gather is a proper channel for the whole European scene (FYI ns.mix merged with us) that caters for all<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I deleted #ns.mix when I was done with it (personally), they tried restarting it, but apparently they couldn't last it a week. Comes to show something really. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes but they didn't have the support of a successful organisation such as Gather-Network like we do. We have had 29 gathers in 5 days so far <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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In Europe we have loads of different gather channels:
ns.mix
ns.gather
ns.gather.uk
ns.gather.fi
readyroom.dk
pickns
Every major country tries to set up his own gather channel...and the community becomes split again. The french play in pickns, the nordic guys in readyroom.dk and ns.gather.fi etc.
European NS really needs a central place, like a good league and stuff like #nspug, to build a community around.
mfg
Lance
I sense a MASSIVE flame war about to ensure, shame on your irresponsibility.
mfg
Lance <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well isnt this generally because many different countries prefer to speak their own language to the point of stubbernness? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Not that hard to get a pcw together.
Although I belive we need more leagues
Edit: If anyone is thinking of starting a tourny or anything, I was a UKNSL admin, and a UKTFCL admin for 2years. Just PM me if you need any help
In Europe we have loads of different gather channels:
ns.mix
ns.gather
ns.gather.uk
ns.gather.fi
readyroom.dk
pickns
Every major country tries to set up his own gather channel...and the community becomes split again. The french play in pickns, the nordic guys in readyroom.dk and ns.gather.fi etc.
European NS really needs a central place, like a good league and stuff like #nspug, to build a community around.
mfg
Lance <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well #ns.gather is a proper channel for the whole European scene (FYI ns.mix merged with us) that caters for all.
a Little advertising in peoples sig pics or w/e and it could get a good few clan's up.
webhosting doesn't have to be a problem does it?
Playing every night against : RaB, ariadne (certainly the most active clan imho), magik11, ... is getting boring.
And as you're talking about leagues, we were in the impulse-cup (the biggest failure I've ever seen) and still in ESL (so dead.), the only good thing I've seen is the french league <a href='http://france.nsleague.com' target='_blank'>FNSL</a>
I'm a member of FastSwitch if you're looking for pcw just join us on irc #fastswitch <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> / we're almost playing every night.
I could set up a ladder using nuke-ladder or something, which would run perfectly fine but i doubt any of you bums would use it beacuse it's kinda nooby using a pre made script..
I think cheez's idea of a league run like CAL would be good, i doubt they'd run a euro division though...
In Europe we have loads of different gather channels:
ns.mix
ns.gather
ns.gather.uk
ns.gather.fi
readyroom.dk
pickns
Every major country tries to set up his own gather channel...and the community becomes split again. The french play in pickns, the nordic guys in readyroom.dk and ns.gather.fi etc.
European NS really needs a central place, like a good league and stuff like #nspug, to build a community around.
mfg
Lance<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Essentially #ns.mix was an attempt to glue the massive amounts of gather\pug\mix channels together. Unfortunatly it din't work out quite that well. Reason for that was more or less the geographical differences in Europe. Different languages, different habits, dodgy connections among country's. At least that's my theory <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->. (I'm quite sure the shite additude in the community made a large contribrution as well).
Usually you end up with local gather channels for people that share the same country.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well #ns.gather is a proper channel for the whole European scene (FYI ns.mix merged with us) that caters for all<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I deleted #ns.mix when I was done with it (personally), they tried restarting it, but apparently they couldn't last it a week. Comes to show something really.
In the end it's is probably the divide of Europe causing all this. I don't see this doing alot of damage to the CS community for example. But NS with it's relatively small userbase is heavely affected.
PS: This post is loaded with first degree speculation.
I'm sure you could get a nice stable site up.
Community shouldn't be a problem. if anything this shows people want to help?
I'm sure you could get a nice stable site up.
Community shouldn't be a problem. if anything this shows people want to help? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea well I think we've all seen it before, scene is begging for some activity, everyone acts motivated. And as soon as someone has a go at something, everybody's involvement drops to rock-bottom again. Numerous projects have died exactly like so.
I'm sure you could get a nice stable site up.
Community shouldn't be a problem. if anything this shows people want to help? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea well I think we've all seen it before, scene is begging for some activity, everyone acts motivated. And as soon as someone has a go at something, everybody's involvement drops to rock-bottom again. Numerous projects have died exactly like so. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So sadly true :/
(Infact, there are 12 Euro clans pcwing as a edit this, which is nice)
And, about the activity, well. It's holidays, we're all waiting for the beta 5, and there's nothing to play in yet. In a few weeks we'll have players at home, competitions (opencup, and probably some leagues/cups I've heard of), and a beta 5 which will probably revive the community by itself.
That'd be nice <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
^_^
Our clan pretty much started at the begining and some of our good players have just simply got board mainly because there isnt enough league play ect, Thats been my main goal scince starting the clan is to play in matches But it seems every league/cup were in just dies off ! , the reason being the clans droping out or the organisers just giving up on it (which is quite annoying)
show me a place where we can sign up for a league ect and we'll do it ,
Gathers are good and raise the bar slightly over public play, but then again we don't have the constant team building side of things which is what most clans need (the satisfaction of gaining points blagh blagh)
<span style='color:white'>SO PLEASE SOMEONE SORT A DECENT LEAGUE OUT AND TRY AND KEEP THE THING RUNNING FOR MORE THAN A FEW WEEKS </span>
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, there arent any active commanders :/
-- and without a comm, even if you are 6, its hard to win...
ive been in 5 clans for the las 6 months, and i dont think that its to difficult to get a 7 ppl clan, and to date everyday at 5pm or 6 pm and after 1 pcw or 2 go for social life., but most of them folded or become inactive cause the commander was sick of ns, or sick of commanding, and left the clan.
We need admins that care, and have experience...
A nice host for such a league might be nice too.
yea ok, cos everyone wants to play with 100+ ping.
That kind of ping is horrible for you and your teams play, seeing as how it can take up to twice as long to kill a skulk.
right now. I've seen around 20 different clans play today, which isn't bad at all
considering the sad state of the community.
I've even seen a couple of new clans!
You can't really get a high standard of teamplay on a public server. wont happen. period. its a shame
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sadly its a total lie. I'm a Euro player, and I game on Lunixmonster, which is still a pub server, and also where there generally IS a high standard of teamplay.
Most Euro servers are full of idiots and people I could beat blindfolded. Hence, I go to another server, suffer a higher ping, but get a more challenging and REWARDING game without having to suffer any abuse. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
you've admitted yourself that you've never played in a clan. teamwork in a clan is beyond anything lunixmonster will ever serve up, whether you like to admit it or not. please stop jumping from thread to thread advertising LM, it's really really annoying, especially when you have no idea what you're talking about. being good in a pub server is nothing compared to the level of play you find in clans. i've met plenty of people who can go 50-10, but can barely hold their own in a pug or scrim.
the state of the clan community isn't much better in the states. if you'd seen the CAL playoffs recently, more then half (yes, half) of the games resulted in a forfeit win. we've got a tourney running here (see sig), but that's hardly enough to revive an entire community. i'd recommend you guys try the same, by starting with a tournament or something, and see what you can work off from there.
Other than that, its going to be a bit of a waiting game unless someone comes forward with something.
if it would work out as i tjink it should be we would just scrim and pcw spontaneously everey or every second evening
but sometimes we cant get enough players for 1 war that has been anounced a week before
thats were the split in europe comes again...
we are a german clan and so we are dependent on german players which drastically reduces the amount of people that could theoretically join our clan
we will have to try to get more members, really active members and then things should get goin...
...............................................
p.s. at the moment the only regular "pcw" we play is a training on sunday against the same clan every week
real pcw are very seldom :/
so if you are a german player searching for a clan pm me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I deleted #ns.mix when I was done with it (personally), they tried restarting it, but apparently they couldn't last it a week. Comes to show something really. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes but they didn't have the support of a successful organisation such as Gather-Network like we do. We have had 29 gathers in 5 days so far <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->