Official Ava Or Mvm?

NeoTheHunter · July 2004

will they make mvm/ava an official gameplay to ns? or we are stuck in plugins?

BobTheJanitor · July 2004

MvM is supposed to be officially introduced down the road. That's why MvM maps work right now, some of the preliminary code is there that allows them to work with plugins to fix the bugs. AvA, I'm not sure if that's ever intended to be supported. I've heard mention of it MAYBE once. But it would require a lot of changes to the gameplay to make it playable at all.

NeoTheHunter · July 2004

my server run ava. it's working fine. onos devour onos with regen take about 30 sec to kill. so far, i haven't encounter a problem with it.

bade · July 2004

DUDE!, whats your server ip?

NolSinkler · July 2004

Hell yeah I want to play some AvA (because I love aliens <3)

NeoTheHunter · August 2004

it's 69.93.114.126:27015
I have many co, ns maps. sot it'll take a while to swicth to the ava maps unless u make a votemap to co_aa_g0op2.bsp

Redford · August 2004

Currently, MvM is a "feature" as a loophole that was left in the programming to allow easier implmentation later. AvA is currently similar to this. To be perfectly honest - I wouldn't expect anything this major anytime soon.

g0t_w00t · August 2004

with official MvM they could be the "Frontiersmen" vs the "Renegades"?
AvA = Kharaa vs Bihrio?

(i dunno just some thoughts)

waller · August 2004

AvA isn't currently possible without plugins, there's a few bugs like 1 team only gets a hive, and spawning points are a bit screwed aswell.

With pluging however it's very possible, as a post up there ^^ said. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' />

g0t_w00t · August 2004

hmm yeah, but my post was mainly suggesting names if it comes at all (without plaugins and whatnot)

waller · August 2004

Ahh soz, just skim read.

coris · August 2004

I hope this will never be implented, I really think that the devs need all their time to focus on classic.

waller · August 2004

Same here, tbh if you want MvM go play CS with new models..

Sky · August 2004

JPs, HA, no headshots, running + shooting with accuracy, GLs, MT, Resupply.....it's like CS on crack.

waller · August 2004

I'm sure a good mod could do that to CS.

Ollj · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NeoTheHunter @ Jul 31 2004, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> will they make mvm/ava an official gameplay to ns? or we are stuck in plugins? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
They are working on AvA and MvM as they do on Sniper riffles, Vehicles, an alien comand-mode, "headbite" damage systems, realistic Physics for hov<i>a</i>ring Scorpi<i>a</i>ns and a Role Playing System for NS.

Never Ever.

Rue · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ Aug 1 2004, 06:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NeoTheHunter @ Jul 31 2004, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> will they make mvm/ava an official gameplay to ns? or we are stuck in plugins? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
They are working on AvA and MvM as they do on Sniper riffles, Vehicles, an alien comand-mode and a Role Playing System for NS.

Never Ever.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
rofl <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

yeh MvM and AvA should be left to plugins and time shouldnt be wasted on the subject by the dev team.

Wirhe · August 2004

Except it doesn't matter because they do it their own way in any case >.<

d0om · August 2004

Has anyone else tried playing a nice open CS map like CS_assualt, with sv_gravity set really low. You can jump up to the top of the tallest building in a single bound! If you use pistols only and turn the damage down its KINDA like jetpack on jetpack ....

MvsM is fun though, shotguns and JP are brutally effective against marines. Fly over head and shower them in bullets <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

A MvsM with 2 commanders would be fun, but I doubt it would be easy to get to work.

Dantemss · August 2004

<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000253' target='_blank'>This</a> is the proof that MvM and AvA were (and maybe still are) intended by Flayra at a certain point. If you can't understand what I say, read the bugnotes by Flayra.

Hologram0 · August 2004

A while back there was talk of officially implimenting them... Instead they gave us combat (the lesser of two evils)

AvA would be kinda cool, but MvM is just any other FPS...

g0t_w00t · August 2004

maybe they'll put M&AvsM&A where the frontiersmen and the kharaa must eliminate the other marines (renegades?) and the other aliens (dont have a clue what to call em)

please do tell me if this sounds totally retarded

Sky · August 2004

it sounds totally retarded <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />
no seriously, that would require massive new maps w/ 5 or 6 hive locations, 2 MSs, at least 20 res nodes.....eesh.

bade · August 2004

mmmmmmmmmmm, 20 res nodes sounds good!

LittleToe · August 2004

just a fyi...

if you are playing AvsA game turn your flash light on to tell the teams apart

weggy · August 2004

Ive played 1 AvA map so far, probably the same one you have all played. A hive in the middle of a big room, the 2nd team spawns behind forcefields that propel them into the room.

AvA is a lot of fun, though there is no way for the defenders to win. And the attackers level up a lot slower. So its usually a long, long bloodbath until the defenders reach the level cap, then the attackers catch up and kill the hive.

Also, attackers dont have many abilities, which is annoying.

Still, good fun =D

g0t_w00t · August 2004

i agree, they can be really fun, but yeah, ns should stay ns, not turn into a damnable CS clone

im_lost · August 2004

MvM isn't pointless. Can you add commanders to CS?

g0t_w00t · August 2004

ahah, im mainly talking about MvM in CO maps, its practically cs with diff models

i play custom servers mainly, cause they can be really fun, used to play Exetel custom, but they are total monkeyf***ers, pardon the language, so now i play APGN custom maps. most of the admins at exetel got fired so we all moved there

but back to topic: MvM and CO = bad mix aka CS = crappy game

so in summary MvM = bad
and NS > CS

Official Ava Or Mvm?

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