What's all this nonsense about there only being two styles of lerking?
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<!--QuoteBegin-J !+Jul 20 2005, 08:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (J ! @ Jul 20 2005, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's all this nonsense about there only being two styles of lerking?
"Be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend." -Bruce Lee
Bruce would have owned at lerking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> word.
<!--QuoteBegin-J !+Jul 20 2005, 05:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (J ! @ Jul 20 2005, 05:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's all this nonsense about there only being two styles of lerking?
"Be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend." -Bruce Lee
Bruce would have owned at lerking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Azn tbh.
<!--QuoteBegin-MrGunner+Jul 20 2005, 01:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrGunner @ Jul 20 2005, 01:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah playing euros is so much fun too. Bites not regging, warping, shooting through walls. I FORGOT THAT HIGH PING WAS ONLY A DISADVANTAGE FOR YOU. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Give me delayed reg on 150ms ping enemies over delayed attacks any day.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cheese+Jul 18 2005, 10:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cheese @ Jul 18 2005, 10:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yes...early combat lerks close the gap between skulks and fades. But if they die before they have 30 res their team has a real big problem! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Bear in mind that early lerks can also waste enemy res, which in the grand scale of the res balance, is just the same as getting personal res. Think of it like a see-saw, you can capitalise on denying the enemy res or wasting their res just as well as RFK, you just have to know which of the three you're doing and how best to exploit it.
mst is one of my fav lerks in the EU, proabably my favorite. He isnt aggressive, he just spores like the adrenaline **** that he is, he will get kills like a sweeper of sorts when needed but generally never dies (when not out of praccy). After playing against him as a comm, he will constantly keep most of the marines on 0 armour just from sporing the entire flipping map.
<!--QuoteBegin-J !+Jul 20 2005, 05:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (J ! @ Jul 20 2005, 05:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's all this nonsense about there only being two styles of lerking?
"Be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend." -Bruce Lee
Bruce would have owned at lerking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Gold.
Hellabean is a newbie from what I've heard, he also takes it up the rear pretty hard and very frequently.
<!--QuoteBegin-Lump+Jul 21 2005, 08:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lump @ Jul 21 2005, 08:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mst is one of my fav lerks in the EU, proabably my favorite. He isnt aggressive, he just spores like the adrenaline **** that he is, he will get kills like a sweeper of sorts when needed but generally never dies (when not out of praccy). After playing against him as a comm, he will constantly keep most of the marines on 0 armour just from sporing the entire flipping map.
*just to add another perspective* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> drop welders then if you're the comm. welders are what counter spore, not medpacks.
<!--QuoteBegin-joee+Jul 21 2005, 11:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (joee @ Jul 21 2005, 11:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Lump+Jul 21 2005, 08:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lump @ Jul 21 2005, 08:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mst is one of my fav lerks in the EU, proabably my favorite. He isnt aggressive, he just spores like the adrenaline **** that he is, he will get kills like a sweeper of sorts when needed but generally never dies (when not out of praccy). After playing against him as a comm, he will constantly keep most of the marines on 0 armour just from sporing the entire flipping map.
*just to add another perspective* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> drop welders then if you're the comm. welders are what counter spore, not medpacks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> sigh.. marines dont weld constantly, they need to be able to cover, move, fire etc and often want to be fast. Yes im not stupid i know how to counter spores but when you have a lerk like mst CONSTANTLY sporing your marines its quite a different story.
<!--QuoteBegin-Reptile!au+Jul 21 2005, 09:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Reptile!au @ Jul 21 2005, 09:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-J !+Jul 20 2005, 05:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (J ! @ Jul 20 2005, 05:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's all this nonsense about there only being two styles of lerking?
"Be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend." -Bruce Lee
Bruce would have owned at lerking. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Gold.
Hellabean is a newbie from what I've heard, he also takes it up the rear pretty hard and very frequently. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> noob aussie playtester tbh
mst's lerking is certainly a nuisance but spores won't keep an entire marine team at bay, and it's somewhat ineffective these days. For starters the lerk is limited by the number of vents available and futher more spores don't stack, so you don't need adrenaline to spore effectively. One cloud with celerity does the same as 4 clouds spammed with adrenaline, but if the lerk takes adrenaline and decides to leave the safety of his vent, well, we all know what happens then. Good MC placement at critical junctions (cargo vent on veil, double vent on veil etc) can provide the adrenaline bonus allowing lerks to spore (spam yey?!) whilst taking celerity and still being combat efficient.
he doesnt stack, he spreads at various locations of the map, if a large group of marines are being spored they can split up and take minimal armour loss from the spores, with mst he will keep the spores spread making it harder to do this. Also he is more able to track their movements with a almost constant path of spores preventing their movement.
not all maps have possible locations for MC's that would give them an effective energy boost in a crucial position.
mst doesnt "keep a team at bay" as he isnt aiming to, he is a support lifeform which keeps armour low and tries to slow down progress.
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"Be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend."
-Bruce Lee
Bruce would have owned at lerking.
"Be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend."
-Bruce Lee
Bruce would have owned at lerking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
word.
"Be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend."
-Bruce Lee
Bruce would have owned at lerking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Azn tbh.
Give me delayed reg on 150ms ping enemies over delayed attacks any day.
(i.e. 50ms > 150ms)
omg what is it? your girlfriend? the classic aus gamer? a lerk in disguise?
<b>edit:</b> its teh buz!!1!
But if they die before they have 30 res their team has a real big problem! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bear in mind that early lerks can also waste enemy res, which in the grand scale of the res balance, is just the same as getting personal res. Think of it like a see-saw, you can capitalise on denying the enemy res or wasting their res just as well as RFK, you just have to know which of the three you're doing and how best to exploit it.
*just to add another perspective*
"Be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend."
-Bruce Lee
Bruce would have owned at lerking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gold.
Hellabean is a newbie from what I've heard, he also takes it up the rear pretty hard and very frequently.
*just to add another perspective* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
drop welders then if you're the comm. welders are what counter spore, not medpacks.
*just to add another perspective* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
drop welders then if you're the comm. welders are what counter spore, not medpacks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
sigh.. marines dont weld constantly, they need to be able to cover, move, fire etc and often want to be fast. Yes im not stupid i know how to counter spores but when you have a lerk like mst CONSTANTLY sporing your marines its quite a different story.
"Be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend."
-Bruce Lee
Bruce would have owned at lerking. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gold.
Hellabean is a newbie from what I've heard, he also takes it up the rear pretty hard and very frequently. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> noob aussie playtester tbh
not all maps have possible locations for MC's that would give them an effective energy boost in a crucial position.
mst doesnt "keep a team at bay" as he isnt aiming to, he is a support lifeform which keeps armour low and tries to slow down progress.