More Deaths...

HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
<div class="IPBDescription">How sad...</div> <a href='http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4551230/' target='_blank'>Sick</a>

How sad do you have to be to attack the people that are trying to help you in attempts to make things the way they were before?

How bad to things have to be down there, that they would kill and sell their souls in order to have things the way they were before?

I mean I know not everyone likes Americans. I'm not saying this. But oh my god.. I find it so hard to believe there are people that would kill only based on nationality. What's this world coming to?
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  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    <span style='color:white'>*faints</span>
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    Oh for a second I thought you meant that South Eastern cultures don't suffer from any prejudice <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    But yeah, I agree, any sort of killing is bad.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited March 2004
    Its incidents like these your glad when an american soldier kills one of those ****

    we help them, we save them and thier famalies yet they are blinded from the brainwash that they are superior and americans are demons from hell. Pathetic. i actually woulnd't mind killing one of em right now (u think im just angry in which i am. but i am literally serious)
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    People die everyday.

    People have been killed based on their nationality since humans first lived.

    I know this sounds like i don't really care, i do, it's people should learn that people die. Some die young, some old. Some die due to natural causes, some are murdered, some are killed in accidents etc.

    In World War 2, 6million people (IIRC) were killed.

    EDIT - Guess not <!--QuoteBegin-KungFuSquirrel+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->6 million Jews from the holocaust alone. Russia took over 9 million military casualties, and about twice as many civilian casualties, from the looks of it. Hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths in many nations, millions in some. Estimated total from the source I just checked is 10 times greater than your number.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Last year 50 British soldiers (again IIRC) died in Iraq and people complained, demanded compensation and just generally overreacted.

    The people who died knew there was fighting going on. They probably knew the dangers and chose to go there anyway. It was their choice.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->White House spokesman Scott McLellan condemned the "horrific, despicable attacks,"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    We invaded their country... and yet you call this "horrific despicable attacks"?

    People have always done what's in their best intentions. You don't see many people giving away free things without any profit to them. The iraqis are simply doing what they think they should do to get what they want.

    I'm not saying that killing is wrong, nor am i saying people shouldn't morn the dead. I'm just saying people should stop making such a big deal about death.

    Flame away. I'm just saying that i think.
  • FuryFury Silver Fish Hand Catch Join Date: 2003-08-14 Member: 19673Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablus+Apr 1 2004, 06:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Apr 1 2004, 06:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its incidents like these your glad when an american soldier kills one of those ****

    we help them, we save them and thier famalies yet they are blinded from the brainwash that they are superior and americans are demons from hell. Pathetic. i actually woulnd't mind killing one of em right now (u think im just angry in which i am. but i am literally serious) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and this is why things like this happen

    Violence begets more violence.

    some people in iraq dont want to be under american ruling, which is fair enuf. i know i wouldnt. however i dont think that their way of killing and mutilating people and showing the bodys is a good way to tell america "we dont want you here"
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    *halts the thread in its tracks and sends it back away from the flames*
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+Mar 31 2004, 02:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ Mar 31 2004, 02:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In World War 2, 6million people (IIRC) were killed. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    6 million Jews from the holocaust alone. Russia took over 9 million military casualties, and about twice as many civilian casualties, from the looks of it. Hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths in many nations, millions in some. Estimated total from the source I just checked is 10 times greater than your number.

    What happened there in this attack was horrible, but those involved knew the risks they were taking by being in that country, and I'm assuming they also knew the risks of moving through a hostile area with no military escort. Still being there in the face of that risk is a level of courage I could never come anywhere near maintaining.
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    I say leave iraq and nuke the place. Let all of them suffer now that they have brough civillians into this.
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited March 2004
    These aren't the first civilian deaths in Iraq. Group of 4 missionaries/volunteers was killed just a week or two ago.

    Now, on that topic, I understand the need for contractors to be present in Iraq at this point in time in aiding with the reconstruction, but is there really any point in missionaries and volunteers showing up yet when there is still no guarantee of safety? I mean, sure, maybe they felt it was "their calling" to get there now to do the "most good" or something, but wouldn't their lives have culminated to more good if they weren't blown to pieces in the process? :-\
  • XiileXiile Join Date: 2003-02-22 Member: 13818Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Xzilen+Mar 31 2004, 03:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xzilen @ Mar 31 2004, 03:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I say leave iraq and nuke the place. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    ...

    at this point, I think if the US was nuked, most of the rest of the world would cheer in unison. I'd probably be with them, if I wasn't dead in the fireball.

    <a href='http://www.iraqbodycount.net/' target='_blank'>poor civilians indeed</a>
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DiscoZombie+Mar 31 2004, 03:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Mar 31 2004, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...

    at this point, I think if the US was nuked, most of the rest of the world would cheer in unison. I'd probably be with them, if I wasn't dead in the fireball.

    <a href='http://www.iraqbodycount.net/' target='_blank'>poor civilians indeed</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's beyond sick, man. How about if I danced on your grave because I hate you even though I've never met you? I think if there is a lesson to be learned, it isn't vengeance on either side.

    It's that war is hell.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    curious how you point me out but not the people before me who believe iraq should be nuked...
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I say leave iraq and nuke the place. Let all of them suffer now that they have brough civillians into this. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->at this point, I think if the US was nuked, most of the rest of the world would cheer in unison. I'd probably be with them, if I wasn't dead in the fireball.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Good? Should I quote the other threads?
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DiscoZombie+Mar 31 2004, 10:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Mar 31 2004, 10:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> at this point, I think if the US was nuked, most of the rest of the world would cheer in unison. I'd probably be with them, if I wasn't dead in the fireball.

    <a href='http://www.iraqbodycount.net/' target='_blank'>poor civilians indeed</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I know I wouldn't be happy. That's like saying I'd like half the internet cut off because I don't like a certain type of sites, or a supermarket razed down because I don't like spinach.
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Xzilen+Mar 31 2004, 08:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xzilen @ Mar 31 2004, 08:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I say leave iraq and nuke the place. Let all of them suffer now that they have brough civillians into this. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Remember that it is currently an unstable country. Many people there are just like you and me. They want to get on with their lifes. Would it be fair to just withdraw and nuke the country because of a few extremists?

    I never see any justification for weapons of mass destruction. Suppose you were an Iraqi sitting at your PC in Iraq right now, would you appreciate it if some superpower decided (out of the blue) to nuke you, your friends and family because some of their people got killed?
  • BeRzErKeRBeRzErKeR Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13691Members
    edited March 2004
    Throw Bush and the other high-up figures into a plane, drop them into Iraq, let them have the same thing done to them as those two people had to them and then nuke the place. Problem solved.

    *sigh* I don't really mean that and I know it's like BigMadSteve said, but I'm just so fed up with all the stupid fighting in the Middle East. Can't they just drop it already?
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    wow, I smell an Iraq 'disscussion' brewing, and without the rules of the disscussion forum, maybe ill lay into some of you guys...
    *glances at the admin stood behind him*

    ... another time.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    on another note, while mourning the deaths of these 9 soldiers, spare a thought for the 9000 civilians killed thus far.
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    they desicrate these peoples bodies which is ironic because they so we used dishonorable tactics in the fighting
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    freaking nuke the iraqui ****, <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    Think about it this way, we invaded into their country under suspicion that they had WMDs, which they repeatedly denied. Now after the war we find out, that infact, they really dont have anything. They were telling the truth. Now we hunted down their leader, of which many of them have been under for their entire lives thus far. And are now proceding to occupy their country and install a government for them. They must be pretty angry right? If you still don't get it try this one.

    Say, um, The league of nations decide that the US has gone out of control, attacking all these diffrent countries. So they all band together and start to take over the country. They start by bombing our major cities because they have military targets in them, of course many of us get killed, but those are just war casualties. They then procede to occupy all the major cities and hunt down the previous government. After they find/kill/capture them they start creating a "government" of people they deem worthy to run the country, obviously people you haven't voted for. Now think about how **** you would be.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Hawkeye+Mar 31 2004, 03:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkeye @ Mar 31 2004, 03:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4551230/' target='_blank'>Sick</a>

    How sad do you have to be to attack the people that are trying to help you in attempts to make things the way they were before?

    How bad to things have to be down there, that they would kill and sell their souls in order to have things the way they were before?

    I mean I know not everyone likes Americans. I'm not saying this. But oh my god.. I find it so hard to believe there are people that would kill only based on nationality. What's this world coming to? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ill say it again, people wouldn't hate the US if we didn't give them reasons to.
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Interesting that the Iraq Body Count site counts those killed in suicide and car bomb attacks as well... I thought the site was just for those killed directly by coalition action, not those killed by retaliatory action.

    Don't get me wrong, every one of those as a result of violence is a tragedy. However, it seems like there's a little number inflating going on.
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    edited March 2004
    Let's stop all the stereotyping of Iraqis right now. Many are happy that they have been freed by the Western world from a despicable dictator, some are none-too-happy but are willing to be patient and wait for the foreign forces to leave, and a select few are violent, psychotic militants who want to disrupt the reconstruction of Iraq.
    Now, this attack took place in an area of Baghdad in which support for Saddam was, and still is, huge, so it's no wonder they got ambushed, killed and paraded through the street in a horrible fashion.

    Stop crucifying the majority for the actions of the minority; it's a road that leads to ignorance, and we all know where ignorance leads.
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Free tickets to a Mets game...?

    But yes, I find the "kill them all" bits rather sickening. :-\
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-KungFuSquirrel+Mar 31 2004, 06:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Mar 31 2004, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Free tickets to a Mets game...?

    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You wish <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Mar 31 2004, 06:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Mar 31 2004, 06:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and we all know where ignorance leads. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, invading smaller nations that are a threat to our oil income <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited March 2004
    I was gona post something, but I was just to disgusted by you people.

    both sides.


    (note, I am not refering to those people discussing it, but instead those that either don't care that a group of people just died, or those that think exterminating a race is a good thing...)
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Mar 31 2004, 04:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Mar 31 2004, 04:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> or a supermarket razed down because I don't like spinach. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I know you weren't trying to make a joke, but that cracked me up.

    Stories like this just make me wonder how Bush sleeps at night with so many of our soldiers dying daily over there. It's really pretty disgusting. But, of course it was for the "good of democracy" and for "free nations everywhere," so what're the lives of a few grunts compared to that, eh?
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