Kotor2 Pc Shipped!

DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">yes yes yes yes yes :D</div><!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords for the PC has officially shipped and will slash its way into stores on February 10, 2005. The highly anticipated next chapter successfully launched December 6, 2004 on Xbox.

The Sith Lords picks up five years after the events of the original KOTOR and features an all-new perilous storyline, as well as new characters, classes, locations and force powers.

The PC version features high-resolution textures, optimized screen resolutions and a variety of other graphic card enhancements.

The Sith Lords is published by LucasArts and developed by Obsidian Entertainment Inc. For more information, please visit the official product website at: www.kotor2.com

This time your choices affect everyone around you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

woot! :D
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  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    its about time! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AnarkiThreeXSixAnarkiThreeXSix x_x Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24894Members
    Hooray! the dark side awaits!
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Damn, I have no money ATM.
    Anger is rising, the dark side takes over controll. It is done.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    Shame KOTOR 1 is better. KOTOR 2 is still a good game, but it's just not as good.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    edited February 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Feb 8 2005, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Feb 8 2005, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Shame KOTOR 1 is better. KOTOR 2 is still a good game, but it's just not as good. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, the reason either seems so good is because before KOTOR 2, the most recent good offline RPG made was KOTOR 1, and before <i>that</i> we haven't had anything good since Planescape: Torment or both Fallouts. Nothing. Nothing good at all.*


    *If you feel that this is a near-offensive statement of generalization or ignorance, it is. I'm trying to draw out people who can argue to the contrary, because I'm actively looking for a new rpg to play. If I've missed out on something good, let me know immediately. I'm a fan of Deus Ex and Vampire Bloodlines and all, but lately I've been feeling this intense <i>need</i> for the same sort of amazing RPG experience I felt when playing PS:T or the Fallout games. I even tried Baldur's Gate II, which I'd been told was good. It was pretty good, but...it wasn't a Fallout or Torment. <insert fake dramatic sobbing and attention-getting frowny face> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I'm sorry, but KOTOR 2 > KOTOR 1. I *hated* KOTOR 1. It wasn't fun, the story was overly generic/crapola, and thats saying something. KOTOR2 though held my attention, and told a story that wasn't your usual- not to mention had very unique characters compared to most stories in general(Kreia = biznatch. Unique, but a biznatch.)
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Marik Steele+Feb 8 2005, 11:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik Steele @ Feb 8 2005, 11:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Feb 8 2005, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Feb 8 2005, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Shame KOTOR 1 is better. KOTOR 2 is still a good game, but it's just not as good. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, the reason either seems so good is because before KOTOR 2, the most recent good offline RPG made was KOTOR 1, and before <i>that</i> we haven't had anything good since Planescape: Torment or both Fallouts. Nothing. Nothing good at all.*


    *If you feel that this is a near-offensive statement of generalization or ignorance, it is. I'm trying to draw out people who can argue to the contrary, because I'm actively looking for a new rpg to play. If I've missed out on something good, let me know immediately. I'm a fan of Deus Ex and Vampire Bloodlines and all, but lately I've been feeling this intense <i>need</i> for the same sort of amazing RPG experience I felt when playing PS:T or the Fallout games. I even tried Baldur's Gate II, which I'd been told was good. It was pretty good, but...it wasn't a Fallout or Torment. <insert fake dramatic sobbing and attention-getting frowny face> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have to agree. KOTOR is one of my favourite games, probably my favourite RPG that i've ever played. KOTOR 2 is good, i have to admit, especially being a SW fanboy, it gave me a SW game i could really be pleased with in every aspect, but i felt it was more of an expansion pack rather than an entirely new game. The story does continue on, but is a little more confusing and leaves you wanted a KOTOR 3 to fill the voids the first two left.

    The graphics are essentially the same, the locations aren't as exotic, but it's still a very solid RPG game and worth the money, dispite it's shortcomings following up KOTOR.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    edited February 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-DrunkenBozo+Feb 8 2005, 06:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrunkenBozo @ Feb 8 2005, 06:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dude! Morrowind! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tried it. The fact that I went plugin-happy and probably threw game balance out the window in the process doesn't help, so I've since put all my thoughts about the combat system and plot aside. I'll admit it was addictive for the weekend or so I tried it -- but that's just because it was about as close as one can get to an MMORPG without an internet connection. I just felt a lack of interaction with believable NPCs; I read a recent <a href='http://www.duckandcover.cx/content.php?id=66' target='_blank'>interview</a> with someone from the Bethesda team on things they'll do better when they make Fallout 3, and the accompanying editorial called Morrowind's NPC's "dialogue vending machines." I agree with it wholeheartedly, and hope they do better when they make Fallout 3.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Woot. Now to find some way to buy it without going to a store or something, since that's too much trouble. And I don't want to wait for it to be shipped to me.

    I truly wish Steam was industry standard. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    I can't wait to get my grubby paws on it. too bad i have a chem midterm on saturday. I think i'll have to wait till sunday to get it.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Marik Steele+Feb 8 2005, 11:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik Steele @ Feb 8 2005, 11:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DrunkenBozo+Feb 8 2005, 06:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrunkenBozo @ Feb 8 2005, 06:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dude! Morrowind! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tried it. The fact that I went plugin-happy and probably threw game balance out the window in the process doesn't help, so I've since put all my thoughts about the combat system and plot aside. I'll admit it was addictive for the weekend or so I tried it -- but that's just because it was about as close as one can get to an MMORPG without an internet connection. I just felt a lack of interaction with believable NPCs; I read a recent <a href='http://www.duckandcover.cx/content.php?id=66' target='_blank'>interview</a> with someone from the Bethesda team on things they'll do better when they make Fallout 3, and the accompanying editorial called Morrowind's NPC's "dialogue vending machines." I agree with it wholeheartedly, and hope they do better when they make Fallout 3. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You should definately look out for Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion then. Other than the obvious visual update they're making, they're entirely reworking the combat system to be less... crap, and giving each and every NPC a purpose, unique dialogue, a daily routine, and interaction with each other, add on top of that Morrowind's freeform gameplay, huge game world and totally non-linear story, and Bethesda are definately onto what will be this (or next) year's finest single player RPG.
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    You'd assume that KOTOR2 PC's extra time in development would have helped them eliminate bugs. You'd assume wrong.
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    Any word on whether or not Obsidian/Bioware re-worked the renderer so it doesn't break on ATI cards? KOTOR1 was totally messed up on my 9500pro, especially in outdoor areas.

    If no, I can always swap the Geforce3 back in (not like I'll be playing anything else for a while, heh) but I'd rather not have to bother.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Surge+Feb 8 2005, 11:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Surge @ Feb 8 2005, 11:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You'd assume that KOTOR2 PC's extra time in development would have helped them eliminate bugs. You'd assume wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To be honest, i played it on Xbox, so i hadn't had a single bug at all.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DrunkenBozo+Feb 8 2005, 06:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrunkenBozo @ Feb 8 2005, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Any word on whether or not Obsidian/Bioware re-worked the renderer so it doesn't break on ATI cards? KOTOR1 was totally messed up on my 9500pro, especially in outdoor areas.

    If no, I can always swap the Geforce3 back in (not like I'll be playing anything else for a while, heh) but I'd rather not have to bother. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If by "messed up" you mean it would flat-out crash, that was a problem on ATi's side of the fence, which they've since fixed in newer Catalyst drivers.
    If by "messed up" you mean graphical oddities, I haven't ever read of such problems with ATI cards in KOTOR 1, but if it was happening to you, it may also have been fixed with newer catalyst drivers.
  • DefianceDefiance Join Date: 2003-12-01 Member: 23847Members
    Ya, this game looks pretty badass. I have money right now, but I'm about 20$ short of being able to buy it xD
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Seeing this thread made me realize I haven't played the first game, even though I own it. I'm reinstalling it - does anyone have a hint for a KotOR nubcake?
  • The_ThingThe_Thing Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13993Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Feb 8 2005, 07:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Feb 8 2005, 07:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Seeing this thread made me realize I haven't played the first game, even though I own it. I'm reinstalling it - does anyone have a hint for a KotOR nubcake? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dont let anyone ruin the story for you, because it is incredible.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-The Thing+Feb 8 2005, 06:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The Thing @ Feb 8 2005, 06:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Feb 8 2005, 07:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Feb 8 2005, 07:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Seeing this thread made me realize I haven't played the first game, even though I own it. I'm reinstalling it - does anyone have a hint for a KotOR nubcake? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dont let anyone ruin the story for you, because it is incredible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    o ill ruin it! your realy bastillas transvestite sister that travels to the future to have a affair with darth vadar! DUN DUN DUNNNNNN
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Feb 8 2005, 07:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Feb 8 2005, 07:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Seeing this thread made me realize I haven't played the first game, even though I own it. I'm reinstalling it - does anyone have a hint for a KotOR nubcake? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Here's a generic hint that'll help you enjoy the KOTOR 1 a lot more:

    Ending the game as a sinless goody-two-shoes or completely heartless evil wretch is still easily possible if you do things more typical of the opposing side on an infrequent basis. Being on the absolute extremes to either side doesn't even change the ending cutscenes from being a "mostly" good or evil Jedi. So feel free to do something different once in awhile if you think it'll be fun.
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Marik Steele+Feb 8 2005, 08:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik Steele @ Feb 8 2005, 08:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DrunkenBozo+Feb 8 2005, 06:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrunkenBozo @ Feb 8 2005, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Any word on whether or not Obsidian/Bioware re-worked the renderer so it doesn't break on ATI cards? KOTOR1 was totally messed up on my 9500pro, especially in outdoor areas.

    If no, I can always swap the Geforce3 back in (not like I'll be playing anything else for a while, heh) but I'd rather not have to bother. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If by "messed up" you mean it would flat-out crash, that was a problem on ATi's side of the fence, which they've since fixed in newer Catalyst drivers.
    If by "messed up" you mean graphical oddities, I haven't ever read of such problems with ATI cards in KOTOR 1, but if it was happening to you, it may also have been fixed with newer catalyst drivers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually what I mean is a severe FPS drop.

    I eventually fixed it by dropping down to some pretty old drivers (the ones from around KOTOR1's release), which I found out about by googling 'kotor radeon'. But since those old drivers severely hamper performance in <b>other</b> games, I was hoping Bioware/Obsidian had made it so I wouldn't have to.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    My <b>only </b>two questions for those of you playing KOTOR2. Can I finally play Dark Side without it meaning 'Stupid olololo attack everything'? That grated rather quickly when I wanted to be smart & evil.

    Second, can I still break the game? If you make a point of being gray, all the way through, you can commit to the Dark Side ending yet get the Light Side endgame sequence. The fact that was even possible annoyed me no end.

    - Shockwave
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DrunkenBozo+Feb 9 2005, 06:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrunkenBozo @ Feb 9 2005, 06:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Marik Steele+Feb 8 2005, 08:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik Steele @ Feb 8 2005, 08:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DrunkenBozo+Feb 8 2005, 06:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrunkenBozo @ Feb 8 2005, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Any word on whether or not Obsidian/Bioware re-worked the renderer so it doesn't break on ATI cards? KOTOR1 was totally messed up on my 9500pro, especially in outdoor areas.

    If no, I can always swap the Geforce3 back in (not like I'll be playing anything else for a while, heh) but I'd rather not have to bother. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If by "messed up" you mean it would flat-out crash, that was a problem on ATi's side of the fence, which they've since fixed in newer Catalyst drivers.
    If by "messed up" you mean graphical oddities, I haven't ever read of such problems with ATI cards in KOTOR 1, but if it was happening to you, it may also have been fixed with newer catalyst drivers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually what I mean is a severe FPS drop.

    I eventually fixed it by dropping down to some pretty old drivers (the ones from around KOTOR1's release), which I found out about by googling 'kotor radeon'. But since those old drivers severely hamper performance in <b>other</b> games, I was hoping Bioware/Obsidian had made it so I wouldn't have to. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Severe FPS drop on the Dantooine fields? Yeah, that was ATi's fault.
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    Dig around on the forums on the KOTOR site, there is a fix for ati owners somewhere there and its as simple as copying over a .dll

    It fixed all the problems I had with the first KOTOR.
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    Of course, using that fix means you have to keep turning AA back on, because the atioglxx.dll that you stuck in the kotor folder isn't controlled by the display control panel. And KOTOR really looks like **** with AA off.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DrunkenBozo+Feb 9 2005, 01:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrunkenBozo @ Feb 9 2005, 01:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Of course, using that fix means you have to keep turning AA back on, because the atioglxx.dll that you stuck in the kotor folder isn't controlled by the display control panel. And KOTOR really looks like **** with AA off. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah be lucky you can even run it with any AA at all punk. Some of us are happy if we get 2x anisotropic filtering.
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    I still can't even beat KOTOR1. Friggn xbox always freezes at the same part on the same level. Arg.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    edited February 2005
    I played KotOR 1 and I simply loved it.

    The story was very good in my opinion, it had some not so unique aspects to the story but then again very few things do.

    I did many if not all of the little side quests and man I loved making my character flourish into such a great guy lol.

    I dont think you could have gotten the "blue meter" up any higher lol.

    The story and deeds of Davis shall live on in the history of the republic and the jedi for a long time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    I cant wait for KotOR to be on my PC heehee.
  • FacTorFacTor Wyoming, MI Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10916Members
    KotOR 2.... Funny how this topic comes up, I just started a new game on xbox, going for my 6th time through.

    Quite a different system on Light/Dark side... referred to as "influence"

    And the game works with things called "Prestige classes" Meaning once you reach about 15, concerning your alignment, you will be one of 3 classes for either Dark or Light.

    Was not a spoiler, just warning you, that you cant quite revert from side to side, once the time comes, your stuck there.

    And most of all, pay attention to some conversations...as it sets up the game in some areas according to your choices.
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