<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I bet you clam boy has anal sex so he'd be the one to fill us in on the details <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It is a miracle of moderator stupidity that you haven't been banned yet.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I bet you clam boy has anal sex so he'd be the one to fill us in on the details <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, I don't. It wouldn't be a bad thing if I did, however.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->look. you all believe in evolution , but you all suport homosexuality even tho it goes agaisnt evolution<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> We answered this in the evolution thread. Homosexuals can and do breed. If homosexuality has a genetic cause, then it might be a recessive gene, meaning that people can pass the gene down even if they aren't homosexuals.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I bet you clam boy has anal sex so he'd be the one to fill us in on the details
look. you all believe in evolution , but you all suport homosexuality even tho it goes agaisnt evolution <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Heh... "fill".
Admitedlly, it does present some problems with evolution. Then those problems go away when you realize that most homosexual behaviour was discouraged throughout a large portion of human history, and so homosexuals reproduced anyway.
Of course, according to some studies, less than 10% of the population is completely heterosexual or completely homosexual. The greatest majority of people are, to some degree, bisexual, though an even smaller percentage is completely bisexual, having no preference to either gender.
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Mar 15 2005, 02:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Mar 15 2005, 02:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I bet you clam boy has anal sex so he'd be the one to fill us in on the details <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It is a miracle of moderator stupidity that you haven't been banned yet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh, he'd love that. Then he can be the boy-martyr and make his community ever so proud that he stood up to us heathen/godless sinners ya know.
<!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Mar 15 2005, 02:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Mar 15 2005, 02:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Mar 15 2005, 02:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Mar 15 2005, 02:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I bet you clam boy has anal sex so he'd be the one to fill us in on the details <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It is a miracle of moderator stupidity that you haven't been banned yet. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh, he'd love that. Then he can be the boy-martyr and make his community ever so proud that he stood up to us heathen/godless sinners ya know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Who cares? We wouldn't have to listen to him anymore. Besides, I can't think of a forum rule he hasn't knowingly and wilfully violated.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I believe in not having sex till you get married (to the opasit gender) and then being faithfull to your spouse. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats not what I'm asking. I'm asking you about your stance on BDSM activites.
So, lets say that a married couple (man and a woman) engage in BDSM activities, only in their sex life, not as a full time Master/slave relationship. What is your opinion on that?
In case your sheltred, BDSM is a compound acronym for:
Bondage and Discipline Domination and Submission Sadism and Masochism (or, Sadomasochism)
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I believe in not having sex till you get married (to the opasit gender) and then being faithfull to your spouse. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> www.dictionary.com is your friend
Onestlee, eef yoor knowt goin to speel write whi bothere at hall ?
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have my beliefs just like you have yours. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> We assume that. We want you to know what you think of a particular activity that doesn't violate any ethical or moral rules that you've said you believe in, at least so far.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Mar 15 2005, 02:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Mar 15 2005, 02:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I believe in not having sex till you get married (to the opasit gender) and then being faithfull to your spouse. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats not what I'm asking. I'm asking you about your stance on BDSM activites.
So, lets say that a married couple (man and a woman) engage in BDSM activities, only in their sex life, not as a full time Master/slave relationship. What is your opinion on that?
In case your sheltred, BDSM is a compound acronym for:
Bondage and Discipline Domination and Submission Sadism and Masochism (or, Sadomasochism)
You know, whips, chains, et cetera, et cetera. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I dunno, I don't think I'd be much into whips and chains and such... sexual intercourse between a man and wife is a sacred thing, not some kinky freak fest... so I'd have to vote no on that one
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Mar 15 2005, 02:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Mar 15 2005, 02:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I believe in not having sex till you get married (to the opasit gender) and then being faithfull to your spouse. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats not what I'm asking. I'm asking you about your stance on BDSM activites.
So, lets say that a married couple (man and a woman) engage in BDSM activities, only in their sex life, not as a full time Master/slave relationship. What is your opinion on that?
In case your sheltred, BDSM is a compound acronym for:
Bondage and Discipline Domination and Submission Sadism and Masochism (or, Sadomasochism)
You know, whips, chains, et cetera, et cetera. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I dunno, I don't think I'd be much into whips and chains and such... sexual intercourse between a man and wife is a sacred thing, not some kinky freak fest... so I'd have to vote no on that one <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So only plain vanilla missionary sex. No oral, no anal, no other positions. Does sex have to result in children, then or do you not require that?
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I dunno, I don't think I'd be much into whips and chains and such... sexual intercourse between a man and wife is a sacred thing, not some kinky freak fest... so I'd have to vote no on that one <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So you deem it immoral? Interesting.
Anyway, I want to wonder something else: why is sex sacred?
Edit: Oh, and those of us with those interests don't <i>usually</i> like to be called freaks.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Mar 15 2005, 02:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Mar 15 2005, 02:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I dunno, I don't think I'd be much into whips and chains and such... sexual intercourse between a man and wife is a sacred thing, not some kinky freak fest... so I'd have to vote no on that one <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So you deem it immoral? Interesting.
Anyway, I want to wonder something else: why is sex sacred?
Edit: Oh, and those of us with those interests don't <i>usually</i> like to be called freaks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I can answer that, because he always says the same thing:
why is sex sacred? thats easy enough to see. the abillitie to procreate was a direct result of eating the fruit of knowledge in the Garden of edan, that knowledge is the abillitie to create life much like god creates life. children are wonderful things and being a parent is an amazing expierence, its a gift that we are able to have kids, abusing the power to create life is both distastefull and disrespectfull.
you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> children are wonderful things and being a parent is an amazing expierence, its a gift that we are able to have kids, abusing the power to create life is both distastefull and disrespectfull. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I would buy into that... except that every other species that has two genders can and does have sex. Bonobos do it for reasons beyond procreation, to strengthen social bonds. Some penguins have sex in exchange for stones they need to build nests. The world isn't that magical.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The media? Nope. I formed my opinions about sex when I was pretty young. And I formed the independtly. Unless Sesame Street has been secretly beaming me messages about how Big Bird is a ****....
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> why is sex sacred? thats easy enough to see. the abillitie to procreate was a direct result of eating the fruit of knowledge in the Garden of edan, that knowledge is the abillitie to create life much like god creates life. children are wonderful things and being a parent is an amazing expierence, its a gift that we are able to have kids, abusing the power to create life is both distastefull and disrespectfull.
you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So fun is bad, in your book? We can't do something fun when that thing can be done in a sacred way?
Then you think that sex should only be performed because of procreation, right? So, the elderly, the sterile, and people who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to marry. Condoms should be illegal.
That sounds like a pretty awesome world to live in, AvengerX.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Mar 15 2005, 02:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Mar 15 2005, 02:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> children are wonderful things and being a parent is an amazing expierence, its a gift that we are able to have kids, abusing the power to create life is both distastefull and disrespectfull. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I would buy into that... except that every other species that has two genders can and does have sex. Bonobos do it for reasons beyond procreation, to strengthen social bonds. Some penguins have sex in exchange for stones they need to build nests. The world isn't that magical. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But..But..But..penguins didn't eat the fruit of the Tree of Life!!!
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there's a diffrence between humans and animals.
some animals eat their children... should we do that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, maybe your parents should have...
Okay, that was uncalled for, but it felt good. Therefor it must be wrong, correct?
And besides, since you haven't responded to my whole baby-killing idea, maybe we should encourage people to eat their young.
<!--QuoteBegin-theclam+Mar 15 2005, 02:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ Mar 15 2005, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> why is sex sacred? thats easy enough to see. the abillitie to procreate was a direct result of eating the fruit of knowledge in the Garden of edan, that knowledge is the abillitie to create life much like god creates life. children are wonderful things and being a parent is an amazing expierence, its a gift that we are able to have kids, abusing the power to create life is both distastefull and disrespectfull.
you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So fun is bad, in your book? We can't do something fun when that thing can be done in a sacred way?
Then you think that sex should only be performed because of procreation, right? So, the elderly, the sterile, and people who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to marry. Condoms should be illegal.
That sounds like a pretty awesome world to live in, AvengerX. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Sexual intercourse is ok in the Confines of a marrige outside of a marrige, its not
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sexual intercourse is ok in the Confines of a marrige outside of a marrige, its not <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Why?
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-theclam+Mar 15 2005, 02:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ Mar 15 2005, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> why is sex sacred? thats easy enough to see. the abillitie to procreate was a direct result of eating the fruit of knowledge in the Garden of edan, that knowledge is the abillitie to create life much like god creates life. children are wonderful things and being a parent is an amazing expierence, its a gift that we are able to have kids, abusing the power to create life is both distastefull and disrespectfull.
you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So fun is bad, in your book? We can't do something fun when that thing can be done in a sacred way?
Then you think that sex should only be performed because of procreation, right? So, the elderly, the sterile, and people who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to marry. Condoms should be illegal.
That sounds like a pretty awesome world to live in, AvengerX. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Sexual intercourse is ok in the Confines of a marrige outside of a marrige, its not <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So people can have fun while they are married but not while they aren't married. People can have fun with sex if they're married, even though they aren't procreating, as long as they aren't performing acts that you deem "kinky", because sex is about procreation.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-theclam+Mar 15 2005, 02:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ Mar 15 2005, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> why is sex sacred? thats easy enough to see. the abillitie to procreate was a direct result of eating the fruit of knowledge in the Garden of edan, that knowledge is the abillitie to create life much like god creates life. children are wonderful things and being a parent is an amazing expierence, its a gift that we are able to have kids, abusing the power to create life is both distastefull and disrespectfull.
you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So fun is bad, in your book? We can't do something fun when that thing can be done in a sacred way?
Then you think that sex should only be performed because of procreation, right? So, the elderly, the sterile, and people who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to marry. Condoms should be illegal.
That sounds like a pretty awesome world to live in, AvengerX. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Sexual intercourse is ok in the Confines of a marrige outside of a marrige, its not <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But taht doesn't fit with your previous line of reasoning. Previously you stated that sex was sacred because of procreation, I assume that this is also why marriage is sacred then, wouldn't that mean that people who are sterile, or who don't want to have children, shouldn't be allowed to marry as far as you are concerned?
its 1 in the morning here and I can't organize my toughts properly... so I'm going to go to sleep, you guys can go have an orgi if ya want. and I'll see ya all around.
<!--QuoteBegin-theclam+Mar 15 2005, 02:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ Mar 15 2005, 02:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Mar 15 2005, 02:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Mar 15 2005, 02:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 14 2005, 11:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 14 2005, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> children are wonderful things and being a parent is an amazing expierence, its a gift that we are able to have kids, abusing the power to create life is both distastefull and disrespectfull. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I would buy into that... except that every other species that has two genders can and does have sex. Bonobos do it for reasons beyond procreation, to strengthen social bonds. Some penguins have sex in exchange for stones they need to build nests. The world isn't that magical. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> But..But..But..penguins didn't eat the fruit of the Tree of Life!!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, but they snacked on the biscuit of abundance!
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its 1 in the morning here and I can't organize my toughts properly... so I'm going to go to sleep, you guys can go have an orgi if ya want. and I'll see ya all around. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So? It's two in the morning here, pansy.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Mar 15 2005, 02:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Mar 15 2005, 02:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its 1 in the morning here and I can't organize my toughts properly... so I'm going to go to sleep, you guys can go have an orgi if ya want. and I'll see ya all around. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Really? I don't see a difference in your thoughts between now and 3 hours ago.
Oh well. I bid you goodnight, AvengerX, and hope you come to your senses tomorrow.
Okay, someone has to say this, so I'll bite take the bullet... again.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->sexual intercourse between a man and wife is a sacred thing, not some kinky freak fest... so I'd have to vote no on [BDSM]<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't see why it's wrong. Two consenting adults, married, in love, free to express their love to one another in such forms is perfectly natural and acceptable. What you're basically saying is that even though they're married, the cannot express their love for one another in the way they choose, but instead how "God" chooses (Note: I have yet to find the passage in the Bible where it says that a man and a woman who are married can only express their love and sexual desire for one another through one course, which isn't always pleasurable for both).
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->having Anal sex does a person harm.. but you'll let them do that<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not entirely true. If you charge into the gates without opening the doors, then yes it can do damage. Though really, anal sex is only slightly more damaging than normal sex (Note: during normal sex [between a man and a woman], microscopic tears occur on both the surface of the **** and the interior vaginal walls. The same goes for anal sex; in which the tearing is only slightly worse because the anus isn't naturally lubricated).
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->if its Homosexual Marriges today... it'll be Cyborg Marriges tomorrow.. if a man can love another man and get married why can't he love a dog and get married to it? why can't he love a trashcan and hump that in the anus and marry that to?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I very much doubt this. The US won't allow humans and "Cyborgs" to wed, for the same reason they won't allow humans and animals to be wed: One party is getting married to a party that isn't definably human, therefore it's not marriage, and won't be allowed.
In conclusion: You, AvengerX, are a fool. Plain and simple. You fail to back you claims with facts. You attempt to refute the claims of others on the simple logic that you are absolutely right, and we can't question you. And, you're a hypocryte (sp?). How are you a hypocryte? Here's how:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I believe in not having sex till you get married (to the opasit gender) and then being faithfull to your spouse. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yet, you say it's not okay to express your sexual desires for your partner in the form of your choice. Tsk tsk.
Well, that's all for me. I know I'll probably get in trouble for this, but I just wanted to point out the faults in AvengerX's statements that he so convienently ignores.
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It is a miracle of moderator stupidity that you haven't been banned yet.
Actually, I don't. It wouldn't be a bad thing if I did, however.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->look. you all believe in evolution , but you all suport homosexuality even tho it goes agaisnt evolution<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We answered this in the evolution thread. Homosexuals can and do breed. If homosexuality has a genetic cause, then it might be a recessive gene, meaning that people can pass the gene down even if they aren't homosexuals.
look. you all believe in evolution , but you all suport homosexuality even tho it goes agaisnt evolution <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Heh... "fill".
Admitedlly, it does present some problems with evolution. Then those problems go away when you realize that most homosexual behaviour was discouraged throughout a large portion of human history, and so homosexuals reproduced anyway.
Of course, according to some studies, less than 10% of the population is completely heterosexual or completely homosexual. The greatest majority of people are, to some degree, bisexual, though an even smaller percentage is completely bisexual, having no preference to either gender.
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Oh, he'd love that. Then he can be the boy-martyr and make his community ever so proud that he stood up to us heathen/godless sinners ya know.
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Oh, he'd love that. Then he can be the boy-martyr and make his community ever so proud that he stood up to us heathen/godless sinners ya know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who cares? We wouldn't have to listen to him anymore. Besides, I can't think of a forum rule he hasn't knowingly and wilfully violated.
Thats not what I'm asking. I'm asking you about your stance on BDSM activites.
So, lets say that a married couple (man and a woman) engage in BDSM activities, only in their sex life, not as a full time Master/slave relationship. What is your opinion on that?
In case your sheltred, BDSM is a compound acronym for:
Bondage and Discipline
Domination and Submission
Sadism and Masochism (or, Sadomasochism)
You know, whips, chains, et cetera, et cetera.
www.dictionary.com is your friend
Onestlee, eef yoor knowt goin to speel write whi bothere at hall ?
We assume that. We want you to know what you think of a particular activity that doesn't violate any ethical or moral rules that you've said you believe in, at least so far.
Thats not what I'm asking. I'm asking you about your stance on BDSM activites.
So, lets say that a married couple (man and a woman) engage in BDSM activities, only in their sex life, not as a full time Master/slave relationship. What is your opinion on that?
In case your sheltred, BDSM is a compound acronym for:
Bondage and Discipline
Domination and Submission
Sadism and Masochism (or, Sadomasochism)
You know, whips, chains, et cetera, et cetera. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I dunno, I don't think I'd be much into whips and chains and such... sexual intercourse between a man and wife is a sacred thing, not some kinky freak fest... so I'd have to vote no on that one
Thats not what I'm asking. I'm asking you about your stance on BDSM activites.
So, lets say that a married couple (man and a woman) engage in BDSM activities, only in their sex life, not as a full time Master/slave relationship. What is your opinion on that?
In case your sheltred, BDSM is a compound acronym for:
Bondage and Discipline
Domination and Submission
Sadism and Masochism (or, Sadomasochism)
You know, whips, chains, et cetera, et cetera. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I dunno, I don't think I'd be much into whips and chains and such... sexual intercourse between a man and wife is a sacred thing, not some kinky freak fest... so I'd have to vote no on that one <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So only plain vanilla missionary sex. No oral, no anal, no other positions. Does sex have to result in children, then or do you not require that?
So you deem it immoral? Interesting.
Anyway, I want to wonder something else: why is sex sacred?
Edit: Oh, and those of us with those interests don't <i>usually</i> like to be called freaks.
So you deem it immoral? Interesting.
Anyway, I want to wonder something else: why is sex sacred?
Edit: Oh, and those of us with those interests don't <i>usually</i> like to be called freaks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can answer that, because he always says the same thing:
God said so.
you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it
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I would buy into that... except that every other species that has two genders can and does have sex. Bonobos do it for reasons beyond procreation, to strengthen social bonds. Some penguins have sex in exchange for stones they need to build nests. The world isn't that magical.
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The media? Nope. I formed my opinions about sex when I was pretty young. And I formed the independtly. Unless Sesame Street has been secretly beaming me messages about how Big Bird is a ****....
you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So fun is bad, in your book? We can't do something fun when that thing can be done in a sacred way?
Then you think that sex should only be performed because of procreation, right? So, the elderly, the sterile, and people who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to marry. Condoms should be illegal.
That sounds like a pretty awesome world to live in, AvengerX.
some animals eat their children... should we do that?
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I would buy into that... except that every other species that has two genders can and does have sex. Bonobos do it for reasons beyond procreation, to strengthen social bonds. Some penguins have sex in exchange for stones they need to build nests. The world isn't that magical. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
But..But..But..penguins didn't eat the fruit of the Tree of Life!!!
some animals eat their children... should we do that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, maybe your parents should have...
Okay, that was uncalled for, but it felt good. Therefor it must be wrong, correct?
And besides, since you haven't responded to my whole baby-killing idea, maybe we should encourage people to eat their young.
you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So fun is bad, in your book? We can't do something fun when that thing can be done in a sacred way?
Then you think that sex should only be performed because of procreation, right? So, the elderly, the sterile, and people who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to marry. Condoms should be illegal.
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Sexual intercourse is ok in the Confines of a marrige outside of a marrige, its not
Why?
you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So fun is bad, in your book? We can't do something fun when that thing can be done in a sacred way?
Then you think that sex should only be performed because of procreation, right? So, the elderly, the sterile, and people who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to marry. Condoms should be illegal.
That sounds like a pretty awesome world to live in, AvengerX. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sexual intercourse is ok in the Confines of a marrige outside of a marrige, its not <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So people can have fun while they are married but not while they aren't married. People can have fun with sex if they're married, even though they aren't procreating, as long as they aren't performing acts that you deem "kinky", because sex is about procreation.
you may have been brainwashed by the media that sex is just some cheap easy way to have fun. when it is really so much more then that. its sad to see people like you cheapen it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So fun is bad, in your book? We can't do something fun when that thing can be done in a sacred way?
Then you think that sex should only be performed because of procreation, right? So, the elderly, the sterile, and people who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to marry. Condoms should be illegal.
That sounds like a pretty awesome world to live in, AvengerX. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sexual intercourse is ok in the Confines of a marrige outside of a marrige, its not <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
But taht doesn't fit with your previous line of reasoning. Previously you stated that sex was sacred because of procreation, I assume that this is also why marriage is sacred then, wouldn't that mean that people who are sterile, or who don't want to have children, shouldn't be allowed to marry as far as you are concerned?
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I would buy into that... except that every other species that has two genders can and does have sex. Bonobos do it for reasons beyond procreation, to strengthen social bonds. Some penguins have sex in exchange for stones they need to build nests. The world isn't that magical. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But..But..But..penguins didn't eat the fruit of the Tree of Life!!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, but they snacked on the biscuit of abundance!
So? It's two in the morning here, pansy.
Really? I don't see a difference in your thoughts between now and 3 hours ago.
Oh well. I bid you goodnight, AvengerX, and hope you come to your senses tomorrow.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->sexual intercourse between a man and wife is a sacred thing, not some kinky freak fest... so I'd have to vote no on [BDSM]<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't see why it's wrong. Two consenting adults, married, in love, free to express their love to one another in such forms is perfectly natural and acceptable. What you're basically saying is that even though they're married, the cannot express their love for one another in the way they choose, but instead how "God" chooses (Note: I have yet to find the passage in the Bible where it says that a man and a woman who are married can only express their love and sexual desire for one another through one course, which isn't always pleasurable for both).
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->having Anal sex does a person harm.. but you'll let them do that<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not entirely true. If you charge into the gates without opening the doors, then yes it can do damage. Though really, anal sex is only slightly more damaging than normal sex (Note: during normal sex [between a man and a woman], microscopic tears occur on both the surface of the **** and the interior vaginal walls. The same goes for anal sex; in which the tearing is only slightly worse because the anus isn't naturally lubricated).
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->if its Homosexual Marriges today... it'll be Cyborg Marriges tomorrow.. if a man can love another man and get married why can't he love a dog and get married to it? why can't he love a trashcan and hump that in the anus and marry that to?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I very much doubt this. The US won't allow humans and "Cyborgs" to wed, for the same reason they won't allow humans and animals to be wed: One party is getting married to a party that isn't definably human, therefore it's not marriage, and won't be allowed.
In conclusion: You, AvengerX, are a fool. Plain and simple. You fail to back you claims with facts. You attempt to refute the claims of others on the simple logic that you are absolutely right, and we can't question you. And, you're a hypocryte (sp?). How are you a hypocryte? Here's how:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I believe in not having sex till you get married (to the opasit gender) and then being faithfull to your spouse. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yet, you say it's not okay to express your sexual desires for your partner in the form of your choice. Tsk tsk.
Well, that's all for me. I know I'll probably get in trouble for this, but I just wanted to point out the faults in AvengerX's statements that he so convienently ignores.
Also: insomnia is bad for you, very very bad.