Aimbotter And Wallhacker

MrGunnerMrGunner Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11757Posts: 473 Advanced user
edited March 2005 in Recorded Demos
I hope this demo helps you out.
A lot of people get accused of aimbotting and wallhacking on NS servers so I'm posting a demo I made tonight to show you a blatant aimbotter and wallhacker so you can see the obvious traits of both. You will notice the snap aiming from one skulk to another without missing a bullet. You will notice how he scans walls before going into any room. You will notice him tracing skulks through boxes with his bullets.

http://www3.telus.net/public/danorama/oneill.zip

I also included his steamid in a screenshot if you run a server and want to ban him after reviewing the demo.

Personally I think it would be nice to have a seperate forum here to post this kind of stuff. I mean if you plan on integrating the community into the website, these people should be outed as cheaters, as they are detrimental to the game, they ruin games, and they make new players not want to play. Kind of like how pedophiles having to tell their neighbours that they are sex offenders. An icon like the consti icons would be nice for people that have been proven to be cheaters.

Oh yeah and this is my webspace so post if the demo is unavailable.
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  • MrGunnerMrGunner Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11757Posts: 473 Advanced user
    I also remember Esuna's topic but it's old and none of the pictures work and I think an actual demo of a hacker ingame is much better.
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  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Members Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Posts: 1,276
    Its only obvious if you quartertime it, otherwise it looks like he's playing Counter-Strike and isn't very bright. If you slowmo it though you can see the instant firing at the target, and the view following later tounge.gif

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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Posts: 5,583 Advanced user
    QUOTE (MrGunner @ Mar 20 2005, 12:51 AM)
    I also remember Esuna's topic but it's old and none of the pictures work and I think an actual demo of a hacker ingame is much better.

    esunas post was a brilliant look into the traits of hackers, I'm going to direct him over here, as it would be a faboulous resource marine.gif
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Posts: 5,578 Fully active user
    QUOTE (MrGunner @ Mar 20 2005, 08:51 AM)
    I also remember Esuna's topic but it's old and none of the pictures work and I think an actual demo of a hacker ingame is much better.

    Yeah, i've had a lot of webhosting problems and such which ended with me (temporarily) hosting the videos on my ISP host, after moving house, the cancellation of my DSL (and subsequent re-enabling), i don't have a whole lot left online, and i don't have copies of those videos on my HDD either, so, unfortunately, that kinda died really. I may at some point make a new batch, but for now, they're dead.
  • surprisesurprise Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12382Posts: 674
    hm, i think i still got most of the movies...
    i justed watched, and i still got:
    aimbot.avi
    esp.avi
    lambertwallhack.avi
    speedhack1.avi
    wallhack2.avi
    wfwwfb.avi

    are they complete?!?
    i think that should be all
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  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Posts: 5,578 Fully active user
    QUOTE (surprise @ Mar 26 2005, 04:22 PM)
    hm, i think i still got most of the movies...
    i justed watched, and i still got:
    aimbot.avi
    esp.avi
    lambertwallhack.avi
    speedhack1.avi
    wallhack2.avi
    wfwwfb.avi

    are they complete?!?
    i think that should be all

    I think that is all of them, yeah. If you can email them to esunub [at] gmail.com then i can get them hosted again. biggrin-fix.gif
  • SwiftSwift Lost Keys Members, Constellation Join Date: 2005-02-19 Member: 41683Posts: 510
    Heres another.

    # 7 "NSPlayer" 1652 STEAM_0:0:4160170 61 16:01 40

    Demo

    See demo, blantant aimbot hacking and whitewalls.
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  • zippyzippy Forum Police. Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11956Posts: 518
    edited April 2005
    prob is there is very well tweaked aimboters so that you don't just lock on, and jump.

    Anyone got any demo proofing sites where you submit demos for them to say ya or na?

    Since co_ though hackers on servers are getting worse, only attracts the cs market and it's bringing down the game.

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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Posts: 1,669 Advanced user
    QUOTE (Swift @ Apr 2 2005, 10:24 PM)
    Heres another.

    # 7 "NSPlayer" 1652 STEAM_0:0:4160170 61 16:01 40

    Demo

    See demo, blantant aimbot hacking and whitewalls.

    How can you have a demo of whitewalls?
    :S
    image

    WTS my two spare NS2 black-armour steam keys
  • Al_KaholicAl_Kaholic Members, Constellation Join Date: 2004-01-31 Member: 25821Posts: 374
    QUOTE (Swift @ Apr 2 2005, 05:24 PM)
    Heres another.

    # 7 "NSPlayer" 1652 STEAM_0:0:4160170 61 16:01 40

    Demo

    See demo, blantant aimbot hacking and whitewalls.

    Trying to play the demo, the console reported I was lacking "addons/EntMod/models/v_phaser.mdl" and will not run. Any server/place I can download these customs from?
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  • SwiftSwift Lost Keys Members, Constellation Join Date: 2005-02-19 Member: 41683Posts: 510
    edited April 2005
    Blue: It's obvious; when he flies into the vent with the egg, before he even gets into the vent, he fires at it.

    Al: I am not every sure. the server I when to (SOM) had it I guess... No one was using it though.

    Google Entmod and you should also be able to get it.

    Edit: wait, blue, accusing me of hacking? well, I wan't to make this completely clear: i r l33tz0rzx hax rofl lol ftw !111oneeleven.
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Members Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Posts: 7,019
    edited April 2005
    QUOTE (zippy @ Apr 2 2005, 05:43 PM)
    prob is there is very well tweaked aimboters so that you don't just lock on, and jump.

    Anyone got any demo proofing sites where you submit demos for them to say ya or na?

    Since co_ though hackers on servers are getting worse, only attracts the cs market and it's bringing down the game.

    That gets iffy, the easiest way is to look at play style. Good players tend to be twitchy and snap to the target as soon as it comes into view so they can put as much lead into it in the shortest time possible. Poor players who hack simply don't have this skill. You knowtice they play a fairly slow drifty game, but as soon as they touch a target and start firing they can't seem to miss and trail the thing perfectly. Get a nice long demo, check it against s4 = pige0n, and see if they can play alien worth crap. If you've got enough spec time it should be easy to determine weather a player is hacking or not.

    Cal delta level players are much harder to pick out if they are aimbotting, since the twitches are natural, and they do them properly. Watch for ESPesk trailing through walls, and look to see if you see any variation in a lock whatsoever once they get it. No matter how good a player is they will not have a perfect lock, and variations in thier lock will be fairly different every time. If you see an incredibly predictable pattern in overshoot, or perfect locks you know you probably have an aimbot.
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  • ZammaZamma Members, Constellation Join Date: 2004-05-04 Member: 28458Posts: 256
    Then again im just a rate hacker to zippy lololol


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  • DarkFrostDarkFrost Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15154Posts: 1,417
    QUOTE (SaltzBad @ Mar 20 2005, 03:48 PM)
    If you slowmo it though you can see the instant firing at the target, and the view following later tounge.gif

    That happens anyway, when either the demo taker or the person spectated has less than perfect rates.

    but yea =]
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Members Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Posts: 2,511
    edited April 2005
    Here's a very short demo of a hacker on co_pulse, I think.
    Anyways, first, it shows him walking back to MS to pistol as skulk that's chomping on the CC. Note the instant lock-on when he fires the first shot.
    Later on, he's getting ammo, and a skulk attacks him... it's not as obvious this time.
    At the end, he starts welding the CC, so I stop the demo.
    Enjoy. Try not to eat too much of that site's bandwidth though smile-fix.gif There's a limit.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Posts: 5,583 Advanced user
    edited April 2005
    any news on getting esunubs demo's re hosted?

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    gunner your link is down
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  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Members Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Posts: 1,276
    QUOTE (DarkFrost @ Apr 4 2005, 12:20 PM)
    QUOTE (SaltzBad @ Mar 20 2005, 03:48 PM)
    If you slowmo it though you can see the instant firing at the target, and the view following later tounge.gif

    That happens anyway, when either the demo taker or the person spectated has less than perfect rates.

    but yea =]

    Yeah I did some testing on it later on, and it happens practically all the time unless its a demo taken by the playing client. Regardless, the lack of normal movement pattern is easy to spot quarter time - and with such consistency, its either aimbotting or really bad luck on being demoed wink-fix.gif
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