sheena never ceases to amaze me with her knowledge of guns and....stuff. Like Tachikomas <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Did anyone else almost make a mess of his pants at the thought of mounting the gun on that beetle or should I take myself to a psychiatrist? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> psychatrist..because the recoil would shred the beetle into pieces... THE A-TEAM WAS JUST A TV SHOW MAN! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> in the 80´s was thin sheetmetal the most bulletproof material on this planet <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-rabbity+Mar 4 2005, 12:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rabbity @ Mar 4 2005, 12:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it can be incendiary boolits too <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> gah...read my post ...here again for you both
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The gun fires a mix of both "PGU-13/B HEI High Explosive Incendiary" and "PGU-14/B API Armor Piercing Incendiary" ammunition, manufactured by 2 different companys ; Honeywell and Aerojet. The Honeywell manufactured API ammo is a little bit faster (1030 m/s) than Aerojet´s API (980 m/s) .
Muzzle velocity 980 m/s API (Aerojet) 1030 m/s API (Honeywell) 983 m/s API-PGU-14/B 1021 m/s HEI-PGU-13/B 1036 m/s TP PGU-15/B
The PGU-13/B HEI High Explosive Incendiary round employs a standard M505 fuze and explosive mixture with a body of naturally fragmenting material that is effective against lighter vehicle and material targets.
The PGU-14/B API Armor Piercing Incendiary round has a lightweight body which contains a sub-calibre high density penetrator of Depleted Uranium (DU). In addition to its penetrating capability DU is a natural pyrophoric material which enhances the incendiary effects.
The PGU-15/B TP Target Practice projectile simulates the exterior ballistics and provides a ballistic match to the HEI round and is used for pilot training. A typical combat load for the GAU-8 would include 1,100 rounds of 30mm high explosive or armor piercing ammunition.
The ammo is stored in an 1,85m long cylindrical shaped helical magazine,that is able to hold 1174 rounds,and is positioned at the end of the weapon system.The ammo itself is fed linkless,spent cases are getting transfered back into the magazine,to avoid damage on the plane.
The 30mm API is mixed with 30mm High Explosive Incendiary (HEI) at the factory and is called Combat Mix Ammunition. The ratio of API to HEI rounds in the Combat Mix is 4:1. Combat mix is a sequential mixture of DU and HEI rounds in which 1 HEI round followed by 5 DU rounds are fired by the AN/GAU-8 gatling gun, followed by one HEI round. DU is the primary munition for the A/OA-10 in a combat environment.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
oh.. found the right video... some scenes of a minigun mounted on a helicopter loaded just with tracers <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
red shiz spewing sweetnes omg!
<a href='http://yanai.blackmage.org/vidsngames/gatlinggun.wmv' target='_blank'>ONLY TRACERS! ONLY TRACERS! OMG!!</a>
and btw... <a href='http://yanai.blackmage.org/random/Miniguns.wav' target='_blank'>Sam saz</a>
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<!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Mar 3 2005, 10:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Mar 3 2005, 10:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> oh.. found the right video... some scenes of a minigun mounted on a helicopter loaded just with tracers <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
red shiz spewing sweetnes omg!
<a href='http://yanai.blackmage.org/vidsngames/gatlinggun.wmv' target='_blank'>ONLY TRACERS! ONLY TRACERS! OMG!!</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> already linked on page 1
I don't know why they bother equipping the A-10 with bombs at all. Not when you ave a cannon that can fire 4200 RPM of Depleted uranium rounds at a target. It would take less time to destroy an M1A1 with the gun, too.
Pffft, in the movie Predator Jesse Ventura had trouble using his electric powered 'handheld' minigun, and it didn't even fire real projectiles <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Plus, when they first got it on set it didn't work and their weapons specialist disassembled it into...very many parts (...where it was missing a ring for one of the barrels or something). There's a reason they're mounted on vehicles. Heck, even the video of the 'airsoft' minigun demolished a television <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> . They are awesome.
On an off topic note: the eyes in the bottom of Sheena's sig do what my eyes do all the time. That is: My left eye enjoys floating off and staring at something different than my right all the time (generally it goes to the left, not the right, though).
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<!--QuoteBegin-Testament+Mar 3 2005, 12:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ Mar 3 2005, 12:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If I see another bloody weaponry video using O Fortuna, I may or may not explode in rage and annoyance. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> soo that is what that song is named...
<!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Mar 3 2005, 02:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Mar 3 2005, 02:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->[...]This Weapons insane Average Recoil Force of 10,000 Pounds (44.5 kN) is able to slow the A10 down to Stall speed. Thats why the firing mechanism got a.... i think it was a 0.5-1 second Firing limiter..... uh... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->[...]<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Only a myth, only a myth. As I said, that's only about 55% of military thrust. ONE of the A-10's engines can output almost the same power, and the plane can fly with only one engine. Combine this with the A-10's very low stall speed, and you won't get it slowed down enough to stall as long as both engines are running on full thrust and operating flawlessly.
<!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Mar 4 2005, 06:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Mar 4 2005, 06:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Mar 3 2005, 02:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Mar 3 2005, 02:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->[...]This Weapons insane Average Recoil Force of 10,000 Pounds (44.5 kN) is able to slow the A10 down to Stall speed. Thats why the firing mechanism got a.... i think it was a 0.5-1 second Firing limiter..... uh... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->[...]<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Only a myth, only a myth. As I said, that's only about 55% of military thrust. ONE of the A-10's engines can output almost the same power, and the plane can fly with only one engine. Combine this with the A-10's very low stall speed, and you won't get it slowed down enough to stall as long as both engines are running on full thrust and operating flawlessly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> good to know... i sue the writer of this book... ive heard the a10 is still able to fly with less than 50% remaining wingspan, thats very impressive for a plane...
This video is made especially cool to me because I've seen the real thing <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->. When a gattling gun starts pouring the rounds on the enemy, the enemy gets moving, very fast.
<!--QuoteBegin-Renegade+Mar 3 2005, 07:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Mar 3 2005, 07:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This video is made especially cool to me because I've seen the real thing <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->. When a gattling gun starts pouring the rounds on the enemy, the enemy gets moving, very fast. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Lucky sonofa... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Mar 3 2005, 07:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Mar 3 2005, 07:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i have a GAU-8 video but no webspace to upload it to ;( <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> how big is the file i may be able to host it
Another clever thing about the A-10's design is the engine placement - from the ground, they're obscured by the rest of the aircraft. That makes them waaay harder to hit, and I think it also reduces the IR signature.
Of course, the whole aircraft is optimised to do one thing and one thing only - destroying tanks.
Oh, and the business about the GAU-8 slowing the aircraft to a stall is cowdung, although it certainly slows it. From an aircraft magazine I have:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"You ripple off a hundred-round burst, you feel the aircraft just shudder. There's about 12,000 lb of torque there; you rip off a good second/second and a half burst of that 30-mm, it'll take a good 5kt off your airspeed"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For sake of comparison, the A-10's top speed is around 370kt, while an F-16 is just comfortable somewhere around 450kt.
Anyway, on the subject of aircraft with huge guns: AC-130 ftw. Take a C-130 Hercules, add two 20mm Vulcan cannon, two 7.62mm machineguns, a 40mm cannon and a <i>105mm howitzer</i> and you have the AC-130H "Spectre" gunship.
Oh man, I suddenly want to see a game featuring this gun... The ammo counter would have to show how many <i>hundred</i> shots are remaining, and it would still go down fast like whoa
<!--QuoteBegin-Align+Mar 4 2005, 10:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Mar 4 2005, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh man, I suddenly want to see a game featuring this gun... The ammo counter would have to show how many <i>hundred</i> shots are remaining, and it would still go down fast like whoa <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i got an M-163 Vulcan mod for operation flashpoint, with adds realistic sound, and rate of fire to that fun..omg..
i mean... anti air canons on tanks like the zsu shilka are ...fun.. but this lil fella..
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Did anyone else almost make a mess of his pants at the thought of mounting the gun on that beetle or should I take myself to a psychiatrist?
Did anyone else almost make a mess of his pants at the thought of mounting the gun on that beetle or should I take myself to a psychiatrist? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
psychatrist..because the recoil would shred the beetle into pieces... THE A-TEAM WAS JUST A TV SHOW MAN! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> in the 80´s was thin sheetmetal the most bulletproof material on this planet <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
gah...read my post ...here again for you both
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The gun fires a mix of both "PGU-13/B HEI High Explosive Incendiary" and "PGU-14/B API Armor Piercing Incendiary" ammunition, manufactured by 2 different companys ; Honeywell and Aerojet.
The Honeywell manufactured API ammo is a little bit faster (1030 m/s) than Aerojet´s API (980 m/s) .
Muzzle velocity
980 m/s API (Aerojet)
1030 m/s API (Honeywell)
983 m/s API-PGU-14/B
1021 m/s HEI-PGU-13/B
1036 m/s TP PGU-15/B
The PGU-13/B HEI High Explosive Incendiary round employs a standard M505 fuze and explosive mixture with a body of naturally fragmenting material that is effective against lighter vehicle and material targets.
The PGU-14/B API Armor Piercing Incendiary round has a lightweight body which contains a sub-calibre high density penetrator of Depleted Uranium (DU). In addition to its penetrating capability DU is a natural pyrophoric material which enhances the incendiary effects.
The PGU-15/B TP Target Practice projectile simulates the exterior ballistics and provides a ballistic match to the HEI round and is used for pilot training.
A typical combat load for the GAU-8 would include 1,100 rounds of 30mm high explosive or armor piercing ammunition.
The ammo is stored in an 1,85m long cylindrical shaped helical magazine,that is able to hold 1174 rounds,and is positioned at the end of the weapon system.The ammo itself is fed linkless,spent cases are getting transfered back into the magazine,to avoid damage on the plane.
The 30mm API is mixed with 30mm High Explosive Incendiary (HEI) at the factory and is called Combat Mix Ammunition. The ratio of API to HEI rounds in the Combat Mix is 4:1. Combat mix is a sequential mixture of DU and HEI rounds in which 1
HEI round followed by 5 DU rounds are fired by the AN/GAU-8 gatling gun, followed by one HEI round. DU is the primary munition for the A/OA-10 in a combat environment.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
red shiz spewing sweetnes omg!
<a href='http://yanai.blackmage.org/vidsngames/gatlinggun.wmv' target='_blank'>ONLY TRACERS! ONLY TRACERS! OMG!!</a>
and btw...
<a href='http://yanai.blackmage.org/random/Miniguns.wav' target='_blank'>Sam saz</a>
red shiz spewing sweetnes omg!
<a href='http://yanai.blackmage.org/vidsngames/gatlinggun.wmv' target='_blank'>ONLY TRACERS! ONLY TRACERS! OMG!!</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
already linked on page 1
n00b
EDIT: most certainly is NOT only tracer rounds btw.
Rawr.
I don't know why they bother equipping the A-10 with bombs at all. Not when you ave a cannon that can fire 4200 RPM of Depleted uranium rounds at a target. It would take less time to destroy an M1A1 with the gun, too.
On an off topic note: the eyes in the bottom of Sheena's sig do what my eyes do all the time. That is: My left eye enjoys floating off and staring at something different than my right all the time (generally it goes to the left, not the right, though).
soo that is what that song is named...
slow the A10 down to Stall speed. Thats why the firing mechanism got a.... i think it was a 0.5-1 second Firing limiter..... uh... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->[...]<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Only a myth, only a myth. As I said, that's only about 55% of military thrust. ONE of the A-10's engines can output almost the same power, and the plane can fly with only one engine. Combine this with the A-10's very low stall speed, and you won't get it slowed down enough to stall as long as both engines are running on full thrust and operating flawlessly.
slow the A10 down to Stall speed. Thats why the firing mechanism got a.... i think it was a 0.5-1 second Firing limiter..... uh... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->[...]<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Only a myth, only a myth. As I said, that's only about 55% of military thrust. ONE of the A-10's engines can output almost the same power, and the plane can fly with only one engine. Combine this with the A-10's very low stall speed, and you won't get it slowed down enough to stall as long as both engines are running on full thrust and operating flawlessly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
good to know...
i sue the writer of this book...
ive heard the a10 is still able to fly with less than 50% remaining wingspan, thats very impressive for a plane...
Indeed, it is <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Mommy, can I have a minigun for Christmas?
Lucky sonofa... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
:D ?
this one p0wnz them all!!!
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
how big is the file i may be able to host it
Of course, the whole aircraft is optimised to do one thing and one thing only - destroying tanks.
Oh, and the business about the GAU-8 slowing the aircraft to a stall is cowdung, although it certainly slows it. From an aircraft magazine I have:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"You ripple off a hundred-round burst, you feel the aircraft just shudder. There's about 12,000 lb of torque there; you rip off a good second/second and a half burst of that 30-mm, it'll take a good 5kt off your airspeed"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For sake of comparison, the A-10's top speed is around 370kt, while an F-16 is just comfortable somewhere around 450kt.
Anyway, on the subject of aircraft with huge guns: AC-130 ftw. Take a C-130 Hercules, add two 20mm Vulcan cannon, two 7.62mm machineguns, a 40mm cannon and a <i>105mm howitzer</i> and you have the AC-130H "Spectre" gunship.
i got an M-163 Vulcan mod for operation flashpoint, with adds realistic sound, and rate of fire to that fun..omg..
i mean... anti air canons on tanks like the zsu shilka are ...fun.. but this lil fella..
hehehe even fun against ground targets