<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Apr 9 2004, 09:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Apr 9 2004, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But the problem is that Firefox doesn't accept that standards should be followed, while still allowing for some sites to "catch up" to today's standards. Instead, it decides to break the page, displaying it incorrectly because it doesn't follow the strict guidelines of web standards. The Mozilla group has been advertising Firefox as an alternative to Internet Explorer. What new Internet user would want to download a browser that not only requires extensive modding to get it to run like Opera or Internet Explorer, but also only displays half of the sites they're used to viewing fine in Internet Explorer? Is Firefox an "elistists only" browser, or is it for new users as well? Mozilla hasn't seemed to figure that out yet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I actually find this quite ironic considering my current situation. Recently (today) I redid my clans website. Previously we used a bloody template site and I was generally not happy with it. Anyways, I get finished with it, load it up in Firefox, make sure everything looks good and just say "Well, firefox works, so IE shouldn't have any problems" So, when I finally got around to loading it up in IE after uploading it and so on, I realized that in IE it was plagued with small graphical errors.. Mostly just caused by using the br tag on its own line instead of having it as part of another line.. =/
I don't want to be captain obvious, but Firefox has a number of ways to open tabs, 3 which I use myself: 1) ctrl-t 2) in the row with tabs in it, double click any blank space. 3) middle-mouse click the link you want to open in a separate tab.
I have this forum to thank for switching me to Firefox. The only thing I don't like is that I find their Adobe Reader plugin to be <i>much</i> slower than IE's. But saving the file to disk first fixes that. Other than for using Windows Update, I'm not going back to IE again - ever.
Oh yeah, neat trick that someone might not know... You can place <i>folders</i>, not just individual links, on your bookmarks toolbar. Say for example, you have a bunch of webcomics you like to read every day, or multiple webmail accounts to check. Just place all the links in the folder and right-click -> Open in Tabs. I find it saves a lot of time instead of browsing to multiple pages one at a time. Captain Obvious, <i>away!!!</i> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix Six+Apr 10 2004, 12:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Phoenix Six @ Apr 10 2004, 12:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't want to be captain obvious, but Firefox has a number of ways to open tabs, 3 which I use myself: 1) ctrl-t 2) in the row with tabs in it, double click any blank space. 3) middle-mouse click the link you want to open in a separate tab. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> 4) Hold CTRL and click the link <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix Six+Apr 10 2004, 03:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Phoenix Six @ Apr 10 2004, 03:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh yeah, neat trick that someone might not know... You can place <i>folders</i>, not just individual links, on your bookmarks toolbar. Say for example, you have a bunch of webcomics you like to read every day, or multiple webmail accounts to check. Just place all the links in the folder and right-click -> Open in Tabs. I find it saves a lot of time instead of browsing to multiple pages one at a time. Captain Obvious, <i>away!!!</i> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You rock. I didn't know that.
Oh, and for opening a window in a tab instead of a new window: <a href='http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#tabprefs' target='_blank'>click me!</a>
/me cackles evilly as he watches the scourge... er, Firefox spread to more and more computers
<a href='http://www.myie2.com' target='_blank'>MyIE2</a> has everything that those browsers have and quite possibly more*. And it does it really well, too. I swear by MyIE2. (A lot of websites are constructing with IE in mind lately, MyIE2 uses the IE rendering engine. It's not vulnerable to any of the stupid IE exploits, either.)
IE > all <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Bahahahahahahahahah
..Well, okay <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> You go on loving IE. But remember that Firefox will still be there when IE screws up irreversibly for the umpteenth time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can't recall a time when my IE has ever messed up.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well obviously you haven't actually used the internet.
Anyway, FireFox for the win in my opinion, it's such a reliable web-browser. Opera is another great browser, I mean it's the fastest browser ever made! But I just prefer Mozilla products. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> Might change in due time though...
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Wow! MyIE2 is looking really good. It even has support for the Gecko engine (the one Mozilla uses) in addition to IE's. As far as I can see it has only one fatal flaw: middle clicking on a link doesn't open it in a new tab. Is there any way to do this? I can't live without my one click tabs.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+Apr 10 2004, 05:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Apr 10 2004, 05:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow! MyIE2 is looking really good. It even has support for the Gecko engine (the one Mozilla uses) in addition to IE's. As far as I can see it has only one fatal flaw: middle clicking on a link doesn't open it in a new tab. Is there any way to do this? I can't live without my one click tabs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Options> MyIE2 Options> Window - New> Middle Mouse Button Click On Links.
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edited April 2004
Awesome! It is now my default browser. Another annoying thing I've noticed, though, is that it uses IE's version of autoscroll, which is "le suck", as it takes you to the top or bottom of a page almost instantly if you move the mouse more than an inch away from the center of the screen.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+Apr 10 2004, 06:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Apr 10 2004, 06:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Awesome! It is now my default browser. Another annoying thing I've noticed, though, is that it uses IE's version of autoscroll, which is "le suck", as it takes you to the top or bottom of a page almost instantly if you move the mouse more than an inch away from the center of the screen. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't really have any problems with it. Though I usually use the PGDN and PGUP keys, and the scroll wheel.
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I use the scroll wheel too, but in Firefox you can use autoscroll to quickly jump to any part of a page. IE just makes it an alternative to the page up/down keys.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+Apr 10 2004, 06:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Apr 10 2004, 06:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I use the scroll wheel too, but in Firefox you can use autoscroll to quickly jump to any part of a page. IE just makes it an alternative to the page up/down keys. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> By the way, take a look at Quick Search in the setup centre. You can set it up to search on Google for anything you type in to the bar.
[EDIT] You can also use it in a similar way to that keywords thing in Mozilla. Just have it go to a certain website on certain keywords.
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edited April 2004
This just in! MyIE2 is vulnerable to the same exploits as IE. Looks like I'm not going to use it as my default browser after all. But I will definitely use it at those times when Mozilla simply will not work with a webpage (which is half the internet, according to Medhead).
<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+Apr 10 2004, 07:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Apr 10 2004, 07:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This just in! MyIE2 is vulnerable to the same exploits as IE. Looks like I'm not going to use it as my default browser after all. But I will definitely use it at those times when Mozilla simply will not work with a webpage (which is half the internet, according to Medhead). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Never happened for me. o_O Maybe I use different security settings, or Ad Muncher tells it to buzz off or something.
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edited April 2004
A trojan got both me and CF through MyIE2, luckily for us it was THE TROJAN THAT FIXES ITSELF and it removed itself before we could even have the pleasure of deleting it manually.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+Apr 10 2004, 08:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Apr 10 2004, 08:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A trojan got both me and CF through MyIE2, luckily for us it was THE TROJAN THAT FIXES ITSELF and it removed itself before we could even have the pleasure of deleting it manually. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, I just gave it a run. What a crappy virus, they had to use WinRAR to sekratly unpack their virus files and run a hexed mIRC client (Which didn't even work on my computer) to spread. Then it copied the WinRAR archive to C:\Windows\system32 named as notepad.exe (They didn't even change the WinRAR icon!) and left a file called fix.bat which REMOVES THE WHOLE VIRUS.
So we can get Opera which looks good, runs fast, has a ton of options and everything you need...or you can download Firefox and then search for third party plugins to make it better?
Sorry, but a plugin doesn't make the browser itself better.
even without plugins I think firefox is fine... besides the almost limitless choice of plugins allows for you to customise it to as specific a degree as you like. And funnily enough, yes, the plugins do make the browser better... that's kinda the point of them =P
If you're happy with opera then stick with it, but you should try both of them before listening to everyone else's opinions of them ^^
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<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Apr 10 2004, 06:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Apr 10 2004, 06:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have both Opera and Firefox on my computer (and Internet Explorer, but that's obvious). Opera would be much better if I had the money to remove the ad banner. I prefer the way it runs the tabs to Firefox: I can change the size of each tab without changing the full window size. With Firefox, the entire program must change size to change the window size of the tab.
Mostly Firefox wins my vote for ease of use - the problem it has right now is that it's too arrogant for its own good. Internet Explorer doesn't follow "standards" set by the equally arrogant World Wide Web Consortium. It reads what's written on the page and spits it out as best it can. For many elitists, this is wrong, because it only encourages laziness in web designers.
But the problem is that Firefox doesn't accept that standards should be followed, while still allowing for some sites to "catch up" to today's standards. Instead, it decides to break the page, displaying it incorrectly because it doesn't follow the strict guidelines of web standards. The Mozilla group has been advertising Firefox as an alternative to Internet Explorer. What new Internet user would want to download a browser that not only requires extensive modding to get it to run like Opera or Internet Explorer, but also only displays half of the sites they're used to viewing fine in Internet Explorer? Is Firefox an "elistists only" browser, or is it for new users as well? Mozilla hasn't seemed to figure that out yet.
Firefox fans often cluck over Internet Explorer's botchy code, and how Microsoft has influenced the growth of the web both with its browser and the WYSIWYG editor Frontpage. While I can understand that many strive to make a standard of editing for all websites to follow (thus making browsing easier), the fact of the matter is that at the moment, a standards compliant Internet doesn't exist. Sure, there are niches in the web that follow the guidelines, but there is also quite a bit that don't. Opera accepts this, and displays many of the sites similar to Internet Explorer, while keeping a tighter grip on security. But Mozilla had to take it one step farther!
Now I have to play hot potato with my browsers, switching back and forth to view sites that don't work with Opera or Firefox. I never had to do that with Internet Explorer - it displayed everything the way I wanted to, and usually the way the designers intended. Sadly, because of security issues, I couldn't continue with Internet Explorer. If it wasn't for that, I think I would continue to use it. I want surfing the web to be easy, not a chore. Opera and Firefox have served to make my browsing more secure, but I'm not sure if it's any better. The frustrations have simply changed subjects.
I think I have to agree with DOOM - as of now, there is no "good" browser in existance. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It is not a case that Internet Explorer displays pages totally differently from other browsers. Firefox was developed to be a browser that everyone can use as a replacement for IE, it even goes as far as including a Quirks rendering mode, which means it renders nearly every Internet Explorer designed page absolutely fine. I havnt had one page in Firefox display incorrectly for me. The problem is that Internet Explorer has bugs, which are not being fixed for a long time, and it doesnt have decent support for <b>nearly all</b> of the latest technologies (SVG, CSS2, PNG's, for starters). Using these technologies, and removing bugs in the rendering and processing of existing technologies, is the only way the web can move forward. Firefox and Opera now have very similar page rendering, they both work very well IMO (and Opera and Firefox users should be fighting amongst themselves, because as long as theyre not using IE, its a step forward for the web).
A standards compliant Internet doesnt exist, but it should be the case that all browsers strive to provide the best experience for the users, and Internet Explorer hasnt had any major updates in years, leaving it behind the times, broken, and useless for designing things which will work cross-platform. Even Frontpage, Dreamweaver, and other WYSIWYG HTML editors can write (nearly) standards complaint code these days, which will allow pages to work on all manner of devices.
Yes, Firefox isnt perfect (it still hasnt reached its 1.0 release), but it displays modern pages more correctly than IE ever can, and can handle old noncompliant pages with grace. It has made surfing for me a lot easier, and while I recognise that the Mozilla organisation still has a bit to do to appeal to less tech-savvy users, its getting there.
Of course, if the next version of Internet Explorer contains flawless CSS2 support, CSS3 support, and other technologies, then I'll be a happy little bunny, because it means that nearly everyone can view pages without restrictions of differing technologies. As a web developer, I try to make pages which give the best experience to all users, at the smallest filesizes. Firefox and Opera allow me to do this, IE always throws a spanner into the works.
One thing Firefox has that I don't think any other browser has: Automatically searching pages for links. Just go to a page, type a few letters, and it takes you to a link that matches up with what you're typing. For instance, if you were at the NS Forum main page, you could type "off" and it would take you to the Off-Topic link, and then just press enter, and you're here. I love it.
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Gah! Now any links I click on in any IRC client are opened with MyIE2, even though it's not my default browser. Uninstalling it just makes the links nonfunctional. Does anyone know the registry setting I need to change in order to fix this?
IE > all <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Bahahahahahahahahah
..Well, okay <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> You go on loving IE. But remember that Firefox will still be there when IE screws up irreversibly for the umpteenth time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can't recall a time when my IE has ever messed up.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Open a link in IRC some time.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+Apr 10 2004, 03:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Apr 10 2004, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Gah! Now any links I click on in any IRC client are opened with MyIE2, even though it's not my default browser. Uninstalling it just makes the links nonfunctional. Does anyone know the registry setting I need to change in order to fix this? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> in firefox, Tools menu, options, General, "Set default browser"
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<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+Apr 10 2004, 12:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Apr 10 2004, 12:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Gah! Now any links I click on in any IRC client are opened with MyIE2, <b>even though it's not my default browser</b>. Uninstalling it just makes the links nonfunctional. Does anyone know the registry setting I need to change in order to fix this? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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After reading enough of this, I switched to Firefox. One step closer to perfection.
But the problem is that Firefox doesn't accept that standards should be followed, while still allowing for some sites to "catch up" to today's standards. Instead, it decides to break the page, displaying it incorrectly because it doesn't follow the strict guidelines of web standards. The Mozilla group has been advertising Firefox as an alternative to Internet Explorer. What new Internet user would want to download a browser that not only requires extensive modding to get it to run like Opera or Internet Explorer, but also only displays half of the sites they're used to viewing fine in Internet Explorer? Is Firefox an "elistists only" browser, or is it for new users as well? Mozilla hasn't seemed to figure that out yet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I actually find this quite ironic considering my current situation. Recently (today) I redid my clans website. Previously we used a bloody template site and I was generally not happy with it. Anyways, I get finished with it, load it up in Firefox, make sure everything looks good and just say "Well, firefox works, so IE shouldn't have any problems"
So, when I finally got around to loading it up in IE after uploading it and so on, I realized that in IE it was plagued with small graphical errors.. Mostly just caused by using the br tag on its own line instead of having it as part of another line.. =/
You do know Firefox (and all Mozilla projects) are free and open-source, right? And no ads? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, Opera is bloatware tbh.
1) ctrl-t
2) in the row with tabs in it, double click any blank space.
3) middle-mouse click the link you want to open in a separate tab.
I have this forum to thank for switching me to Firefox. The only thing I don't like is that I find their Adobe Reader plugin to be <i>much</i> slower than IE's. But saving the file to disk first fixes that. Other than for using Windows Update, I'm not going back to IE again - ever.
Oh yeah, neat trick that someone might not know... You can place <i>folders</i>, not just individual links, on your bookmarks toolbar. Say for example, you have a bunch of webcomics you like to read every day, or multiple webmail accounts to check. Just place all the links in the folder and right-click -> Open in Tabs. I find it saves a lot of time instead of browsing to multiple pages one at a time. Captain Obvious, <i>away!!!</i> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
1) ctrl-t
2) in the row with tabs in it, double click any blank space.
3) middle-mouse click the link you want to open in a separate tab. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
4) Hold CTRL and click the link <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You rock. I didn't know that.
Oh, and for opening a window in a tab instead of a new window: <a href='http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#tabprefs' target='_blank'>click me!</a>
/me cackles evilly as he watches the scourge... er, Firefox spread to more and more computers
*Plugin development is sort of slow, though.
IE > all <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bahahahahahahahahah
..Well, okay <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> You go on loving IE. But remember that Firefox will still be there when IE screws up irreversibly for the umpteenth time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't recall a time when my IE has ever messed up.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well obviously you haven't actually used the internet.
Anyway, FireFox for the win in my opinion, it's such a reliable web-browser. Opera is another great browser, I mean it's the fastest browser ever made! But I just prefer Mozilla products. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Might change in due time though...
Options> MyIE2 Options> Window - New> Middle Mouse Button Click On Links.
I?m thinking of trying Fire fox some time in the future some time
I don't really have any problems with it. Though I usually use the PGDN and PGUP keys, and the scroll wheel.
By the way, take a look at Quick Search in the setup centre. You can set it up to search on Google for anything you type in to the bar.
[EDIT] You can also use it in a similar way to that keywords thing in Mozilla. Just have it go to a certain website on certain keywords.
Never happened for me. o_O Maybe I use different security settings, or Ad Muncher tells it to buzz off or something.
Yeah, I just gave it a run. What a crappy virus, they had to use WinRAR to sekratly unpack their virus files and run a hexed mIRC client (Which didn't even work on my computer) to spread. Then it copied the WinRAR archive to C:\Windows\system32 named as notepad.exe (They didn't even change the WinRAR icon!) and left a file called fix.bat which REMOVES THE WHOLE VIRUS.
Sorry, but a plugin doesn't make the browser itself better.
And funnily enough, yes, the plugins do make the browser better... that's kinda the point of them =P
If you're happy with opera then stick with it, but you should try both of them before listening to everyone else's opinions of them ^^
Mostly Firefox wins my vote for ease of use - the problem it has right now is that it's too arrogant for its own good. Internet Explorer doesn't follow "standards" set by the equally arrogant World Wide Web Consortium. It reads what's written on the page and spits it out as best it can. For many elitists, this is wrong, because it only encourages laziness in web designers.
But the problem is that Firefox doesn't accept that standards should be followed, while still allowing for some sites to "catch up" to today's standards. Instead, it decides to break the page, displaying it incorrectly because it doesn't follow the strict guidelines of web standards. The Mozilla group has been advertising Firefox as an alternative to Internet Explorer. What new Internet user would want to download a browser that not only requires extensive modding to get it to run like Opera or Internet Explorer, but also only displays half of the sites they're used to viewing fine in Internet Explorer? Is Firefox an "elistists only" browser, or is it for new users as well? Mozilla hasn't seemed to figure that out yet.
Firefox fans often cluck over Internet Explorer's botchy code, and how Microsoft has influenced the growth of the web both with its browser and the WYSIWYG editor Frontpage. While I can understand that many strive to make a standard of editing for all websites to follow (thus making browsing easier), the fact of the matter is that at the moment, a standards compliant Internet doesn't exist. Sure, there are niches in the web that follow the guidelines, but there is also quite a bit that don't. Opera accepts this, and displays many of the sites similar to Internet Explorer, while keeping a tighter grip on security. But Mozilla had to take it one step farther!
Now I have to play hot potato with my browsers, switching back and forth to view sites that don't work with Opera or Firefox. I never had to do that with Internet Explorer - it displayed everything the way I wanted to, and usually the way the designers intended. Sadly, because of security issues, I couldn't continue with Internet Explorer. If it wasn't for that, I think I would continue to use it. I want surfing the web to be easy, not a chore. Opera and Firefox have served to make my browsing more secure, but I'm not sure if it's any better. The frustrations have simply changed subjects.
I think I have to agree with DOOM - as of now, there is no "good" browser in existance. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It is not a case that Internet Explorer displays pages totally differently from other browsers. Firefox was developed to be a browser that everyone can use as a replacement for IE, it even goes as far as including a Quirks rendering mode, which means it renders nearly every Internet Explorer designed page absolutely fine. I havnt had one page in Firefox display incorrectly for me. The problem is that Internet Explorer has bugs, which are not being fixed for a long time, and it doesnt have decent support for <b>nearly all</b> of the latest technologies (SVG, CSS2, PNG's, for starters). Using these technologies, and removing bugs in the rendering and processing of existing technologies, is the only way the web can move forward. Firefox and Opera now have very similar page rendering, they both work very well IMO (and Opera and Firefox users should be fighting amongst themselves, because as long as theyre not using IE, its a step forward for the web).
A standards compliant Internet doesnt exist, but it should be the case that all browsers strive to provide the best experience for the users, and Internet Explorer hasnt had any major updates in years, leaving it behind the times, broken, and useless for designing things which will work cross-platform. Even Frontpage, Dreamweaver, and other WYSIWYG HTML editors can write (nearly) standards complaint code these days, which will allow pages to work on all manner of devices.
Yes, Firefox isnt perfect (it still hasnt reached its 1.0 release), but it displays modern pages more correctly than IE ever can, and can handle old noncompliant pages with grace. It has made surfing for me a lot easier, and while I recognise that the Mozilla organisation still has a bit to do to appeal to less tech-savvy users, its getting there.
Of course, if the next version of Internet Explorer contains flawless CSS2 support, CSS3 support, and other technologies, then I'll be a happy little bunny, because it means that nearly everyone can view pages without restrictions of differing technologies. As a web developer, I try to make pages which give the best experience to all users, at the smallest filesizes. Firefox and Opera allow me to do this, IE always throws a spanner into the works.
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Bahahahahahahahahah
..Well, okay <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> You go on loving IE. But remember that Firefox will still be there when IE screws up irreversibly for the umpteenth time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't recall a time when my IE has ever messed up.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Open a link in IRC some time.
in firefox, Tools menu, options, General, "Set default browser"
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