I "liked" Ns

fooockthisfooockthis Join Date: 2005-04-28 Member: 50341Members
edited April 2005 in NS General Discussion
Until this complete ****tart of a 3.0.3 patch.

In the patch 3.0.2 rines already had some neat little tweaks, now with 3.0.3, its the last fecking drop.

In co as an alien you can forget winning 1v1 if the rine is good, since you now need 3 bites or 2 + para to kill him at lvl 1 armor!!!

Jp was already overpowered now with the armor upgrade nearly impossible to kill.

Siege was already overpowered since its hardly costs any res to make one, and if rines stick together (especially now with that flipping armor upgrade) aliens can forget it to break their line!

I played around 10 games in different server both co and NS, and not one of them the aliens won.

Its a big flipping shame this happend since NS imho WAS a good game, now its a unbalanced piece of crap.

Good day. Im off.

Comments

  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    edited April 2005
    3.03??

    oh server side..
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    Intresting. Aliens get a 75%+ win rate before the patch, and we give the marines the capability to survive one more bite, and now they are "totally overpowered".


    Pardon me if I question the logical raffications of your statements.
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    sigh, have to get used to spit before I bite them then eh.
  • TheJimTheJim Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34080Members, Constellation
    I love the new version harder marine make a more satisfying kill <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Bout time my marine food became more challanging <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Aliens used to win and be careless and still win but now if they are careless they lose so i think it encourages aliens to be more carefull <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Hey, maby its time to learn to play marines?

    Or better yet, maby its time to learn to play alien, so that extra bite you need while rines still take 10 LMG rounds to kill you isn't that hard to make.

    Bhop much?
  • GameOverGameOver Germany Join Date: 2003-10-15 Member: 21700Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Lofung+Apr 27 2005, 11:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lofung @ Apr 27 2005, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> whua!
    so 3 bites now? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or two bites and a parasite <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Parasite your enemy and he'll lose his +5 Armor. The only problem is, that you may not miss him.
  • TheJimTheJim Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34080Members, Constellation
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Apr 28 2005, 10:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Apr 28 2005, 10:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey, maby its time to learn to play marines?

    Or better yet, maby its time to learn to play alien, so that extra bite you need while rines still take 10 LMG rounds to kill you isn't that hard to make.

    Bhop much? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If thats aimed at the thread starter then i couldn't agree with you more.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    Warning: Trolling detected.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23688
    its not a big change at all... 1 parsite is all it needs, and it only has an affect on lvl 0 armour rines after that nothing changes <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    and jim, its not really hard to kill rines when you go carpace/regen/redemption/celerety/adren/3rd hive attacking onos <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • smudgehsmudgeh Join Date: 2004-01-04 Member: 25048Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-fooockthis+Apr 28 2005, 04:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (fooockthis @ Apr 28 2005, 04:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Until this complete ****tart of a 3.0.3 patch.

    In the patch 3.0.2 rines already had some neat little tweaks, now with 3.0.3, its the last fecking drop.

    In co as an alien you can forget winning 1v1 if the rine is good, since you now need 3 bites or 2 + para to kill him at lvl 1 armor!!!

    Jp was already overpowered now with the armor upgrade nearly impossible to kill.

    Siege was already overpowered since its hardly costs any res to make one, and if rines stick together (especially now with that flipping armor upgrade) aliens can forget it to break their line!

    I played around 10 games in different server both co and NS, and not one of them the aliens won.

    Its a big flipping shame this happend since NS imho WAS a good game, now its a unbalanced piece of crap.

    Good day. Im off. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can't speak for co_ as personally I'm not a fan of it, but from an ns_ point of view I would completely disagree. I've seen both aliens and marines win, it just means that it's a lot harder for a lone skulk to go around and take out a pair of marines.

    In a way this *should* help improve alien teamwork, by not having Skulks rambo around on their own.

    The sieges issue I don't think really applies as I haven't seen a hive properly sieged in NS for a long time and when i command I prefer to SG rush a hive than siege as it's quicker and usually far more effective.

    As people have said, parasite is your friend, and so is an early Lerk <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • PRTePRTe Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21919Members
    learn to cope with it, one little parasite does the trick.

    from what i've seen so far ns maps seem more balanced. i don't see how the +5 armor overpowers jp <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    in co you need armor 2 and the new change dosen't actually affect armor 2. in ns i don't think jps usually come before armor 1 so no effect, and either way jps don't usually weld one another when rushing a hive from my experience.
    the new patch also seems to encourage parasiting a lot. glad finally people get to know the use of parasiting, even if it is only to get a parasite kill <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    maybe there is a problem with your pubby servers
  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    Ok, please, please, please give the patch at least a couple of weeks before talking about how completely unbalanced it makes NS...

    People were talking about how so much of the alien attack needed nerfing the week after 3.0f came out. As time went on, people realized it wasn't the be-all end all and so we've been doing only minor tweaks since there.

    I suspect the same thing will happen here...
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