<!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What all this adds up to is that what he said before and his 'suicide attempt' were cries for help.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have to agree. I also went through a friend's attempted suicide. However, there were no warning signs. She was the happiest college freshman that I knew. Then 2 weeks before finals she overdosed on a variety of things after her roommate went to bed. We were lucky that we found her early that morning and called 911. To this day she is glad that we found her and realized what she had done. She had left notes for all of her friends on the floor as if she would never speak to any of us again. She later said that she never wanted to die, but she didn't see any way out of what she was feeling.
All these actions are cries for help. Your friend needs help and by telling you that they are contemplating suicide, they are asking for help without realizing it. People who attempt suicide by taking pills or putting themselves in <b>potentially</b> deadly situations are perhaps realizing that there is something to live for. If they truly wanted to die, they would do something extreme, like shoot themselves or hang themselves (I knew someone that did that too).
The best advice I can give you is to be a good friend and listen to what they say. Help them if you can. Sometimes being a good friend is the best help of all. Good luck.
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 6 2005, 06:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 6 2005, 06:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Basically, I've got a friend who shall remain nameless (as if it would matter since this is a forum), who has managed to convince himself that life is not worth living, and damn he makes one good case. I talked to him on MSN for nearly 3 hours on the topic. He wants to kill himself, not because of some emo reason, but because he literally can not find a single reason worth living. He is a very intelligent person and had a decent life planned out for himself.
Then one day in highschool he just gave up on it all. Right after graduation he fell into a slump and became hugely anti-social. Didn't go out or do things with friends for nearly an entire year, and just recently visited some friends as a group. He dropped out of college, won't get a job, and I have talked to his parents saying he cries himself to sleep on a nightly basis, and I am at a complete loss as to what to do. I want to call someone but I don't know if he really would do it. He has said "I'd have killed myself long ago but I'm too much of a coward"
I have a pretty good idea that the reason he feels this way was a total complete heartbreak he went through during highschool, and after it happend he pretty much had a nervous breakdown. He claims he feels this way not for some "stupid emo reason" but he "can't analytically find a single logical reason to survive any longer"
:| <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but is this <i>really</i> your friend?
I seem to remember you saying the exact words "I'd have killed myself long ago but I'm too much of a coward" yourself.
Its a shame your friend lives in Americaland where proffessional help costs money, but if he's as serious about this as you make it sound, he's going to have to suck it up and pay out; it'll be worth it in the end.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nil IQ+Aug 7 2005, 02:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil IQ @ Aug 7 2005, 02:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 6 2005, 06:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 6 2005, 06:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Basically, I've got a friend who shall remain nameless (as if it would matter since this is a forum), who has managed to convince himself that life is not worth living, and damn he makes one good case. I talked to him on MSN for nearly 3 hours on the topic. He wants to kill himself, not because of some emo reason, but because he literally can not find a single reason worth living. He is a very intelligent person and had a decent life planned out for himself.
Then one day in highschool he just gave up on it all. Right after graduation he fell into a slump and became hugely anti-social. Didn't go out or do things with friends for nearly an entire year, and just recently visited some friends as a group. He dropped out of college, won't get a job, and I have talked to his parents saying he cries himself to sleep on a nightly basis, and I am at a complete loss as to what to do. I want to call someone but I don't know if he really would do it. He has said "I'd have killed myself long ago but I'm too much of a coward"
I have a pretty good idea that the reason he feels this way was a total complete heartbreak he went through during highschool, and after it happend he pretty much had a nervous breakdown. He claims he feels this way not for some "stupid emo reason" but he "can't analytically find a single logical reason to survive any longer"
:| <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but is this <i>really</i> your friend?
I seem to remember you saying the exact words "I'd have killed myself long ago but I'm too much of a coward" yourself.
Its a shame your friend lives in Americaland where proffessional help costs money, but if he's as serious about this as you make it sound, he's going to have to suck it up and pay out; it'll be worth it in the end. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i thought about that too, sounds like him, but maybe you should just concentrate on his friend
<!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Aug 7 2005, 01:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Aug 7 2005, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If it's CWAG's friend's right to end his life if he wants to, then it's also CWAG's right to try to prevent him from doing so. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not at all.
Its your right to eat at mcdonalds, but it is not my right to prevent you from doing so. I can try to convince you not to eat there, but ultimately it is your decision.
<!--QuoteBegin-Breakthrough+Aug 7 2005, 07:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Breakthrough @ Aug 7 2005, 07:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's the way I plan to die. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Why?
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Aug 7 2005, 09:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Aug 7 2005, 09:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Aug 7 2005, 01:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Aug 7 2005, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If it's CWAG's friend's right to end his life if he wants to, then it's also CWAG's right to try to prevent him from doing so. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not at all.
Its your right to eat at mcdonalds, but it is not my right to prevent you from doing so. I can try to convince you not to eat there, but ultimately it is your decision. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That was my point. It might not have been crystal-clear.
Buy him a computer, a copy of halflife + mods, and get him laied, he'll be back before the weekend. Doctors orders <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Drfuzzy+Aug 7 2005, 03:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drfuzzy @ Aug 7 2005, 03:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Buy him a computer, a copy of halflife + mods, and get him laied, he'll be back before the weekend. Doctors orders <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Getting him a video game and getting him laid are at two opposite ends of the Cool Spectrum, I'm afraid.
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<!--QuoteBegin-pardzh+Aug 7 2005, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pardzh @ Aug 7 2005, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Drfuzzy+Aug 7 2005, 03:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drfuzzy @ Aug 7 2005, 03:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Buy him a computer, a copy of halflife + mods, and get him laied, he'll be back before the weekend. Doctors orders <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Getting him a video game and getting him laid are at two opposite ends of the Cool Spectrum, I'm afraid. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> STOP RAINING ON MY PARADE
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Introduce him to a nice girl. Then he will forget all about suicide. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-WaterBoy+Aug 7 2005, 05:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WaterBoy @ Aug 7 2005, 05:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Introduce him to a nice girl. Then he will forget all about suicide. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> How about an emotionally destroyed one?
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I have to agree. I also went through a friend's attempted suicide. However, there were no warning signs. She was the happiest college freshman that I knew. Then 2 weeks before finals she overdosed on a variety of things after her roommate went to bed. We were lucky that we found her early that morning and called 911. To this day she is glad that we found her and realized what she had done. She had left notes for all of her friends on the floor as if she would never speak to any of us again. She later said that she never wanted to die, but she didn't see any way out of what she was feeling.
All these actions are cries for help. Your friend needs help and by telling you that they are contemplating suicide, they are asking for help without realizing it. People who attempt suicide by taking pills or putting themselves in <b>potentially</b> deadly situations are perhaps realizing that there is something to live for. If they truly wanted to die, they would do something extreme, like shoot themselves or hang themselves (I knew someone that did that too).
The best advice I can give you is to be a good friend and listen to what they say. Help them if you can. Sometimes being a good friend is the best help of all. Good luck.
Then one day in highschool he just gave up on it all. Right after graduation he fell into a slump and became hugely anti-social. Didn't go out or do things with friends for nearly an entire year, and just recently visited some friends as a group. He dropped out of college, won't get a job, and I have talked to his parents saying he cries himself to sleep on a nightly basis, and I am at a complete loss as to what to do. I want to call someone but I don't know if he really would do it. He has said "I'd have killed myself long ago but I'm too much of a coward"
I have a pretty good idea that the reason he feels this way was a total complete heartbreak he went through during highschool, and after it happend he pretty much had a nervous breakdown. He claims he feels this way not for some "stupid emo reason" but he "can't analytically find a single logical reason to survive any longer"
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You don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but is this <i>really</i> your friend?
I seem to remember you saying the exact words "I'd have killed myself long ago but I'm too much of a coward" yourself.
Its a shame your friend lives in Americaland where proffessional help costs money, but if he's as serious about this as you make it sound, he's going to have to suck it up and pay out; it'll be worth it in the end.
Then one day in highschool he just gave up on it all. Right after graduation he fell into a slump and became hugely anti-social. Didn't go out or do things with friends for nearly an entire year, and just recently visited some friends as a group. He dropped out of college, won't get a job, and I have talked to his parents saying he cries himself to sleep on a nightly basis, and I am at a complete loss as to what to do. I want to call someone but I don't know if he really would do it. He has said "I'd have killed myself long ago but I'm too much of a coward"
I have a pretty good idea that the reason he feels this way was a total complete heartbreak he went through during highschool, and after it happend he pretty much had a nervous breakdown. He claims he feels this way not for some "stupid emo reason" but he "can't analytically find a single logical reason to survive any longer"
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You don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but is this <i>really</i> your friend?
I seem to remember you saying the exact words "I'd have killed myself long ago but I'm too much of a coward" yourself.
Its a shame your friend lives in Americaland where proffessional help costs money, but if he's as serious about this as you make it sound, he's going to have to suck it up and pay out; it'll be worth it in the end. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i thought about that too, sounds like him, but maybe you should just concentrate on his friend
That's my outlook at least, but for some reason, I've always found suicide very interesting... That's the way I plan to die.
Not at all.
Its your right to eat at mcdonalds, but it is not my right to prevent you from doing so. I can try to convince you not to eat there, but ultimately it is your decision.
Why?
Not at all.
Its your right to eat at mcdonalds, but it is not my right to prevent you from doing so. I can try to convince you not to eat there, but ultimately it is your decision. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That was my point. It might not have been crystal-clear.
Getting him a video game and getting him laid are at two opposite ends of the Cool Spectrum, I'm afraid.
Getting him a video game and getting him laid are at two opposite ends of the Cool Spectrum, I'm afraid. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
STOP RAINING ON MY PARADE
How about an emotionally destroyed one?