Adrenaline Fade

Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
Is the best upgrade when you get your second hive up.

I've been practicing a lot with one hive fades so I can hit those damn marines who move just as fast on me without blink.

And I can tell you, adrenaline fade is much better than the celerity fade. The fact that you can also make them waste ammo by blinking around and up and down makes it even better.

I think the primary reason why people get celerity is because they aren't accustomed to blinking very short distances. Because the very reason why the fade is so good is because of blink, but people would rather try to run to the marine if it's say....3 meters or so, but you can just blink as well.

Stop being lazy, try fading with one hive, and then start using adrenaline.
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  • CaMCaM Join Date: 2004-07-05 Member: 29735Members
    yea i agree the adren fade is very powerful with blink i much prefer it then using cel <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • cryptcrypt Join Date: 2004-04-22 Member: 28091Members, Constellation
    Last pcws I used Silence as upgrade... all abilitys have a good and a bad side. Personally I prefer Adren if I know that we can not hold our 2. hive for long, so that I cant use metabolize. It can be somtimes really annoying to watch your Adrenalin as fade the whole time
  • cortexcortex Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23707Members
    I use celerity fade, i almost never walk unless if there is only one marine.

    i have no real problems with adrenaline and usually only run out when im far far away <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    i converted over from adrenaline fade because i found cel fades alot easier to run away with due to their speed... <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SewlekSewlek The programmer previously known as Schimmel Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16247Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Developer
    you forgot the fact, that celerity is also boosting your speed during blinking! That´s why I use celerity as fade, cause im just faster. You need less energie to blink through long halways and you support the "hit & run" tactic with this.
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    Adrenaline is weak considering metabolise regains energy and health. I can fly around and make a hmger shot his 125 bullets even better with celerity/metabolise than adrenaline.

    I use to love adrenaline, but with more experience with fading, celerity pwns.

    I will never ever go back to adrenaline, even in combat where levels go over 10, I'll get every upgrades, then, adrenaline and cloaking.

    If adrenaline was twice has good I miiight take it, but nah!

    Celerity for teh(well 4 me) win
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    I didn't know using metabolise actually gave you back energy. Surreal.
  • A_Boojum_SnarkA_Boojum_Snark Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20628Members
    Personally I use silence. Celerity screws me up when I'm on the ground hitting marines because I am moving faster than I expect. I also never have problems with not having enough adrenaline. Silence is just so good for surprising the marines, even if they have MT because you'll blink so fast it will be hard to track your blip, and most people are too accustomed to hearing the overly loud blink sound.
  • NuclearCoreMeltdownNuclearCoreMeltdown Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14524Members, Constellation
    Early 2 hive fade with silence is always fun, marines either rush MT or its one of the last things they get if they have the resources, and being a silent assassin is always fun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BuggyBuggy Join Date: 2003-11-08 Member: 22400Members, Constellation
    It's just a style of preferance I think. I've seen some of the best fades (well, in Europe, that is) use celerity, and I've also seem them use adren.

    I don't think there is a "best" mc upgrade, at least for fades, they're all good.
  • IvulIvul Join Date: 2004-06-16 Member: 29343Members
    It's all about the style you play, and ALOT depending on the map.

    i.e on ns_metal I would have chosen adrena and terrorised marine start(damn big area).
    on ns_nothing, silence...why?, alot of vents and small sideway corridors +no one expects that a fade have silence.

    My play style is often most hit and run, but sometimes i liek to play with my prey and blink around a bit(with celerity) meta before the final blink and swipe kill.
  • kiddiegrinderkiddiegrinder Join Date: 2004-01-09 Member: 25181Members, Constellation
    if i only have 1 hive i use celerity fade, 2 hives adren reason being that adren is good for the fades 3rd ability.

    tbh though i dont usually need adren for a fade with just blink an swipe bcus i try to click my mouse at certain times rather than hold it down an watch my energy waste away an leave me running for dear life <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if i only have 1 hive i use celerity fade, 2 hives adren reason being that adren is good for the fades 3rd ability.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Isn't it the other way around?

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->tbh though i dont usually need adren for a fade with just blink an swipe bcus i try to click my mouse at certain times rather than hold it down an watch my energy waste away an leave me running for dear life <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeha!
  • GrendelGrendel All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
    Silence + focus.

    Front line morale destroyer baby.
  • kiddiegrinderkiddiegrinder Join Date: 2004-01-09 Member: 25181Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->if i only have 1 hive i use celerity fade<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I mean this in the assumption that mc is first which is a rare thing but i quite like sometimes but can be a bit of a rape for a fade without regen bcus if its only one hive 3rd ability wont be unlocked obviously so they cant get health from any other way than run back to the hive as fast as they can
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    I just disagree going fade as one hive unless it is necessary, get up that hive!
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    A Hive takes 3 minutes to build - and for that time is extremely vulnerable. Basicly 4-6 minute marine tech can extremely easily squash, sodomize, destroy and rape a fadeless, building Hive.
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    A one hive fade is essential on every pub server i've been on... if he's good, and he'll need to be. A good 1 hive fade can prevent any attempt to take down a hive, especially in a good team where someone is already saving for hive.

    Plus, if the fade is already evolved in time for the hive to go up, he can very VERY quickly switch to a more offensive role with his second chamber upgrade and abilities.
  • CaMCaM Join Date: 2004-07-05 Member: 29735Members
    adren & cel help give fades great advantages in different ways i think it comes down to the "Style" of player you are some people tend to play a totally different game then others.. so which ever feels comfortable with you & works for you then go for it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ApolloGXApolloGX Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20817Members
    i adren fade because i like to pancake the best i can with a fade, if thats good at all

    i know a few people in the clan scene who use adren fade although most use celer

    if i go cara fade ( to protect the hive area ) i do use celerity for hit and run

    but in matches i play as a late regen fade and pick adren so i can stay in the combat area easier, also so while im blinking i have enough adren to meta once
    its a personal choice and i think either upgrade is feasible
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    It depends on the map, really.

    Big open maps go celerity, whereas small maps like ayumi where you get caught on every other courner you need a lot of blink power to make up for all the weird geometry of the level.
  • ekentekent Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7801Members
    I use the same percentage energy blinking with adren as I do with celerity... With celerity if you tap it, you jump across every room instantly. Even if your bar is at zero, a celerity blink off of the "vapors" will get you farther than a fade with energy but no celerity. It's very easy to stay suspended in the air with celerity blink as long as you don't glue the button in the down position. Any blink I execute with celerity, by the time I need to swipe I have regained enough energy to do so even if I have started at zero. That's because I don't need to hold down the button at all.

    Occasionally I will find myself lacking the ability to swipe because I've been running around in a group of marines for too long, but seriously, against a good marine that will never happen because you wouldn't have the luxury of swiping that many times, even if you had adren. Plus there's the fact that your back is a tempting target, a problem which adren does nothing to solve. Celerity speeds your retreat giving you that much more leeway.

    This is a case made for celerity without even considering two hives - metabolize, which pretty much invalidates any advantages adren may have had. Switch to 2, attack briefly, switch to 3, attack once, switch to 1, attack as much as possible, switch to 3, attack once, switch to 2, blink away.

    Anyway, I can't see ever using adren unless you're a lerk (umbra, gas) or a gorge (healspray), and even then you're risking your own life by doing it. A celerity pancaking lerk? good luck.
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    I used to like adrenaline a lot for pretty much every aliens, but now the only time i use it is for onos at 3 hives.

    (e)Kent is right all the way
  • WestwoodWestwood Join Date: 2004-07-23 Member: 30057Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rapier7+Jul 20 2004, 08:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapier7 @ Jul 20 2004, 08:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is the best upgrade when you get your second hive up.

    I've been practicing a lot with one hive fades so I can hit those damn marines who move just as fast on me without blink.

    And I can tell you, adrenaline fade is much better than the celerity fade. The fact that you can also make them waste ammo by blinking around and up and down makes it even better.

    I think the primary reason why people get celerity is because they aren't accustomed to blinking very short distances. Because the very reason why the fade is so good is because of blink, but people would rather try to run to the marine if it's say....3 meters or so, but you can just blink as well.

    Stop being lazy, try fading with one hive, and then start using adrenaline. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    jepp, i agree with u 100%

    i always upgrade my Fade with Adrenalin and regeneration!

    **** powerfull!

    greetings

    West
  • keep_it_Gangstakeep_it_Gangsta Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17632Members
    I go adrenalin, not that im knocking celerity either but I find it harder to start switching between 3 weapons to keep energy.

    Saying that when I play combat my first movement upgrade is always celerity.
  • ChargeCharge Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13144Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rapier7+Jul 20 2004, 08:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapier7 @ Jul 20 2004, 08:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And I can tell you, adrenaline fade is much better than the celerity fade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sir, these are old news.
  • jamespsxjamespsx Join Date: 2003-10-16 Member: 21708Members
    i always get adren.. i cant play without it.. it means u can hit jp'er INSTANTLY in air instead of a second delay...
  • zephiKzephiK Join Date: 2004-06-27 Member: 29586Members, Constellation
    I agree, It helps you get back your energy quickly really usefully for second attack.
    I get Regeneration then Adrenaline
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    Two hive fades are best with celerity or silence, depending on preference.

    If you are blinking right, you will not run out of energy. Holding down the button is the most common error. Throw in a meta here and there, and adren is completely redundant.

    When fighting a heavy train with 3 hives, acid rocket can be really helpful. It's the only time a lerk can't do the same job, and usually do it better. Fades are better off taking hits for skulks and engaging in melee skirmishes. And if you're going to use rockets, you really need adrenaline.
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->QUOTE (Rapier7 @ Jul 20 2004, 08:16 AM)
    And I can tell you, adrenaline fade is much better than the celerity fade.

    Sir, these are old news. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Isn't everybody jut saying that it depends on playing style cos I could just say :

    And I can tell you, celerity fade is much better than the adrenaline fade.

    Thats what I belive, I could'nt bear going back to adrenaline like in my new days with fading...celerity requires a bit more skill, considering you need metabolise all the time, but in the end is worth it.

    Silence, well, I like giving marines a chance to know I'm comming at least! hehe
  • ChargeCharge Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13144Members
    just tried a celerity fade and it indeed pwns.
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