W00T OM*G TAHTS WILL BE THE REVIVAL OF NS GAMES AGAIN!!
MAN i thought NS games were going to die, but this version is gonna rock <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> !
Finally, it's getting back towhere it was. I bet there was constant swinging of the upper hand between the teams....
I remembered my first game where it lasted for about an hour. Now THAT was the NS I remembered. I'd like to see those days again, and it seems like this version just might be it.
If it isn't.....crap <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The End End Games ( the final assault base )now are faster with 3 hives, because FAdes with Acid Rockets, can own all. Maybe, the sens are the blame. Think: Aliens Build sens first,( 70 or 80% games ) rines are scared, no 9283 alone rambos every corridor, more group of people together. But Aliens dont have dcs, then Fades are less powerfull. This make ( sometimes) that aliens wait until 2 hive to have fades an Onos, but again, they dont have Mcs. No celerity for Onos and no Adren for fades. They have more carefull, less Rush = More slow figts and every Alien have his eye in his adren bar. And if rines have 1 hive or a reloc in the las hive, that make a epic battle that all people want.
Pd: maybe this is a reason maybe not, but that is true.
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It actually seems to me that the amount of people building SCs, MCs, and DCs are evening out. Yesterday I played 2 DC first games, 3 MC first games and 3 SC first games (yes, I like to keep track). Seems pretty balanced out there.
The endgame does go slightly faster. However, endgame on NS_eon is great for marines....it's great fun.
Yes, the games are seeming to get longer (unless skill stacked).
Sc is suefull for 1 chamber, because no time for motion and for Armor 1, but how 2 or 3 is more ****. With MT or armor upgrades isnt than great And yes, i see less games start with scs, but always more than Dc or MC first. And in Pubs Sc will be a Solid option for first chamber i think.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Sky+Feb 14 2005, 07:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sky @ Feb 14 2005, 07:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> sc > mt. Plain and simple. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Sadly. I'd like to see Celerity get a big upgrade.
i remember in 1.03 playing game after game eating up the whole night so quick, quicker than any game i'd ever played, yet so exhilarating and fulfilling
i wish i could describe it better, i'm suffering from severe sleep deprivation atm
<!--QuoteBegin-The+Feb 14 2005, 05:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The @ Feb 14 2005, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And in Pubs Sc will be a Solid option for first chamber i think. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Lies!
<i>I doubt this to the very end. The VERY end.</i>
At the beginning of B3 all people start with Sens, i remember, but now only a little games start with this. But i see some Sc first chambers games today. ANd with the new Re-Launch of Sensorys i think that will be one of the more ussual first chamber for a long time
From our data, it does not seem as though we'll see lots of 60-minutes-games once the hivebug is resolved (we believe we nailed it, by the way), but experience with earlier versions and scheduled games indicates that we'll likely see a somewhat longer average classic game due to the fact that the alien early-game-buffs lead to a certain amount of shuffling up to the two-hive-period. The big issue here is that the often discussed 'epic' games suit some, but not all playing styles - particularily competitive play, where you should be able to play two matches in a row, sets a few restrictions in that regard, which leaves us with the task of the creation of a sensible balance in yet another field (and don't even start about seperated competitive gameplay, we won't segregate our community in this fundamental a manner). My thesis is that the important factor is not so much the actual gamelength, but the amount of time up to the decisive point: Games that last sixty minutes, but have been decided around minute five will be boring, while a thirty-minutes-game that was open until five minutes before its end will be ultimately more rewarding. We're working on it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Firewater+Feb 15 2005, 08:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Firewater @ Feb 15 2005, 08:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> from my understanding, Flayra wanted game times to be about 20 mins, this however could have changed. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, that was the aim of 2.0. A little time has passed since then <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Wow, Firewater, I know there's a whole nostalgia thing at the moment, but get with the times <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Nice to know that NS should be catering for everyone, short-gamers and long-gamers, can't wait to get playing this version.
should've spent time on making ns source or sumthing - all that is mainly new is the gameplay and some map changes pffftt <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> all could've been done in source! gimme source now plz
<!--QuoteBegin-The+Feb 14 2005, 07:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The @ Feb 14 2005, 07:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The End End Games ( the final assault base )now are faster with 3 hives, because FAdes with Acid Rockets, can own all. Maybe, the sens are the blame. Think: Aliens Build sens first,( 70 or 80% games ) rines are scared, no 9283 alone rambos every corridor, more group of people together. But Aliens dont have dcs, then Fades are less powerfull. This make ( sometimes) that aliens wait until 2 hive to have fades an Onos, but again, they dont have Mcs. No celerity for Onos and no Adren for fades. They have more carefull, less Rush = More slow figts and every Alien have his eye in his adren bar. And if rines have 1 hive or a reloc in the las hive, that make a epic battle that all people want.
Pd: maybe this is a reason maybe not, but that is true. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That made less than no sense.
<!--QuoteBegin-dhakbar+Feb 15 2005, 02:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dhakbar @ Feb 15 2005, 02:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-The+Feb 14 2005, 07:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The @ Feb 14 2005, 07:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The End End Games ( the final assault base )now are faster with 3 hives, because FAdes with Acid Rockets, can own all. Maybe, the sens are the blame. Think: Aliens Build sens first,( 70 or 80% games ) rines are scared, no 9283 alone rambos every corridor, more group of people together. But Aliens dont have dcs, then Fades are less powerfull. This make ( sometimes) that aliens wait until 2 hive to have fades an Onos, but again, they dont have Mcs. No celerity for Onos and no Adren for fades. They have more carefull, less Rush = More slow figts and every Alien have his eye in his adren bar. And if rines have 1 hive or a reloc in the las hive, that make a epic battle that all people want.
Pd: maybe this is a reason maybe not, but that is true. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That made less than no sense. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It made sense to me. Getting sensory forces marines to be cautious because skulks are a bigger threat, so they don't advance as quickly through the map. However, sensory upgrades aren't nearly as helpful for higher lifeforms as movement or defense, so aliens can't be as agressive later on in the game. Both teams are slowed down, making the game longer. That is what The is saying, at least.
<!--QuoteBegin-bobsmob+Feb 15 2005, 05:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (bobsmob @ Feb 15 2005, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> should've spent time on making ns source or sumthing - all that is mainly new is the gameplay and some map changes pffftt <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> all could've been done in source! gimme source now plz <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> uH.... BTW they haven't realeased the full version of the SDK, so yha... thats why thier not working on it..
I think the reasion why there are longer games is mainly because of a little more balance, the combination of not being able to put up the 3rd hive sometimes, and everyone being a constie so they kinda know how to play the game properly, and everyone is trying allowing for more comebacks
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good one.
MAN i thought NS games were going to die, but this version is gonna rock <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> !
I remembered my first game where it lasted for about an hour. Now THAT was the NS I remembered. I'd like to see those days again, and it seems like this version just might be it.
If it isn't.....crap <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Maybe, the sens are the blame.
Think: Aliens Build sens first,( 70 or 80% games ) rines are scared, no 9283 alone rambos every corridor, more group of people together. But Aliens dont have dcs, then Fades are less powerfull.
This make ( sometimes) that aliens wait until 2 hive to have fades an Onos, but again, they dont have Mcs. No celerity for Onos and no Adren for fades. They have more carefull, less Rush = More slow figts and every Alien have his eye in his adren bar. And if rines have 1 hive or a reloc in the las hive, that make a epic battle that all people want.
Pd: maybe this is a reason maybe not, but that is true.
The endgame does go slightly faster. However, endgame on NS_eon is great for marines....it's great fun.
Yes, the games are seeming to get longer (unless skill stacked).
And yes, i see less games start with scs, but always more than Dc or MC first.
And in Pubs Sc will be a Solid option for first chamber i think.
Sadly. I'd like to see Celerity get a big upgrade.
Sadly. I'd like to see Celerity get a big upgrade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
:S
celerity FTW
i wish i could describe it better, i'm suffering from severe sleep deprivation atm
Lies!
<i>I doubt this to the very end. The VERY end.</i>
But i see some Sc first chambers games today. ANd with the new Re-Launch of Sensorys i think that will be one of the more ussual first chamber for a long time
The big issue here is that the often discussed 'epic' games suit some, but not all playing styles - particularily competitive play, where you should be able to play two matches in a row, sets a few restrictions in that regard, which leaves us with the task of the creation of a sensible balance in yet another field (and don't even start about seperated competitive gameplay, we won't segregate our community in this fundamental a manner). My thesis is that the important factor is not so much the actual gamelength, but the amount of time up to the decisive point: Games that last sixty minutes, but have been decided around minute five will be boring, while a thirty-minutes-game that was open until five minutes before its end will be ultimately more rewarding. We're working on it.
Yes, that was the aim of 2.0. A little time has passed since then <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Nice to know that NS should be catering for everyone, short-gamers and long-gamers, can't wait to get playing this version.
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Maybe, the sens are the blame.
Think: Aliens Build sens first,( 70 or 80% games ) rines are scared, no 9283 alone rambos every corridor, more group of people together. But Aliens dont have dcs, then Fades are less powerfull.
This make ( sometimes) that aliens wait until 2 hive to have fades an Onos, but again, they dont have Mcs. No celerity for Onos and no Adren for fades. They have more carefull, less Rush = More slow figts and every Alien have his eye in his adren bar. And if rines have 1 hive or a reloc in the las hive, that make a epic battle that all people want.
Pd: maybe this is a reason maybe not, but that is true. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That made less than no sense.
Maybe, the sens are the blame.
Think: Aliens Build sens first,( 70 or 80% games ) rines are scared, no 9283 alone rambos every corridor, more group of people together. But Aliens dont have dcs, then Fades are less powerfull.
This make ( sometimes) that aliens wait until 2 hive to have fades an Onos, but again, they dont have Mcs. No celerity for Onos and no Adren for fades. They have more carefull, less Rush = More slow figts and every Alien have his eye in his adren bar. And if rines have 1 hive or a reloc in the las hive, that make a epic battle that all people want.
Pd: maybe this is a reason maybe not, but that is true. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That made less than no sense. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It made sense to me. Getting sensory forces marines to be cautious because skulks are a bigger threat, so they don't advance as quickly through the map. However, sensory upgrades aren't nearly as helpful for higher lifeforms as movement or defense, so aliens can't be as agressive later on in the game. Both teams are slowed down, making the game longer. That is what The is saying, at least.
uH.... BTW they haven't realeased the full version of the SDK, so yha... thats why thier not working on it..
I think the reasion why there are longer games is mainly because of a little more balance, the combination of not being able to put up the 3rd hive sometimes, and everyone being a constie so they kinda know how to play the game properly, and everyone is trying allowing for more comebacks
really.