Confessions Of A Smurf

FlounderFlounder Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31656Members
Yeah I know smurfing refers to someone who's actually good like [t]Mustang (Not that he does this, I'm just using him as an example cause he's 100 times better than me and most people have heard about him.) So before you write, "you have to be good to smurf you idiot," I'm gonna say it also means anyone who plays by a name other than their "official" name. I've actually been kicked/banned from a few servers simply because I haven't used this name. (Along with other asshattery of course, but they cited this as an extra reason to ban.)

Problem is, I don't like playing under it. When I choose a dumb name like (8)NSPlayer or My Dad Loves Your Dad, it makes the came more carefree. I actually play better too. I don't understand that part, but I do.

I know Flayra and Zero are pushing for everyone to have an official handle so we can track anyone in the community, either to make friends or to track down cheaters. But by doing that you make the game and the community into something serious. I use this game to get <i>away</i> from my identity, not to make a new one I have to worry about. Isn't that the whole reason people made games?

I know this topic probably doesn't apply to anyone but me, and there are more important things to talk about with what happened in London, so this will just be my late night rant. And if I'm completely wrong and Flayra and Zero haven't said this and I've made it up and everyone loves smurfing and even that term is made up, then I've just wasted a good 10 minutes I could have spent comming a game as No Commander.


alien(admin): This is ridiculous, this game is so stacked.
marine(clanner): not stacked, nsplayer is comm
alien: the SAME nsplayer that went 8-0 last game?
nsplayer: 9-0
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  • A_Boojum_SnarkA_Boojum_Snark Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20628Members
    I know what you mean, I find I have much more fun and possibly do better when smurfing because it is much more carefree.
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    edited July 2005
    no-one cares if you smurf

    edit: and yes it looks pretty dumb if a smurf isnt the top scorer or at least close (and yes this might sound ironic as hell)
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    You can call yourself whatever you want, but masquerading as an NSPlayer really just isn't funny anymore. Sorry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • InFlamesInFlames Join Date: 2004-10-22 Member: 32396Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Flounder+Jul 8 2005, 02:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flounder @ Jul 8 2005, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And if I'm completely wrong and Flayra and Zero haven't said this and I've made it up and everyone loves smurfing and even that term is made up, then I've just wasted a good 10 minutes I could have spent comming a game as No Commander.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->

    lmao, you in an irritable mood then?

    I also play under a different name on select servers, mainly due to the way I am unable to keep my trap shut at idiots yelling hax at people I know who blatently dont. Server admins being mini hitlers etc... Admitedly this only applies to 2 servers that my clan also play on a little, hence me changing my name so its not immediatly recognisable. That and the fact people dont like getting killed by NSplayer's hillarious...

    Anyway none of the above is supposed to be meant in a bad way, just ease of use when im in a no noob tolleration mood.
  • Blammo8Blammo8 Join Date: 2005-02-06 Member: 40141Members
    Done that once. The bitchass regs who I play with every day didn't even recognise my voice after playing all day <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Must be my crappy mike <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> or... they just don't lub me.
    I found playing under a different name very fun to do for some reason. I think mainly because other people don't have expectations of you. I got a few compliments for good comming from the regs which I don't get when I play under my real nick because they know I can comm.
  • Garet_JaxGaret_Jax Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13870Members, Constellation
    I think fakenicking is incredibly childish, done by those who think they are pro players. In my opinion, the only people who should do it should be the truely elite players (knife, lessthanthree, exi, terror).

    I only see 3 reasons for fakenicking:

    1. To cheat
    2. To ruin the game (building 5 IPs at the start, dropping DCs at the start, etc...)
    3. To not let the opposition know who you are, becuase you truely are an elite player, and they will probably quit when they see you.

    95% of fakenickers don't do it becuase of the 3 reasons above. They almost always whine a lot (-random player- killed d with LMG... <d> GET SOME RATES, FS.), but that's their nature, I think.

    What <b>really</b> gets to me is the kids who use a single letter of the alphabet for their name- it makes communicating in the team much harder than it has to be (imagine telling someone named "i" to go somewhere, you will sound like someone with bad English referring to theirselves).

    It's just a name, take a proper one, and keep that one, kthx.
  • tankefugltankefugl One Script To Rule Them All... Trondheim, Norway Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    I changed my nick frequently for around half a year, mostly because I enjoyed making up (somewhat weird) names. Not because I was particulary good, cheating or attempting to ruin the game, but I guess I'm a bit childish ... right, sherpa? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BreakthroughBreakthrough Texture Artist (ns_prometheus) Join Date: 2005-03-27 Member: 46620Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-tankefugl+Jul 8 2005, 06:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tankefugl @ Jul 8 2005, 06:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I changed my nick frequently for around half a year, mostly because I enjoyed making up (somewhat weird) names. Not because I was particulary good, cheating or attempting to ruin the game, but I guess I'm a bit childish ... right, sherpa? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think that <b>tankefugl</b> is an awesome nickname...
  • InFlamesInFlames Join Date: 2004-10-22 Member: 32396Members, Constellation
    edited July 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Garet Jax+Jul 8 2005, 05:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Garet Jax @ Jul 8 2005, 05:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think fakenicking is incredibly childish, done by those who think they are pro players. In my opinion, the only people who should do it should be the truely elite players (knife, lessthanthree, exi, terror).

    I only see 3 reasons for fakenicking:

    1. To cheat
    2. To ruin the game (building 5 IPs at the start, dropping DCs at the start, etc...)
    3. To not let the opposition know who you are, becuase you truely are an elite player, and they will probably quit when they see you.

    95% of fakenickers don't do it becuase of the 3 reasons above. They almost always whine a lot (-random player- killed d with LMG...  <d> GET SOME RATES, FS.), but that's their nature, I think.

    What <b>really</b> gets to me is the kids who use a single letter of the alphabet for their name- it makes communicating in the team much harder than it has to be (imagine telling someone named "i" to go somewhere, you will sound like someone with bad English referring to theirselves).

    It's just a name, take a proper one, and keep that one, kthx. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice and biased there <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Isnt it possible that somepeople fake nick as they choose to? and to not do any of the 3 reasons you stated, and be pants at the game too?

    But I agree kids with randomly created letter / number names irritates me, the only reason for these names I can think of is to make it a pain in the **** to kick them
  • Blammo8Blammo8 Join Date: 2005-02-06 Member: 40141Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Garet Jax+Jul 8 2005, 12:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Garet Jax @ Jul 8 2005, 12:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I only see 3 reasons for fakenicking: <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    shortsighted
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zek+Jul 8 2005, 05:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Jul 8 2005, 05:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You can call yourself whatever you want, but masquerading as an NSPlayer really just isn't funny anymore. Sorry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Zek is my hero, and 110% correct regarding this issue. Call yourself whatever you like (except NSPlayer) and enjoy your rights. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Garet Jax+Jul 8 2005, 05:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Garet Jax @ Jul 8 2005, 05:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think fakenicking is incredibly childish, done by those who think they are pro players. In my opinion, the only people who should do it should be the truely elite players (knife, lessthanthree, exi, terror).

    I only see 3 reasons for fakenicking:

    1. To cheat
    2. To ruin the game (building 5 IPs at the start, dropping DCs at the start, etc...)
    3. To not let the opposition know who you are, becuase you truely are an elite player, and they will probably quit when they see you.

    95% of fakenickers don't do it becuase of the 3 reasons above. They almost always whine a lot (-random player- killed d with LMG... <d> GET SOME RATES, FS.), but that's their nature, I think.

    What <b>really</b> gets to me is the kids who use a single letter of the alphabet for their name- it makes communicating in the team much harder than it has to be (imagine telling someone named "i" to go somewhere, you will sound like someone with bad English referring to theirselves).

    It's just a name, take a proper one, and keep that one, kthx. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i actually fakenick to hide from coris
  • Mac1OManMac1OMan Join Date: 2004-10-29 Member: 32510Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    I really dont see the point in changing your name other than

    1) You Cheat
    2) You Plan To screw a game
    3) You are cursing an admin or whatever
    4) You are purposly breaking the rules
    5) You are hated and have to hide
    6) You are to l337 or whatever the **** (wth is with this ****)

    (few of these have been restated)

    I've seen people join in groups with names like "Noob Server, Newb Server, **** Server, and so on all in 1 group (they plan it on teamspeak or whatever) its just a retarded thing, i hate people who do this, its not a crime or whatever its just plan annoying, pointlessness most of the time (and theres really nothing you can do) lol i havent played ns but maybe 20 games in the passed 7 months, this is probably the least reason why i quit (i actualy didnt even think of it) i just got bored of the same old ns, no big changes, plus so many games have come out, awsome games like battlefield 2 will keep me busy till ns:s comes out
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mac1OMan+Jul 8 2005, 08:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mac1OMan @ Jul 8 2005, 08:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I really dont see the point in changing your name other than

    1) You Cheat
    2) You Plan To screw a game
    3) You are cursing an admin or whatever
    4) You are purposly breaking the rules
    5) You are hated and have to hide
    6) You are to l337 or whatever the **** (wth is with this ****)

    (few of these have been restated)

    I've seen people join in groups with names like "Noob Server, Newb Server, **** Server, and so on all in 1 group (they plan it on teamspeak or whatever) its just a retarded thing, i hate people who do this, its not a crime or whatever its just plan annoying, pointlessness most of the time (and theres really nothing you can do) lol i havent played ns but maybe 20 games in the passed 7 months, this is probably the least reason why i quit (i actualy didnt even think of it) i just got bored of the same old ns, no big changes, plus so many games have come out, awsome games like battlefield 2 will keep me busy till ns:s comes out<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    7) You have the ability to and it's your right to call yourself whatever you damn well please. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    Back in the day you were a "llama" is you played under a different name (note: not lamer).
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    edited July 2005
    Seriously, the people where I care about the consistency of my identity a) often recognize the pattern b) tend to be on ventrilo with me. Other than that, why not freshen things up a bit with new names every now and then?

    Plus, with the unreliability of going by name, you get to recognize frequent players movement and behavioral patterns more poignantly than if they permanently stuck to their nicks. Also, <b>if you really care theres both friends and steamids (google or amped search) to verify a persons identity.</b> I don't honestly think anyone really changes their nick to avoid detection (well, from GameTiger some people do - so you can't find out what server they're on, unless you randomly stumble across said server).

    So yeah, this whole smurfing thing is more of a semi-transparent attempt to find weak grounds for some good ol' pointless hating. Gotta keep yourself busy with something <i>if you freakin' suck at NS/life/googling</i>.
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    man of many names!
  • RobertoRoberto Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14591Members, Constellation
    Smurfing lets me be on the same team as my friend without people complaining at the beginning.
  • Mac1OManMac1OMan Join Date: 2004-10-29 Member: 32510Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jul 8 2005, 08:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jul 8 2005, 08:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mac1OMan+Jul 8 2005, 08:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mac1OMan @ Jul 8 2005, 08:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I really dont see the point in changing your name other than

    1) You Cheat
    2) You Plan To screw a game
    3) You are cursing an admin or whatever
    4) You are purposly breaking the rules
    5) You are hated and have to hide
    6) You are to l337 or whatever the **** (wth is with this ****)

    (few of these have been restated)

    I've seen people join in groups with names like "Noob Server, Newb Server, **** Server, and so on all in 1 group (they plan it on teamspeak or whatever) its just a retarded thing, i hate people who do this, its not a crime or whatever its just plan annoying, pointlessness most of the time (and theres really nothing you can do) lol i havent played ns but maybe 20 games in the passed 7 months, this is probably the least reason why i quit (i actualy didnt even think of it) i just got bored of the same old ns, no big changes, plus so many games have come out, awsome games like battlefield 2 will keep me busy till ns:s comes out<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    7) You have the ability to and it's your right to call yourself whatever you damn well please. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i catch that number 7, but thats just a part of 1 of the othernumbers in most cases (its simply annoying but i dont plan to stop it, its not really a big deal)
  • eliotmateliotmat Join Date: 2002-12-01 Member: 10350Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited July 2005
    I smurf as the following<ul><li>www.tubgirl.com</li><li>LindsayLohan'sTitties</li></ul>
    I just smurf for the fun of it.

    I use other names when I don't want people stacking my team or trying to talk to me.
  • CrotalusCrotalus Join Date: 2003-12-02 Member: 23871Members
    edited July 2005
    I only change my name if I plan on hacking,
    keeping my identity safe while I do something
    that would make me seem bad, I rarely ever
    do it for the "fun of it"

    EDIT: Oh cmon, you guys can't tell me you've
    never gotten curious once? I used a hack before,
    for like a week or so, I seriously oppose cheating though...
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jul 8 2005, 12:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jul 8 2005, 12:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Garet Jax+Jul 8 2005, 05:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Garet Jax @ Jul 8 2005, 05:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think fakenicking is incredibly childish, done by those who think they are pro players. In my opinion, the only people who should do it should be the truely elite players (knife, lessthanthree, exi, terror).

    I only see 3 reasons for fakenicking:

    1. To cheat
    2. To ruin the game (building 5 IPs at the start, dropping DCs at the start, etc...)
    3. To not let the opposition know who you are, becuase you truely are an elite player, and they will probably quit when they see you.

    95% of fakenickers don't do it becuase of the 3 reasons above. They almost always whine a lot (-random player- killed d with LMG...  <d> GET SOME RATES, FS.), but that's their nature, I think.

    What <b>really</b> gets to me is the kids who use a single letter of the alphabet for their name- it makes communicating in the team much harder than it has to be (imagine telling someone named "i" to go somewhere, you will sound like someone with bad English referring to theirselves).

    It's just a name, take a proper one, and keep that one, kthx. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i actually fakenick to hide from coris <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You're not the only one doing that mister.



























    HI SNOWFLAKE^_^
  • princessprincess Yaaar&#33; Bristol Join Date: 2004-09-11 Member: 31605Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Subnautica Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Crotalus+Jul 8 2005, 04:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crotalus @ Jul 8 2005, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I only change my name if I plan on hacking (cheating, whatever) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Erm... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • daidalosdaidalos Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28854Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Crotalus+Jul 8 2005, 05:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crotalus @ Jul 8 2005, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I only change my name if I plan on hacking (cheating, whatever)[...] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well :/
    ....

    Faking the nick can be fun sometimes. But tbh, it is absolutly senseless.
    I mean, who cares? As long as you are not hated by a specific on a specific server. :|
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Crotalus+Jul 8 2005, 11:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crotalus @ Jul 8 2005, 11:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I only change my name if I plan on hacking (cheating, whatever) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Confessing of hacking/cheating on the mod forums itself.
    Network-wide ban please <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    @topic: smurfing is good because people don't have any expectations of you, and won't blame you if you don't do well - which isn't expected.
  • joeejoee Join Date: 2005-06-18 Member: 54113Members
    we have a tracking system it's called steamid's
  • joeejoee Join Date: 2005-06-18 Member: 54113Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jul 8 2005, 03:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jul 8 2005, 03:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> no-one cares if you smurf

    edit: and yes it looks pretty dumb if a smurf isnt the top scorer or at least close (and yes this might sound ironic as hell) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol if you're not doing good you're not a smurf just a random guy
  • CrotalusCrotalus Join Date: 2003-12-02 Member: 23871Members
    edited July 2005
    Jeez chill out, I don't really cheat, I tried it once, something called BuZZ Hook or something, I mean we all get curious sometime don't we?

    I really don't see the point of smurfing too much though, I like to keep one alias so I can be identified easily...you mean people will blame you if you happen to not live up to one's expectations? I say screw them, this is a game, your supposed to have fun, not work up a sweat trying to impress people...
  • SlithSlith Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15015Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Crotalus+Jul 8 2005, 10:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crotalus @ Jul 8 2005, 10:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Jeez chill out, I don't really cheat, I tried it once,
    something called BuZZ Hook or something, I mean
    we all get curious sometime don't we? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I once used a pistolscript...
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Slith+Jul 8 2005, 10:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Slith @ Jul 8 2005, 10:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Crotalus+Jul 8 2005, 10:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crotalus @ Jul 8 2005, 10:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Jeez chill out, I don't really cheat, I tried it once,
    something called BuZZ Hook or something, I mean
    we all get curious sometime don't we? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I once used a pistolscript... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i once jumped as a skulk, but i immediately felt like i was exploiting the engine
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