<!--QuoteBegin-monk3y+Mar 18 2005, 03:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (monk3y @ Mar 18 2005, 03:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> sigh.. ive tried many counters.. i even had decent marines on my team.. ive tried all that you suggested.. i dropped like a bazillion obs around the map, not just anywhere, next to elec nodes, in key locations.. but its not the cloak thats the problem.. its the damn focus.. i upgraded lvl1 armor and started rushing hmgs and passing them out.. i had mot... i scan as many times as i dropped medpacks..
still its not the cloak.. its the damn focus.. one fade can kill a group of marines with hmgs.. lvl1 armor..
Fade with focus comes in swipes and blinks away... the marine is weakened and before he has a chance to be welded fade comes back and kills him.. fade keeps coming in and focus killing everyone.. BS....
i dont have a problem with cloak.. its the damn focus..
yeah dont take me serious...look im not gonna play a game that can kill me without warning.. WTH.. im suppose to enjoy playing this game.. now that ever time i play they all get focus.. its just plain stupid..its not even fun anymore..
just look at it how many people play ns now? its usualy only about 200 now.. and rapidly decreasing.. There not having fun so they go play other games <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <b>MAYBE IF YOU GOT ARMOR 2 AND WELDERS, IT MIGHT JUST WORK OUT BETTER</b>
ChurchMeatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2Join Date: 2002-12-31Member: 11646Members, Constellation
Let him get banned from all the servers if he wants. His attitude isn't OUR problem.
In any case, I think welders are too expensive. Aliens don't need to spend res to regenerate their armor at all, and they can regenerate it while blinking and fighting. I'm going to start a thread to make welders an upgrade.
LOL best strat ever <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Did any servers ban you for doing that yet monk3y? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
BreakthroughTexture Artist (ns_prometheus)Join Date: 2005-03-27Member: 46620Members, Constellation
That's why going to the Ready Room is disabled on some servers.
Technically, this isn't a real strategy, becuase it involves a Marine turning into an Alien, which isn't possible in the Natural-Selection world, but I'm not one to get into technics...
<!--QuoteBegin-Breakthrough+Mar 30 2005, 07:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Breakthrough @ Mar 30 2005, 07:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's why going to the Ready Room is disabled on some servers.
Technically, this isn't a real strategy, becuase it involves a Marine turning into an Alien, which isn't possible in the Natural-Selection world, but I'm not one to get into technics... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The basic keys of winning sc: get a2 and welders if heavy guns. NEVER GO ALONE.
I'm gonna have to make sure you're not doing this on the Gorge Hideout monkey <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm watching you monk3h. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Do this in my prescence. Please. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Heyman+Apr 14 2005, 09:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Heyman @ Apr 14 2005, 09:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this is the opposite on siege maps, drop an SC instead of DC and the pros will kill you when they get the chance <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> siege-map pr0s :DDDDD
<!--QuoteBegin-monk3y+Mar 17 2005, 03:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (monk3y @ Mar 17 2005, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hi there my felllow marines!! i know that out of the 3 chamgers, sensory is the most hated now.. sesnory allows a sneaky alien to munch on a bunch of marines and then later on at 2:00 you see a focus fade. the comm is still trying to build an obs.. AS you can see, sensory is overpowered!! stupid and with pros, its GG when the first SC chamber drops.
BUT!!! DO NOT DESPAIR!! THERE IS A AWAY TO COUNTER IT!!! First !! before the game starts! go alien and quickly go gorge and drop a DEfence chamber, don't drop MCS cuz they are better then DCS, WE dont want speedy skulks or silent ones either!!
AFter you dropped your DC quickly switch back to marines!! the aliens will be happy that someone dropped a chamber, but now !! you won't have to worry about cloaked aliens~!!!
i found this out after playing ns 3.0.. i hated SC as a marine so i went alien and dropped DC!!
This is a underhanded and extremely sneaky trick!! but it can determine the outcome of a a game!!
the only way to counter this is if someone else goes gorge and quickly drops SC!!! questions? comments!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Switching between teams for any other reason than uneven teams is lame.
The commander cannot counter SC by himself/herself. (FEMALE COMMANDER??? OMGFTW!!!!!) You have to have marines who will stay in a GROUP. Not GROUPS! One cohesive unit. Since the aliens cannot have SC and DC without a second hive, you need to ID the chamber ASAP, and if it is sensory, push AS A GROUP to one of the other hives, farm it up, drop a PG and obs, and push AS A GROUP to the next hive, all while the comm scans ahead of you. When you lose a significant number of marines, fall back to the closest PG and wait for reinforcements. Since the aliens do not have DCs, they cannot regenerate without returning to the hive. (Well, that's how it USED to be. Bleh. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
Comms, remember: Don't scan where the marines are. Scan where they will be. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ChurchMeatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2Join Date: 2002-12-31Member: 11646Members, Constellation
While in theory this can work, in practice, by the time you finish doing this to the first hive, the second hive will be put up in about 30 seconds. This would be a good idea if all aliens started with 5 less res.
Some servers have a give res plugin, and it evens up aliens sometimes or can be your worst nightmare if that was a first-time gorge. you can even pool up for fade or onos for that
ChurchMeatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2Join Date: 2002-12-31Member: 11646Members, Constellation
With a giveres plugin, I guarantee you that competent aliens will win 99.99999% of the time. We will see Fades at 1:00, and the second hive finishes building at 3:00 or less.
i was very unhappy when i wrote tihs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
forgive me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Comments
still its not the cloak.. its the damn focus.. one fade can kill a group of marines with hmgs.. lvl1 armor..
Fade with focus comes in swipes and blinks away... the marine is weakened and before he has a chance to be welded fade comes back and kills him.. fade keeps coming in and focus killing everyone.. BS....
i dont have a problem with cloak.. its the damn focus..
yeah dont take me serious...look im not gonna play a game that can kill me without warning.. WTH.. im suppose to enjoy playing this game.. now that ever time i play they all get focus.. its just plain stupid..its not even fun anymore..
just look at it how many people play ns now? its usualy only about 200 now.. and rapidly decreasing.. There not having fun so they go play other games <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>MAYBE IF YOU GOT ARMOR 2 AND WELDERS, IT MIGHT JUST WORK OUT BETTER</b>
then just yell at your team to weld
In any case, I think welders are too expensive. Aliens don't need to spend res to regenerate their armor at all, and they can regenerate it while blinking and fighting. I'm going to start a thread to make welders an upgrade.
Did any servers ban you for doing that yet monk3y? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
kill the SC's and the Hive, stick together and watch each others back.
*duh*
and no.. i've never been banned from servers..
Scs sucks anyway.. i go Mcs are much better
i only play at Gorge's hideout
come see me play!
just lock the damn forum..christ.. you guys weren't suppose to take it that serious...
Technically, this isn't a real strategy, becuase it involves a Marine turning into an Alien, which isn't possible in the Natural-Selection world, but I'm not one to get into technics...
Technically, this isn't a real strategy, becuase it involves a Marine turning into an Alien, which isn't possible in the Natural-Selection world, but I'm not one to get into technics... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The basic keys of winning sc: get a2 and welders if heavy guns. NEVER GO ALONE.
I could not agree more.
gg freepost. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Obs at chokepoints
Do this in my prescence. Please. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Admin on Gorge's Hideout. Ftw. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
siege-map pr0s :DDDDD
BUT!!! DO NOT DESPAIR!! THERE IS A AWAY TO COUNTER IT!!!
First !! before the game starts! go alien and quickly go gorge and drop a DEfence chamber, don't drop MCS cuz they are better then DCS, WE dont want speedy skulks or silent ones either!!
AFter you dropped your DC quickly switch back to marines!! the aliens will be happy that someone dropped a chamber, but now !! you won't have to worry about cloaked aliens~!!!
i found this out after playing ns 3.0.. i hated SC as a marine so i went alien and dropped DC!!
This is a underhanded and extremely sneaky trick!! but it can determine the outcome of a a game!!
the only way to counter this is if someone else goes gorge and quickly drops SC!!! questions? comments!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Switching between teams for any other reason than uneven teams is lame.
Comms, remember: Don't scan where the marines are. Scan where they will be. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
counters to SCs are
Handnades
scan
ARmor1 marines
two hive lockdowns
heavy armored marines
and also weldesr
welders counter focus!
there you go! how to counter SC!!!
i was very unhappy when i wrote tihs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
forgive me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->