A New Lmg Design

Chubi_Chan · May 2005

<div class="IPBDescription">the calico SMG now the LMG</div> Well,even though the calico failed in real life,I think it deserves a nice resurection in NS <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

<a href='http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg57-e.htm' target='_blank'>Calico SMG</a>

Lt_Gravity · May 2005

its one of the most ugly weapons on this planet in my eyes.
THATS why it failed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />
the model itself would be pretty easy though.

nogoodnickname · May 2005

ive always wanted calico

Chubi_Chan · May 2005

hey,it wasn't ment for looks,it was ment to kill...skulks...

Owen1 · May 2005

disgusting shape... but it is reliable at least... just bulk around it slightly... give it some love and attention

Ratonetwothreetwoone · May 2005

yeah.. looks like ****.. but its the thought that counts right?

Zavaro · May 2005

It hurts my eyes.

Chrono · May 2005

delarosa has been asking for this for so long

Kaine · May 2005

the Calico has to be one of the top 10 most ugly/impractical guns to ever make production.

no sale.

NEX9 · May 2005

tho hte clip design is rather intelgent, maybe ya can pinch it, give sid a wif of it and see what the man comes up with

nogoodnickname · May 2005

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douchebagatron · May 2005

one of these was made as a welder.

Delarosa · May 2005

some people appreciate innovation, and the rest think it's ugly... here's some more detailed shots...
<img src='http://nas2.gbhinc.com/GB/031898000/31898594/pix3911855408.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://nas2.gbhinc.com/GB/031898000/31898594/pix3911855345.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://nas2.gbhinc.com/GB/031898000/31898594/pix3911855564.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://nas2.gbhinc.com/GB/031898000/31898594/pix3911855486.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Lt_Gravity · May 2005

its looks rather senseless without the buttstock. the weapon had been designed to be a base for tons of different versions, longer barrels, bigger mag, buttstock etc.
nevertheless: UGLY AS HELL! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Terran_marine · May 2005

Lol looks like a lasergun from starwars <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' />

Sid · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEX9 @ May 14 2005, 05:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> tho hte clip design is rather intelgent, maybe ya can pinch it, give sid a wif of it and see what the man comes up with  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Heh, thanks.

Well, looking over it... I think it's a rather ingenious design for a magazine.. looks a bit clumsy, though.

Doesn't the Bizon use something like this?

Chubi_Chan · May 2005

yes,but the bizon used the smaller 9mm makarov round,which was oddly slighly bigger too.So it actually had an easier job of doing it #1,and #2 it fed from the bottom if I'm not mistaken.

Ok,so it doesn't look pretty.I've seen plently of non-pretty guns make it into NS.So how about we pretty it up.Someone do a render of it in 3d,and we all say how we should edit it to make it look better.At the most it's simply a waste of time/space,noone really cares if it drops into nothingness if it was an ugly model.

and it's better then a <a href='http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh20-e.htm' target='_blank'>Shotgun Uzi</a>

Drfuzzy · May 2005

Its a pretty decent weapon, the mag is designed well, and the ejection port is placed well so that left or right handed users can both use the weapon without problems, much like the p90. Plus, it was a awesome weapon in code veronica <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Mr_Headcrab · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Terran marine @ May 16 2005, 06:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Lol looks like a lasergun from starwars <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Actually, they used slightly redressed Calicos in Spaceballs

and i utterly love tihs gun

sheena_yanai · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drfuzzy @ May 17 2005, 05:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> and the ejection port is placed well </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
one reason the gun have not sold that good was that some peoples hurt themself on the ejection port while firing, because they were to stupid to hold the gun right...
oh..and then was this (assault) automatic weapon ban...wich limited the magazine capacity for civilian automatic weapons to 10 rounds, the calico doesnt sold that well for the military and police..so the civilian market was the only one left... this stopped the calico production at all..

i would say if this one is getting produced again it would sell way better now..

and i say the helical magazine concept is maybe the most ingenious invention in magazine technology ever...the most compact high capacity magazine solution at the moment..the biggest helical mag for the calico isnt longer than a p90 50 round double stacked box magazine ...and holds 100 rounds . they look very complex, but the magazines are very durable and reliable .you can drop the magazines and kick them around if you like but I wouldnt since they cost $125 apiece.

oh..and that star wars thing... next to spaceball it was used in tons of rather bad Sci Fi B-Movies

Scythe · May 2005

The mag looks like only one third of its volume is filled with ammo, the rest seems to be air.

Not very efficient.

--Scythe--

sheena_yanai · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scythe @ May 18 2005, 08:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The mag looks like only one third of its volume is filled with ammo, the rest seems to be air.

Not very efficient.

--Scythe-- </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
what to hell are you talking about.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /> the cut away shows a half (half is a very aproximate value..) filled magazine.. they are complete full... and read next time..long as a p90 magazine with 50 rounds, but holds 100... thats not efficient?? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /> oh..and guess how much space a regular magazine spring takes in a full loaded box magazine... thats not "efficient" either

NEX9 · May 2005

go easy sheena, scythe only like 15 isnt he?

but you are right, thats why i brought it up as a very effective means fo getting rounds to the gun

Chubi_Chan · May 2005

yes,but then again the more complicated the magizine is,the more prone it is to jamming.I myself have never had the joy of fireing a calico myself...and I know not if It jams often.Reguardlessly,It has to be one of the only SMG's that comes in .22 LR from the factory.

Reguardlessly,anyone planning on modeling this anytime soon?

Mr_Headcrab · May 2005

before one of my crashes, i had one finsihed, but now it's back to the drawing board, but it will be done

TommyVercetti · May 2005

God that thing is hideous.

But this can be forgiven; the G11 is a black box but it's also (in my opinion) the best assault rifle ever made.

SpaceJesus · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sid @ May 16 2005, 07:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Doesn't the Bizon use something like this?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Yes, the Bizon-2 uses a similar mag design where the magazine is placed underneath the barrel, horizontally - where it doubles as the foregrip of the weapon. It holds 66 rounds if I'm not mistaken ?

Sky · May 2005

Such a laser pistol. I mean, if someone pointed this thing at me, I'd think it was a toy Star Wars gun.

Mr_Headcrab · May 2005

The design is a little strange by some people's standards, but so is the P90. Both guns have a distinctive look, simmilar mag placement, and both look great (in my opinion, of course) Also, remember that what looks wierd to you now may be the next step forward, people thought the polymer construction of the M16 was toyish (having Mattel produce a few didnt help either) but it eventually went on to become all too common.

And for some eyecandy, a cut away pic of the calico

Chubi_Chan · May 2005

btw...<a href='http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg08-e.htm' target='_blank'>Bizon info for those who are too lazy to look it up...</a>

rabbity · May 2005

its a closed bolt smg too, i'd say its a pretty accurate weapon

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