Tsa Smg

SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
edited March 2005 in Concepts and Requests
<div class="IPBDescription">Simple Design, quick doodle</div> I know it kind of lacks detail..

But, anyways - I present to you.... the TSA SMG.

As with all my concepts - PLEASE provide feedback and feel free to edit it to your liking - just as long as you post it here for all to see. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

P.S. The ejection port moves forward.
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Fixed it up a bit. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    small sightlines... I guess it's for more of a CQB type situation than a warzone. Looks good
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Owen!+Mar 20 2005, 06:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Owen! @ Mar 20 2005, 06:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> small sightlines... I guess it's for more of a CQB type situation than a warzone. Looks good <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I was thinking that... maybe I should expand the sights.

    But anyways, this would be great for the closterphobic corriders of NS, right? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Okay. I added a curved magazine and a longer iron sight. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    i really preferred the straight magazine.

    also be interested to see the bolt mechanism... seing as there's like 5mm room for it behind the ejection port XD
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Good point. XD

    I'll fix this up after school.

    (I did kinda think that the curved mag looked a bit... cheesy)
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Alright.. I readded the straight mag, and added a bit more detail. (Rivets).

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  • slayerkl2slayerkl2 RUFCKINGKETAMINE?????? Join Date: 2004-10-17 Member: 32324Members
    i love your concepts! BUT all of them are too back heavy. Just think about how a gun would feel before makeing the concept. All though they look cool, with the clip in the back whenever you shoot the runs recoil will be pulled back more because the weight of the clip (very small amount but still uncunfortible (sp)) clip slook cool in the back. But i would only use it as a resavour.
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-slayerkl2+Mar 21 2005, 06:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (slayerkl2 @ Mar 21 2005, 06:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i love your concepts! BUT all of them are too back heavy. Just think about how a gun would feel before makeing the concept. All though they look cool, with the clip in the back whenever you shoot the runs recoil will be pulled back more because the weight of the clip (very small amount but still uncunfortible (sp)) clip slook cool in the back. But i would only use it as a resavour. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol, thanks.. I'll see what I can do about that. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    Hmm perhaps make the grip more p90 style or the front grip closer to the trigger <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Looks cool, if modeled right it would feel awesome ingame.
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  • Phsyc0Phsyc0 Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46201Members
    how many shots is the clip, i cant seem to guys where it ends.? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Phsyc0Phsyc0 Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46201Members
    im gunna try to do a little editing on the gun, what program did you use to make it?
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Psyc0: I has 50 rounds, just like the default TSA LMG

    I used PSP8.0 to draw my concepts.

    Fuzzy: Thanks for the idea... I'll get right on that. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Hows this? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    Hmm, try making it bigger so it connects with the bottom of the grip <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • mirrodinmirrodin Join Date: 2004-06-29 Member: 29621Members
    Hmm. it does seem back heavy. The diagram/thingee is fantastic however.
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Alright, how is this?

    I moved the bolt to the top, in between the iron sights (Don't wory, there is a groove in the bolt to not obscure the sights).

    I made the vertical foregrip bigger, and then connected it to a horizontal foregrip to beef the front of the gun up a bit.

    How is it? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    now yer talkin. lookin much better now.
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited March 2005
    oohh.. the last one... really nice. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    but needs some improvement.
    the internals seem to be very similar to the TKB022 assault rifle,just the ejection port would not work like that.
    the bolt carrier on yours have to travel from the back to the front , but i know help <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    i would use a combination of the TKB ejection system and the F2000.
    the TKB ejected similar to the P90 downwards, in this case in front of the magazine is the ejection port located.
    <img src='http://yanai.blackmage.org/concepts/concept%20studys/_TKB-022PM(600).jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    ok..the barell on your concept seems to be relative high, wich could come handy with the ejection system. we just turn around the f2000 ejection sytem , and integrate it within the TKB one.below the barell on your concept could be the ejection tube.

    <img src='http://yanai.blackmage.org/concepts/concept%20studys/f2000-f1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    <img src='http://yanai.blackmage.org/concepts/concept%20studys/f2000-f2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    <img src='http://yanai.blackmage.org/concepts/concept%20studys/f2000-f3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    i think a very nice solution for that problem
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  • Lt.RealnessLt.Realness Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
    I really like this concept. but what happened to the tactical handgrip at the front of the gun you had first? I liked the idea. It looks a little bit like the morita version for officers in SST =)
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  • Phsyc0Phsyc0 Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46201Members
    edited March 2005
    what program did you use, i have no idea what that psp thingy is, is it in WINDOWS or sumthin?
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <a href='http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel3/Products/Display&pfid=1047024307383&pid=1047023911984' target='_blank'>corel paint shop pro </a>

    i think they got a 30 day test version of psp .
    otherwise you can buy it for $130 USD
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    I'll make two versions next:

    One with the tactical grip like last time, and the one with the p90-like grip.

    I'll also fix up the ejection port problem, too. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seeya soon!
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    P90 Version.

    (Changed a lot)
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Tactical Foregrip version. (Same changes as P90 but with a Tac forgrip)

    P.S. And yes, I do know that the hot, flying shells with eject right over your hand... XP

    Any suggestions on how to fix that? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited March 2005
    like that... f2000 system..ejection port is right next to the barell.
    the cases getting ejected forward, through that ejection tubenext to the barrell
    <img src='http://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/F2000-te/f2000-1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    <img src='http://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/F2000-te/f2000-3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    at your weapon it would not e really visible from the side..because the ejection port is just a additional hole below the barrell
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Thanks sheena.. I'll see what I can do.
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  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    edited March 2005
    Hows this? It's only a quick fix.. and if you want to see the tac-grip updated like this one, just ask. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I also lowered the barrel a bit, too.

    EDIT: Fixed up the foregrip a bit, too. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • nogoodnicknamenogoodnickname Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46172Members
    cool
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  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    omg the F2000 is real... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> me wants!
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