Need Some Serious Advice Please
<div class="IPBDescription">Friend of mine maybe in trouble :(</div> Basically I have a friend at work called Laurel she's a pretty little girl that's aged 17 (no we ain't going out although she did say to Hayley that she likes me) who is is a little impressionable, anyway she's getting chatted by some scruffy looking 30 something bloke at work who to me has pervert written all over his face even my friend Hayley agrees she doen'ts like the look of him.
Back on track tho last week laurel commented on his pagen necklace being quite nice and now he won't leave her alone he keeps trying to talk her into coming along to one of his pagen get togethers form what she's been telling me about it she sound quite keen at first I though ah well maybe she might enjoy it pagen's may be a little strange to me but they're harmless enough something wasn't quite right but I let it go.
This evening at work Laurel said she was a bit unsure as to what he ment by "kinky fun after casting some spells" at one of the get togethers...... "WTH I though"
Then I overheard him talking to his mate up in the canteen at work saying something along the lines of "yeah mate they're loads of fun guaranteed sex everytime".....
Anyone thinking that I might be over reacting or does this also sound worrying?
Back on track tho last week laurel commented on his pagen necklace being quite nice and now he won't leave her alone he keeps trying to talk her into coming along to one of his pagen get togethers form what she's been telling me about it she sound quite keen at first I though ah well maybe she might enjoy it pagen's may be a little strange to me but they're harmless enough something wasn't quite right but I let it go.
This evening at work Laurel said she was a bit unsure as to what he ment by "kinky fun after casting some spells" at one of the get togethers...... "WTH I though"
Then I overheard him talking to his mate up in the canteen at work saying something along the lines of "yeah mate they're loads of fun guaranteed sex everytime".....
Anyone thinking that I might be over reacting or does this also sound worrying?
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my 17 yr old freinds goining out with a 40 yr old.
but anyway this sounds concerning, id tell your friend what you heared and that it sounds like a very bad idea for her to go, and maybe tell your supurvisor at work about these guys so they will keep an eye on them
Tell your friend to wisen up...
As for your friend, V-MAN, I don't know. You shouldn't be too paranoid, it'll only complicate matters, but you should be wary if you wish her good... Don't know right now, not enough information...
my 17 yr old freinds goining out with a 40 yr old.
but anyway this sounds concerning, id tell your friend what you heared and that it sounds like a very bad idea for her to go, and maybe tell your supurvisor at work about these guys so they will keep an eye on them <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Was going to but I half expect to not to believe me cos when i voiced my concerns before she said I was being paranoid <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
my 17 yr old freinds goining out with a 40 yr old.
but anyway this sounds concerning, id tell your friend what you heared and that it sounds like a very bad idea for her to go, and maybe tell your supurvisor at work about these guys so they will keep an eye on them <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Was going to but I half expect to not to believe me cos when i voiced my concerns before she said I was being paranoid <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
well if she really wants to go i guess you could join her to make sure shes safe
exactly
Or c) he'll wait a few times, so you build confidence in him...
Okay, now I'm making this paranoid... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But yes, going with her is a good idea.
oh ya, if she doesnt want a friend to go with her, just tell her it would make you and her other friends feel better, and that you guys are genuinely concerned. If she still says no, there is little you can do, and she is looking for trouble of one sort or another.
Or c) he'll wait a few times, so you build confidence in him...
Okay, now I'm making this paranoid... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But yes, going with her is a good idea. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol, there is only so much you can do <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->
my 17 yr old freinds goining out with a 40 yr old.
but anyway this sounds concerning, id tell your friend what you heared and that it sounds like a very bad idea for her to go, and maybe tell your supurvisor at work about these guys so they will keep an eye on them <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Was going to but I half expect to not to believe me cos when i voiced my concerns before she said I was being paranoid <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well if she really wants to go i guess you could join her to make sure shes safe <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not allowed to I don't think, wouldn't really want to go anyway.
Seems to be him and his "friends" from outside work that do this strange stuff, general mood among the people at work is that he's a ****ing weirdo.
Heard someone at work taking the mickey outa this bloke in question last night, he jokingly asked him when he was next going up the woods to run around naked at night with his friends... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
That would leave 2 people for me to worry about then lol
Seems to be him and his "friends" from outside work that do this strange stuff, general mood among the people at work is that he's a ****ing weirdo.
Heard someone at work taking the mickey outa this bloke in question last night, he jokingly asked him when he was next going up the woods to run around naked at night with his friends... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
well like i said earlier, if you or your male friends are not allowed to go, then there is definite cause for concern. This is horridly reminicent of more college frat parties that I had to rescue female friends from that 'we'(her non-frat guy friends) were not allowed to attend. Whenever friends are not allowed to accompany a female to a function involving guys, its always reason to be suspicous. If anything, he should be happy to have her friends along, to spread the pagan message. However this turns out, make sure you are by your phone the night she goes, just in case.
Seems to be him and his "friends" from outside work that do this strange stuff, general mood among the people at work is that he's a ****ing weirdo.
Heard someone at work taking the mickey outa this bloke in question last night, he jokingly asked him when he was next going up the woods to run around naked at night with his friends... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well like i said earlier, if you or your male friends are not allowed to go, then there is definite cause for concern. This is horridly reminicent of more college frat parties that I had to rescue female friends from that 'we'(her non-frat guy friends) were not allowed to attend. Whenever friends are not allowed to accompany a female to a function involving guys, its always reason to be suspicous. If anything, he should be happy to have her friends along, to spread the pagan message. However this turns out, make sure you are by your phone the night she goes, just in case. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed.
But keep this in mind--it's her life. If you warned her, and **** does hit the fan, you're morally no longer responsible. If you are an actual caring human being, meh. If she wants to mess around, do weird and stupid things, that's a fast way to get out of naiivette, or a fast way to being a single mom.
Seems to be him and his "friends" from outside work that do this strange stuff, general mood among the people at work is that he's a ****ing weirdo.
Heard someone at work taking the mickey outa this bloke in question last night, he jokingly asked him when he was next going up the woods to run around naked at night with his friends... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well like i said earlier, if you or your male friends are not allowed to go, then there is definite cause for concern. This is horridly reminicent of more college frat parties that I had to rescue female friends from that 'we'(her non-frat guy friends) were not allowed to attend. Whenever friends are not allowed to accompany a female to a function involving guys, its always reason to be suspicous. If anything, he should be happy to have her friends along, to spread the pagan message. However this turns out, make sure you are by your phone the night she goes, just in case. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed.
But keep this in mind--it's her life. If you warned her, and **** does hit the fan, you're morally no longer responsible. If you are an actual caring human being, meh. If she wants to mess around, do weird and stupid things, that's a fast way to get out of naiivette, or a fast way to being a single mom. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Guess your right tbh, won't stop me feeling **** tho if something bad does happen.
Not saying that all pagens are sex fiends most of what i know about them here in the UK is that they like to call themselves druids and flock to stonehenge for the summer solstice where hippies then abuse them for going near the ancient monument.
*groan*
This maybe something to remember if it goes bad for her i suppose......
not sure if he even has a car tho <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm going to assume that where you live, people aged 17 are legally considered minors, and people aged 30 are legally adults. I'm also going to assume there are laws against statutory rape. From what I'm reading you have enough awareness before this meeting to know that one or more of the members have probable intent to engage in sex-related conduct, and that your female aquaintance is a pontential participant. Whether they're pagans or not is irrelevant to me here -- right now I'm talking about rape being a crime.
If both of my above assumptions are true, then know this: by keeping this information to yourself, some courts could consider you an accomplice in crime if/when something unwanted and unnecessary happens.
[edit]Necrotic corrected one of my assumptions, so my warning is no longer fully supported...but I still recommend making <i>somebody</i> aware of the risk(s) she's taking.
I'm going to assume that where you live, people aged 17 are legally considered minors, and people aged 30 are legally adults. I'm also going to assume there are laws against statutory rape. From what I'm reading you have enough awareness before this meeting to know that one or more of the members have probable intent to engage in sex-related conduct, and that your female aquaintance is a pontential participant. Whether they're pagans or not is irrelevant to me here -- right now I'm talking about rape being a crime.
If both of my above assumptions are true, then know this: by keeping this information to yourself, some courts could consider you an accomplice in crime if/when something unwanted and unnecessary happens. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Your assumptions are my assumptions. I live in the UK and as far as I know under 18s are considered minors but it's not underage sex if the both parties are 16 or over dunno if that affects what you said tho, unfortunatly my knowledge of the law is limited to my personal experiences of it and that of friends/family mostly assault an stuff ABH/GBH etc.
its messed up... take care of your friends. cos you can be damn sure they will do the same when the time comes
its messed up... take care of your friends. cos you can be damn sure they will do the same when the time comes <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If I interfere now by hitting him it will only push her away and make it look like I am being possesive over her <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> plus it will get me sacked cos I work with the ****. If she gets hurt tho then the gloves come off and the bloke will know pain.....
Nice to hear from someone who thinks on a similar wavelength tho lol thx bud <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
at the very least tell her everything youve heard this guy say, make her understand that this might be all very bad.
I 'dated' <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> a 26 year old me being 16
its messed up... take care of your friends. cos you can be damn sure they will do the same when the time comes <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If I interfere now by hitting him it will only push her away and make it look like I am being possesive over her <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> plus it will get me sacked cos I work with the ****. If she gets hurt tho then the gloves come off and the bloke will know pain.....
Nice to hear from someone who thinks on a similar wavelength tho lol thx bud <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
pah nps its how we down south people think <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ok dude... without being a **** about it.. just have a word with the guy
' look bro, this girl.. she is my friend... if you hurt her. i will hurt you.'
and leave it at that... and im deadly serious if you need help taking care of a pervy 30 year old... im down <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
edit : when is ay this im not being a macho ****... i am not the smartes guy around.. i get by by being physically dominant ya know? its how i am.. and its true... if you show your 'power' then people wont hurt your loved ones.. its that simple..
and what is wrong with agreeing with me?! lolol
EDIT2 : the law still stand V... 16 is the consensual age for sex... but there is so many legal loops. in short.. a 17 year old.. with a 30 year old... he would go down. and then get taken out in prison if he mistreated her
and i'll agree with you again moq <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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first go to her, if that doesnt work, go do this, get another guy who knows about it all (and agrees, lol) to hang around in the background, not so close it could be seen that your ganging up on him, but you know.