ns_veil & ns_eclipse feedback

MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
edited November 2006 in NS General Discussion
I know 3.2 has only just been released, however I'm going to start this topic straight away as a central point for your feedback on the updates. Bugs, issues, likes, dislikes, balances, inbalances, future ideas, blatent fanboyism? Hit me up. Any bugs please hit me up with a screenshot! PS give me PT you ******** *** *** ****** ****** **** because I ******* deserve it!
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  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    Wouldn't the correct word be imbalances, Ben? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

    I really like the new c-12 area. The area round PSJ on ecl is great aswell. Much more balanced than before.






    PS:

    BEN I LOVE YOU
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  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    Get rid of the invisible walls :<
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  • AnAkInAnAkIn Join Date: 2006-09-18 Member: 58020Members
    add easter eggs ^^
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  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    Where are the invisible walls, spacejesus? You ###### inbred.
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  • ubermenschubermensch Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11692Banned
    ecl:

    I like the changes to the ceiling architecture in sloop, it makes it easier for skulks to go up/down the walls; I wish you could walk directly into the vents, however. A slight elevation on the vent opening makes it a pain to get into (seamless would be preferred). Was that intentional?

    I think the PSJ change is a HUGE enhancement over what is used to be. The open spaces are advantageous to rines, which is a welcome change. I also think the new vent slit in PSJ was a much needed addition.

    MS feels so naked and exposed, but I think this would only expedite the aleins' MS end-game cleanup, which is a positive change.

    CC also feels naked, but only visually. The ground water was pretty garnish, but it mostly served the purpose of an unnecessary combat obstacle. I won't miss it.

    Minor (with the exception of PSJ) changes overall, all of which I think are positive.
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  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    <!--quoteo(post=1579654:date=Nov 22 2006, 09:44 AM:name=MrBen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MrBen @ Nov 22 2006, 09:44 AM) [snapback]1579654[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Where are the invisible walls, spacejesus? You ###### inbred.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Looks like somebody can't take a joke <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    <!--quoteo(post=1579658:date=Nov 22 2006, 08:09 AM:name=SpaceJesus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SpaceJesus @ Nov 22 2006, 08:09 AM) [snapback]1579658[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Looks like somebody can't take a joke <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
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    Sarcasm++
    People understanding sarcasm--

    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • AnAkInAnAkIn Join Date: 2006-09-18 Member: 58020Members
    Open the secret vent in T Junction <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    Are the changes to c12 and PSJ playing okay then?
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  • glimmermanglimmerman Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28300Members, Constellation
    I think they're great, especially c12.
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  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    Yeah the C12 changes are great.
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  • enigmaenigma Join Date: 2004-09-11 Member: 31623Members
    all of the changes are great, especially the new lighting in sub/pipe/c12.
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  • N_3N_3 &#092;o/ Join Date: 2004-03-12 Member: 27291Members, Constellation
    med packs in sub hive, life is worth living again
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  • TerRaKanETerRaKanE Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16292Members, Constellation
    btw ben, could you tell me the env_gamma value for your maps?
    and do you probably know it of all the other maps too?
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  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    When you load the map it tells you the gamma change. It's the random number you get on the centre of your screen when you load it.
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1580906:date=Nov 26 2006, 03:18 PM:name=MrBen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MrBen @ Nov 26 2006, 03:18 PM) [snapback]1580906[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    When you load the map it tells you the gamma change. It's the random number you get on the centre of your screen when you load it.
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    Doesn't for me and for some reason never has in v3.x. I thought that it weren't supposed to now, so I take it I've just found a bug? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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  • pSyk0mAnpSyk0mAn Nerdish by Nature Germany Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19166Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    I miss the pipe in the corridor from dome to cargo on veil,
    everything else is great.
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  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1580908:date=Nov 26 2006, 04:33 PM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thaldarin @ Nov 26 2006, 04:33 PM) [snapback]1580908[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Doesn't for me and for some reason never has in v3.x. I thought that it weren't supposed to now, so I take it I've just found a bug? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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    I think you need developer 1 to see it.
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  • TerRaKanETerRaKanE Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16292Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1580955:date=Nov 26 2006, 06:58 PM:name=coris)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(coris @ Nov 26 2006, 06:58 PM) [snapback]1580955[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I think you need developer 1 to see it.
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    well it doesn't even work with developer 1
    i know it should be displayed that way, but it just doesnt work. I have no idea, thats why I asked for.
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  • SolitarioSolitario Join Date: 2006-10-29 Member: 58097Members
    The changes are good and make sense! Good job MrBen!!!!

    One question Ben, are you in the NS2-Team, too? Because the maps you made are the most famous maps, and I would like to see you working on NS2!
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    ben didn't make those maps.. he just maintains them.. KFS and... i forget who did nothing.. left while ago to work on quake 4.. and left these maps in his hands..
    but yes.. he is doing a good job keeping up on them.
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1581000:date=Nov 26 2006, 08:23 PM:name=ssjyoda)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ssjyoda @ Nov 26 2006, 08:23 PM) [snapback]1581000[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    ben didn't make those maps.. he just maintains them.. KFS and... i forget who did nothing.. left while ago to work on quake 4.. and left these maps in his hands..
    but yes.. he is doing a good job keeping up on them.
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    oh yeah.. well now that Q4 is done. they should come back.. Nothing is still my favorite map, well. visual wise. I love the high contrast lighting
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  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    Or they'll begin work on the next title?
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1581653:date=Nov 28 2006, 04:45 PM:name=MrBen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MrBen @ Nov 28 2006, 04:45 PM) [snapback]1581653[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Or they'll begin work on the next title?
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    As long as ID don't hire them to do something as similar like Quake 5 or Doom 4 or something stupid like that. Although hey if they're working on Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (Which I think is RavenSoft) it might be worth checking out. Bit O/T there, maybe KFS can fill us in on what he's working on next? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    So no one has found any bugs or underlying problems? Brilliant. Who rocks? I rock. Oh yeh.
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  • TerRaKanETerRaKanE Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16292Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1580909:date=Nov 26 2006, 04:38 PM:name=pSyk0mAn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pSyk0mAn @ Nov 26 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]1580909[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I miss the pipe in the corridor from dome to cargo on veil,
    everything else is great.
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    I havn't noticed it but, have you realy removed it?
    (btw I still need the env_gamma values LOL)
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  • tigersmithtigersmith Join Date: 2004-11-11 Member: 32749Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=1581000:date=Nov 26 2006, 03:23 PM:name=ssjyoda)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ssjyoda @ Nov 26 2006, 03:23 PM) [snapback]1581000[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> ben didn't make those maps.. he just maintains them.. KFS and... i forget who did nothing.. left while ago to work on quake 4.. and left these maps in his hands..
    but yes.. he is doing a good job keeping up on them. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    but..those quake 4 maps where godly..I remember playing through them knowing he did them and I was soo excited.
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    thats y they both better come back for ns2!
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  • BigDBigD [OldF] Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1596Members
    Based entirely on just walking around the maps for what its worth:

    C12 changes: I like'em. Might be too dark in that hallway though... and I can totally see that nub fade of mine catching that black thingee sticking out of the wall because I couldn't see it (just before you turn into the room with the rt there.) But the more I talk about it now, the more I remember it later so, meh, whatever. Not that I'm against the darkness actually, just the black thing in the dark that sticks out to catch me. Ha!
    All in all, nice polish.

    PSJ: I always liked those walls for skulking. Made for nice tight quarters. Might be too open now? (Openess is not something eclipse lacks by any means either imo.) Mind you, the missing wall in marine start should be nice now.

    I'll try to post some real feedback later after I've played them with other people.
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