I was half thinking to myself that i really wouldn't mind playing on a server knowning that it had the strictest of security. That all scripts and variations to the game weren't allowed to play. (Or perhaps i'm just looking at the other side of the discussion <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
Perhaps it's just all in my mind, but I really feel better knowing that the guy with 30-0 is actually good, but more importantly, is playing the same version of NS as me. No extra graphics additions (eg. bullet trails) and default netcode, similar to mine. Sure some people need different settings and that arguement is a good counter to mine, but there are already many servers like that.
All i'm after in a server is a smallish player count, no visable plugins, high admin count & the strictest vanilla game you can have.
<!--QuoteBegin-titanium+Jul 22 2005, 05:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (titanium @ Jul 22 2005, 05:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal KillR+Jul 21 2005, 10:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ Jul 21 2005, 10:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> titanium: Imagine it's a restaurant there's a difference between kicking a guest out and having a guest enter, forcing him to take his hatoff, then have two bouncers punch him in the stomach and tell him not to come again, rather than having a sign saying "please remove your hat" <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> your analogy is both inaccurate and irrelevent <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> To this specific topic it is.
He's not complaining about being kicked for scripts, he's not complaining about blockscripts, he's complaining becausea script out there banned for no reason (server plugin incompatibility or not)
I guess the analogy was a half-done job but who cares, the point is, it's not because it's not your server that the admin may treat you like bullcrap. I sure as hell wouldn't like to be your guest if you treat your guests like that.
<!--QuoteBegin-Crow+Jul 21 2005, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crow @ Jul 21 2005, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Perhaps it's just all in my mind, but I really feel better knowing that the guy with 30-0 is actually good, but more importantly, is playing the same version of NS as me. No extra graphics additions (eg. bullet trails) and default netcode, similar to mine. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> it is just in your mind because if he's going 30-0 with bullet tracers he's not suddenly going to go 2-15 without them
people customize their game because they like it better that way, not because it makes them go from a bad or mediocre player to an incredible player -- only hooks (such as an aimbot) can do that, and neither scripting nor changing your network settings are going to make that much of a difference regardless of what you tell yourself
do you really think that if you gave me or mustang a fresh install of natural selection we'd be horrible players unable to do anything? the fact that many people seriously belive much of a player's skill is derived from their game settings is ludicrous
<!--QuoteBegin-titanium+Jul 21 2005, 10:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (titanium @ Jul 21 2005, 10:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Crow+Jul 21 2005, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crow @ Jul 21 2005, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Perhaps it's just all in my mind, but I really feel better knowing that the guy with 30-0 is actually good, but more importantly, is playing the same version of NS as me. No extra graphics additions (eg. bullet trails) and default netcode, similar to mine. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> it is just in your mind because if he's going 30-0 with bullet tracers he's not suddenly going to go 2-15 without them
people customize their game because they like it better that way, not because it makes them go from a bad or mediocre player to an incredible player -- only hooks (such as an aimbot) can do that, and neither scripting nor changing your network settings are going to make that much of a difference regardless of what you tell yourself
do you really think that if you gave me or mustang a fresh install of natural selection we'd be horrible players unable to do anything? the fact that many people seriously belive much of a player's skill is derived from their game settings is ludicrous <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> *Applause*
<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal KillR+Jul 21 2005, 10:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ Jul 21 2005, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To this specific topic it is.
He's not complaining about being kicked for scripts, he's not complaining about blockscripts, he's complaining becausea script out there banned for no reason (server plugin incompatibility or not)
I guess the analogy was a half-done job but who cares, the point is, it's not because it's not your server that the admin may treat you like bullcrap. I sure as hell wouldn't like to be your guest if you treat your guests like that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> no it isn't relevant to any topic of this sort because you're comparing a real situation, where you are a paying customer confronted with physical contact in which you could sue for assault, to the way someone treats you in a videogame
no amount of hyperbole can make those relevant to each other
also the point <b>is</b> about the admin because the admin is the one who installed the plugin which kicked him in the first place, and whatever takes place as a result of plugins is ultimately a result of the server administrator's decisions
<!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jul 21 2005, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jul 21 2005, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 21 2005, 11:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 21 2005, 11:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jul 21 2005, 11:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jul 21 2005, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> how about remove it completely <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Won't happen too many exploitive scripts left over. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I know of like 1 exploitive script that isn't _special <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, you know of others, you just don't think of them as exploitive because to many players they are worse then the real thing. Any script that executes a skill for you is really exploitive, even if there are better alternitives, plus theres a few nasty one's left over like fastwalk and wigglewalk scripts that allow you to do things that aren't even close to humanly possible.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 21 2005, 11:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 21 2005, 11:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jul 21 2005, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jul 21 2005, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 21 2005, 11:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 21 2005, 11:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jul 21 2005, 11:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jul 21 2005, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> how about remove it completely <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Won't happen too many exploitive scripts left over. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I know of like 1 exploitive script that isn't _special <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, you know of others, you just don't think of them as exploitive because to many players they are worse then the real thing. Any script that executes a skill for you is really exploitive, even if there are better alternitives, plus theres a few nasty one's left over like fastwalk and wigglewalk scripts that allow you to do things that aren't even close to humanly possible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> what the **** is fastwalk people keep speaking of this thing
also DID YOU KNOW THAT you can fix exploits without just disabling scripts and that's a lazyass way to go about it, and they can be automated/macroed/etc'd without scripts?
Fixing all the engine bugs of HL would be a nice thing... but I doubt anyone wants to undertake it, especially with Source looming about.
@topic: banning people for scripting is not very nice. Sure, the server admins might not want scripts on their server, and that's fine. But mp_bs 1 is a sort of warning, and it works fine (let's not talk about whether it's effective or not, that's for another thread). There's no need to ban; seeing a "scripting is not allowed on this server" message tells the scripting player to switch over to his script-free config, and continue playing normally.
With this plugin, the message being spread is that scripts are like hacks, that those who use them are really evil mean men who have nothing better to do than ravage servers with their scripting prowess and cause havoc everywhere. It's not like that... most of the time, you can't even tell whether someone's scripting or not.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 21 2005, 11:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 21 2005, 11:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jul 21 2005, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jul 21 2005, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 21 2005, 11:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 21 2005, 11:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jul 21 2005, 11:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jul 21 2005, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> how about remove it completely <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Won't happen too many exploitive scripts left over. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I know of like 1 exploitive script that isn't _special <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, you know of others, you just don't think of them as exploitive because to many players they are worse then the real thing. Any script that executes a skill for you is really exploitive, even if there are better alternitives, plus theres a few nasty one's left over like fastwalk and wigglewalk scripts that allow you to do things that aren't even close to humanly possible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ok make a list of exploitive scrips ready set go oh wait- plus, as joe mentioned, why not FIX the problem instead of throwing on a blanket solution?
<!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jul 22 2005, 12:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jul 22 2005, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> why not FIX the problem instead of throwing on a blanket solution? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> correct because blockscripts is pointless -- if i really wanted to script something i could either google for a program to run a macro for me and find one in 5 minutes or i could write my own program which does exactly what i want almost as easily
I believe banning for scripting is the most stupid thing i have ever heard what **** decided to make that plugin then?
Scripts give no real advantage over a non-scripting player i still can't believe that the server ops who use this plugin believe that scripting gives the scripter a big advantage.
It also makes me chuckle that someone would come up with a ban for scripting plugn-in. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-titanium+Jul 22 2005, 04:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (titanium @ Jul 22 2005, 04:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> do you really think that if you gave me or mustang a fresh install of natural selection we'd be horrible players unable to do anything? the fact that many people seriously belive much of a player's skill is derived from their game settings is ludicrous <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Sadly, many people think this.
As for the plugin (returning to topic), I've seen a lot of very bad anti-cheat plugins lately. Apparently so many good players have left NS that when one is spotted on a pub server, it's so completely foreign to most players that they assume it can ONLY be due to h4x.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 21 2005, 11:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 21 2005, 11:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jul 21 2005, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jul 21 2005, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 21 2005, 11:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 21 2005, 11:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven+Jul 21 2005, 11:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JmmsbndZeroZeroSeven @ Jul 21 2005, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> how about remove it completely <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Won't happen too many exploitive scripts left over. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I know of like 1 exploitive script that isn't _special <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, you know of others, you just don't think of them as exploitive because to many players they are worse then the real thing. Any script that executes a skill for you is really exploitive, even if there are better alternitives, plus theres a few nasty one's left over like fastwalk and wigglewalk scripts that allow you to do things that aren't even close to humanly possible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have never heard of a script that executes a "skill". And wiggle walk like almost all other scripts causes more problems than it helps. All scripts are handicaps that are useful for someone with bad fps or other such problems. For example 3jump is popular because you cant bhop conistantly without having good fps, and if that wasnt true then they wouldnt use the script because it actually makes to go slower than +jump bhoping.
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Perhaps it's just all in my mind, but I really feel better knowing that the guy with 30-0 is actually good, but more importantly, is playing the same version of NS as me. No extra graphics additions (eg. bullet trails) and default netcode, similar to mine. Sure some people need different settings and that arguement is a good counter to mine, but there are already many servers like that.
All i'm after in a server is a smallish player count, no visable plugins, high admin count & the strictest vanilla game you can have.
Clean, fresh, new and standard.
Oh how boring....
your analogy is both inaccurate and irrelevent <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
To this specific topic it is.
He's not complaining about being kicked for scripts, he's not complaining about blockscripts, he's complaining becausea script out there banned for no reason (server plugin incompatibility or not)
I guess the analogy was a half-done job but who cares, the point is, it's not because it's not your server that the admin may treat you like bullcrap. I sure as hell wouldn't like to be your guest if you treat your guests like that.
it is just in your mind because if he's going 30-0 with bullet tracers he's not suddenly going to go 2-15 without them
people customize their game because they like it better that way, not because it makes them go from a bad or mediocre player to an incredible player -- only hooks (such as an aimbot) can do that, and neither scripting nor changing your network settings are going to make that much of a difference regardless of what you tell yourself
do you really think that if you gave me or mustang a fresh install of natural selection we'd be horrible players unable to do anything? the fact that many people seriously belive much of a player's skill is derived from their game settings is ludicrous
it is just in your mind because if he's going 30-0 with bullet tracers he's not suddenly going to go 2-15 without them
people customize their game because they like it better that way, not because it makes them go from a bad or mediocre player to an incredible player -- only hooks (such as an aimbot) can do that, and neither scripting nor changing your network settings are going to make that much of a difference regardless of what you tell yourself
do you really think that if you gave me or mustang a fresh install of natural selection we'd be horrible players unable to do anything? the fact that many people seriously belive much of a player's skill is derived from their game settings is ludicrous <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
*Applause*
He's not complaining about being kicked for scripts, he's not complaining about blockscripts, he's complaining becausea script out there banned for no reason (server plugin incompatibility or not)
I guess the analogy was a half-done job but who cares, the point is, it's not because it's not your server that the admin may treat you like bullcrap. I sure as hell wouldn't like to be your guest if you treat your guests like that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
no it isn't relevant to any topic of this sort because you're comparing a real situation, where you are a paying customer confronted with physical contact in which you could sue for assault, to the way someone treats you in a videogame
no amount of hyperbole can make those relevant to each other
also the point <b>is</b> about the admin because the admin is the one who installed the plugin which kicked him in the first place, and whatever takes place as a result of plugins is ultimately a result of the server administrator's decisions
this discussion is ridiculous
oh really
Won't happen too many exploitive scripts left over.
Won't happen too many exploitive scripts left over. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know of like 1 exploitive script that isn't _special
Won't happen too many exploitive scripts left over. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know of like 1 exploitive script that isn't _special <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, you know of others, you just don't think of them as exploitive because to many players they are worse then the real thing. Any script that executes a skill for you is really exploitive, even if there are better alternitives, plus theres a few nasty one's left over like fastwalk and wigglewalk scripts that allow you to do things that aren't even close to humanly possible.
Won't happen too many exploitive scripts left over. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know of like 1 exploitive script that isn't _special <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, you know of others, you just don't think of them as exploitive because to many players they are worse then the real thing. Any script that executes a skill for you is really exploitive, even if there are better alternitives, plus theres a few nasty one's left over like fastwalk and wigglewalk scripts that allow you to do things that aren't even close to humanly possible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what the **** is fastwalk people keep speaking of this thing
also DID YOU KNOW THAT you can fix exploits without just disabling scripts and that's a lazyass way to go about it, and they can be automated/macroed/etc'd without scripts?
@topic: banning people for scripting is not very nice. Sure, the server admins might not want scripts on their server, and that's fine. But mp_bs 1 is a sort of warning, and it works fine (let's not talk about whether it's effective or not, that's for another thread). There's no need to ban; seeing a "scripting is not allowed on this server" message tells the scripting player to switch over to his script-free config, and continue playing normally.
With this plugin, the message being spread is that scripts are like hacks, that those who use them are really evil mean men who have nothing better to do than ravage servers with their scripting prowess and cause havoc everywhere. It's not like that... most of the time, you can't even tell whether someone's scripting or not.
I agree with Jmms and titanium, someone check if the rest of the seals of the apocolypse are occuring.
Won't happen too many exploitive scripts left over. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know of like 1 exploitive script that isn't _special <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, you know of others, you just don't think of them as exploitive because to many players they are worse then the real thing. Any script that executes a skill for you is really exploitive, even if there are better alternitives, plus theres a few nasty one's left over like fastwalk and wigglewalk scripts that allow you to do things that aren't even close to humanly possible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ok make a list of exploitive scrips
ready set go
oh wait-
plus, as joe mentioned, why not FIX the problem instead of throwing on a blanket solution?
correct because blockscripts is pointless -- if i really wanted to script something i could either google for a program to run a macro for me and find one in 5 minutes or i could write my own program which does exactly what i want almost as easily
I believe banning for scripting is the most stupid thing i have ever heard what **** decided to make that plugin then?
Scripts give no real advantage over a non-scripting player i still can't believe that the server ops who use this plugin believe that scripting gives the scripter a big advantage.
It also makes me chuckle that someone would come up with a ban for scripting plugn-in. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Sadly, many people think this.
As for the plugin (returning to topic), I've seen a lot of very bad anti-cheat plugins lately. Apparently so many good players have left NS that when one is spotted on a pub server, it's so completely foreign to most players that they assume it can ONLY be due to h4x.
Won't happen too many exploitive scripts left over. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know of like 1 exploitive script that isn't _special <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, you know of others, you just don't think of them as exploitive because to many players they are worse then the real thing. Any script that executes a skill for you is really exploitive, even if there are better alternitives, plus theres a few nasty one's left over like fastwalk and wigglewalk scripts that allow you to do things that aren't even close to humanly possible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have never heard of a script that executes a "skill". And wiggle walk like almost all other scripts causes more problems than it helps. All scripts are handicaps that are useful for someone with bad fps or other such problems. For example 3jump is popular because you cant bhop conistantly without having good fps, and if that wasnt true then they wouldnt use the script because it actually makes to go slower than +jump bhoping.