What's A Good Usb Joystick?

xioutlawixxioutlawix Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7118Members, Constellation
Previously I'd been using my m$ sidewinder 2 joystick back in the bf1942/vietnam days to play, and I've only recently picked up bf2, but the computer I've since built has no game ports, so as a sign of the times, it's come to me to find a good usb joystick.

Couple people have recommended the saitek evo, stating that it's a departure from most of their products in terms of sturdiness and performance. Any other recommendations?

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  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    That would have been my recomendation...its really comfortable! and enough buttons to make a swiss army knife blush.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I wholeheartedly recommend the <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=12,CONTENTID=6954' target='_blank'>Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Twist Handle Joystick</a>
    Long, stupid name, but an awesome joystick.

    I picked one up for $30 at the local Target.


    Whatever you get, be sure to get one that twists left/right. It is extremely useful for subtle helicopter and jet maneuvering.
  • TheSaviorTheSavior Join Date: 2003-10-14 Member: 21688Members
    Very sleek looking joystick, doom. I like it.

    I use a standard Microsoft Sidewinder Pro (not force feedback)... Was 80 bucks the 6 some years ago I bought it.
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    My sidewinder 2 is USB.... And its great....
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jun 27 2005, 07:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jun 27 2005, 07:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [...]
    Whatever you get, be sure to get one that twists left/right. It is extremely useful for subtle helicopter and jet maneuvering. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed, unless you have pedals to do it instead, the twist function should be just as "required" in your mind as a throttle & hat switch. Pick anything from Microsoft, Saitek, or Thrustmaster based on whether you need other special features, like easy portability, a more weighted base, right- & left-handed use, etc.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I'm left handed, yet I absolutely cannot understand how anyone can use a mouse/joystick left handed. Its just so... wierd...
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    The Saitek Evo can be adjusted for left handed people, or so i think it said somewhere on the box.

    Pic below: The big silver thing can be unscrewed to allow you to move the rest around, and the similar screws on top can adjust the top of the joysticks angle.
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  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    That joystick looks like it wants to mate with a female robot. Just saying...
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Yeah, that's got way more buttons than you need for BF2. It's a pricey one too I think.


    You only really need:
    1) x-axis (roll)
    2) y-axis (pitch)
    3) throttle (z-axis)
    4) rotate turning left/right (some other axis)
    5) Primary fire
    6) secondary fire
    7) Primary weapon select
    8) Secondary weapon select
    9) HAT switch
    10) Afterburner button
    11) Flares button
    12) Maybe a button for eject (aka. just bind use to a button)

    Okay maybe that was quite a bit after all.. But you get the idea. :P
  • ZaziZazi Join Date: 2002-05-26 Member: 672Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I recommend the Saitek x45 or the x52. Links <a href='http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x45.htm' target='_blank'>here</a> and <a href='http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x52.htm' target='_blank'>here</a>, respectively. They're not THAT expensive, either.

    Anyway, they're the best combo I have EVER used and every sort of functionality you would ever need is there. If you're into Falcon 4.0 or something that is as intensive as that, definately get one of these two combos (along with some pedals).

    But yeah... just my two cents.
  • TwistedXTwistedX Join Date: 2004-10-01 Member: 32042Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jun 27 2005, 07:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jun 27 2005, 07:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wholeheartedly recommend the <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=12,CONTENTID=6954' target='_blank'>Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Twist Handle Joystick</a>
    Long, stupid name, but an awesome joystick.

    I picked one up for $30 at the local Target. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I second that, its what i use <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    so what exactly IS a hat switch? it's a switch you can push 4 ways, and bind it to 4 different commands? or is there something in particular you should use it for?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    push 8 ways generaly (I think)

    and it is often ussed for looking around.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-DiscoZombie+Jun 28 2005, 10:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Jun 28 2005, 10:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> so what exactly IS a hat switch? it's a switch you can push 4 ways, and bind it to 4 different commands? or is there something in particular you should use it for? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bingo.

    Most HAT's are 8-way, but BF2 only recognizes 4way I think. Either way its not too useful since BF2 doesn't have traditional HAT support anyway.

    In most flight sims, what the HAT switch does is basically it moves your head. You push it up, your view looks up. You push it left, you look left. It's a way to see what's around you w/o having to maneuver around.

    Of course BF2 doesn't support this, so I just use mine to quickly switch between the F9-F12 views. Quite handy when you wanna see where the bombs you just dropped ended up landing.
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-TheSavior+Jun 27 2005, 09:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheSavior @ Jun 27 2005, 09:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Very sleek looking joystick, doom. I like it.

    I use a standard Microsoft Sidewinder Pro (not force feedback)... Was 80 bucks the 6 some years ago I bought it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can say exactly the same thing for myself. Creepy eh?

    If I was going to upgrade right now I'd go for either the <a href='http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x52.htm' target='_blank'>x52</a> or the <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=12,CONTENTID=6954' target='_blank'>Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Twist Handle Joystick</a>, as they are, in my professional opinion, the best two available currently. The most important traits to looks for are: accuracy, durbaility, and conformity (which is how well it fits your body's specific anatomy, the buttons aren't to big or too small, the button are all easily accessible without problems of accicdentially hitting the wrong one, etc.) Lots of buttons is alway nice, as is force feedback, but pay attention to those three.

    Yeah, I don't know why BF only recognizes 4-way hats. There are hardly any joysticks that if they have a hatswitch isn't an 8-way.


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    And whilst on the topic of HIDs... I have finally broken the arrows keys on my keyboard (because I used them to maneuver, they just simply have worn out for more use than they were designed for) So I'm looking an alternative to a keyboard for my left hand. This <a href='http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Section_Id=2071&pcount=&Product_Id=157024' target='_blank'>Nostromo Speedpad n52</a> made by Belkin caught my eye as a potential product to buy. Can any of you recommend it? Or better of yet, do any of you have one that you currently use and can vouche for it's compatibility with Half-Life and the like?
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-the x5+Jun 28 2005, 06:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the x5 @ Jun 28 2005, 06:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And whilst on the topic of HIDs... I have finally broken the arrows keys on my keyboard (because I used them to maneuver, they just simply have worn out for more use than they were designed for) So I'm looking an alternative to a keyboard for my left hand. This <a href='http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Section_Id=2071&pcount=&Product_Id=157024' target='_blank'>Nostromo Speedpad n52</a> made by Belkin caught my eye as a potential product to buy.  Can any of you recommend it? Or better of yet, do any of you have one that you currently use and can vouche for it's compatibility with Half-Life and the like? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I own an n52 and it is the best thing to happen to my game - no matter what game - since the invention of the mouse. Yeah, it's that good. ^^

    Plus you can pick one up for ~30$ at many electronics stores, and best buy has them for 35.
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    ugh stay away from the X52..


    and the x45..

    bad bad joysticks. they didnt support bf1942, and so there was alot of 3rd party faffing around wtih .con files to get it to work.. and even then it worked in a limited way..

    great idea. **** up by crappy support.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    I currently use a Sidewinder 2 FF, but I'm not too happy about it. Sure, it's a great joystick, but there's something... missing.

    The throttle is too small, and it just doesn't feel right. The left hand doesn't really have a nice place, and even if the right hand does have everything needed, the left hand seems it wasn't really thought of and they just added 4 buttons and a thumb throttle as an afterthought.

    One of those HOTAS (Hands on Throttle and Stick) ones look snazzy, but they cost quite a bit.
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    I don't understand how you grip this joystick.... there's a huge chunk of plastic where your hand wraps round no?
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-enf0rcer+Jun 29 2005, 06:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (enf0rcer @ Jun 29 2005, 06:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't understand how you grip this joystick.... there's a huge chunk of plastic where your hand wraps round no? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think that folds down when in use - you just flip it up to adjust the joystick.
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    Quick demo image

    <img src='http://img115.echo.cx/img115/1530/demo2to.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    Also note it can be moved up or down the stick, reversed so the stick can be used in the left hand or even removed entirely.

    Also, note hows its lit up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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