X_StickmanNot good enough for a custom title.Join Date: 2003-04-15Member: 15533Members, Constellation
I used the physics in HL2 a lot without the grav gun, picking up barrels for cover mainly. Amazingly useful and effective, especially when approaching a set up gun. I assume that once AOE3 comes out, people will find other ways to use the physics system. I can'tthink of any at the moment, but I never thought of chucking bricks off heights onto Combine either, before I started playing HL2.
And KFS is right. Not many sequels completely overhaul the game. Homeworld 2 was essentially Homeworld with an easier interface (the camera and build menus were my main problem with Homeworld) and better graphics. HL2 is HL but bigger with better graphics. Homeworld 2 and Half Life 2 are great games.
If AOE3 turns out to be AOE2 with better graphics, who loses? No one, that's who. And you can't blame the website for promoting Graphics as a major selling point, because it's the buyers who are taken in by such points. You've got to remember that, to most of the people who will end up buying a game, "Graphics" and "Awesome weapons" are <b>major</b> attractions. The companies just market to the largest audience is all.
<!--QuoteBegin-X Stickman+Jun 2 2005, 10:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X Stickman @ Jun 2 2005, 10:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You've got to remember that, to most of the people who will end up buying a game, "Graphics" and "Awesome weapons" are <b>major</b> attractions. The companies just market to the largest audience is all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yep. Innovation is good and all, but for every game that "defines a new generation", there is an innovative game that absolutely sucks. AOE2 was a brilliant game, as was AOE3. I can't see how this game will fail if they stick to their winning forumla, and only add a few major changes.
As for the graphics, they are bloody superb. They are, without a doubt, the main selling point for me. Having superb, innovative gameplay is all well and good. However, i want shadows, physics, beautiful landscapes and highly detailed charactors more than i want an innovative yet graphically boring game.
With any luck, AOE3 will be a combination of them both.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+Jun 2 2005, 12:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Jun 2 2005, 12:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nil IQ+Jun 2 2005, 03:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil IQ @ Jun 2 2005, 03:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> -Herzog Zwei -Dune 2 -Warcraft -Warcraft 2/Command and Conquer -AoE -Total Annihilation -Starcraft <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> There we go, I fixed it for you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> How can anyone forget about Total Annihilation?? And Red Alert should be in there somewhere too.
Another RTS that'll play like every other RTS out there. Get res fast. Build up 10,000 units. Crush enemy easily with mixture. Repeat until you win. It's frightening when it takes you 5 mins to build advanced stuff,and ur RA2 friend builds about 700 good units in that time....
<!--QuoteBegin-Sub zer0+Jun 2 2005, 10:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sub zer0 @ Jun 2 2005, 10:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i found age of empire kinda boring then came all the crap games using its engine
still thats me..
Yes ta and red alert 2 in the works <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Care to mention a crap game that used the AoE engine? Because the only crap I'm aware of is the stuff you claim in your posts without having any evidence.
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I assume that once AOE3 comes out, people will find other ways to use the physics system. I can'tthink of any at the moment, but I never thought of chucking bricks off heights onto Combine either, before I started playing HL2.
And KFS is right. Not many sequels completely overhaul the game. Homeworld 2 was essentially Homeworld with an easier interface (the camera and build menus were my main problem with Homeworld) and better graphics. HL2 is HL but bigger with better graphics. Homeworld 2 and Half Life 2 are great games.
If AOE3 turns out to be AOE2 with better graphics, who loses? No one, that's who. And you can't blame the website for promoting Graphics as a major selling point, because it's the buyers who are taken in by such points. You've got to remember that, to most of the people who will end up buying a game, "Graphics" and "Awesome weapons" are <b>major</b> attractions. The companies just market to the largest audience is all.
Yep. Innovation is good and all, but for every game that "defines a new generation", there is an innovative game that absolutely sucks. AOE2 was a brilliant game, as was AOE3. I can't see how this game will fail if they stick to their winning forumla, and only add a few major changes.
As for the graphics, they are bloody superb. They are, without a doubt, the main selling point for me. Having superb, innovative gameplay is all well and good. However, i want shadows, physics, beautiful landscapes and highly detailed charactors more than i want an innovative yet graphically boring game.
With any luck, AOE3 will be a combination of them both.
-Dune 2
-Warcraft
-Warcraft 2/Command and Conquer
-AoE
-Total Annihilation
-Starcraft
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There we go, I fixed it for you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
How can anyone forget about Total Annihilation??
And Red Alert should be in there somewhere too.
Get res fast.
Build up 10,000 units.
Crush enemy easily with mixture.
Repeat until you win.
It's frightening when it takes you 5 mins to build advanced stuff,and ur RA2 friend builds about 700 good units in that time....
still thats me..
Yes ta and red alert 2 in the works
still thats me..
Yes ta and red alert 2 in the works <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Care to mention a crap game that used the AoE engine? Because the only crap I'm aware of is the stuff you claim in your posts without having any evidence.
Star wars galactic battlegrounds
Not to mention all the hundreds of other cheap knock offs thats are nearly the same